Just ordered the Brasse fairing kit - Page 2

beniblanco · May 16th, 2014, 02:28 PM

Hey its your money but I would say that their response is full blown BS on being overwhelmed on orders and didn't expect to be busy. If that was the case why are you hearing it now and shouldn't you have some priority. They said that they were willing to work with you on customizing it a bit here and there but that seems very misleading to me.

NinjaZX6R123 · May 16th, 2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by beniblanco

Hey its your money but I would say that their response is full blown BS on being overwhelmed on orders and didn't expect to be busy. If that was the case why are you hearing it now and shouldn't you have some priority. They said that they were willing to work with you on customizing it a bit here and there but that seems very misleading to me.

I agree but what can I do besides asking for a refund? I'm giving him time and hopefully it'll come out clean. Don't want to rush and have him screw up something. Only reason why I can wait is because I'm still waiting on other parts to arrive as well.

Klondike1020 · May 16th, 2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R123

LMAO! It'll be all black. Yeah, the brake caliper and forks sticks out a bit. They sell brake caliper covers, but for now I'll just leave it. Definitely will upload a picture of me on it once done.

Caliper cvers , heck spray bon them turkeys
make em red of gold lol
give the bike a tiny bit of contrast . mr stealth fighter robot warrior.

Gee wizzz you are going scare the children!

NinjaZX6R123 · May 22nd, 2014, 01:11 PM

I spoke with Josh Brasse and I don't doubt he's been very busy with his business. He's an inventor and has several other products he sales besides bike kits. So anyways, the delay is cause he's busy + I had him do some custom mods to the kit. He said it'll be shipped by next week.

It's not good business to take this long, however he's very responsive to my questions and sounds like a great guy so I don't mind the extra wait.

NinjaZX6R123 · June 2nd, 2014, 12:54 PM

Update: Spoke to Josh Brasse and he admits they are behind on production. He offered to send me their floor display kit (which I opted out on because I rather not be an a-hole and take away from any sells) and a discount for the delay. I'm thinking another 2 weeks until I get my 31BLK kit. I wonder who's ordering this kit? Doubt much from the West, most likely East countries since they're restricted to 250cc.

Anyways, while I wait I had time to install 3" wheels and 120 front tires as well as fender. Will install 4.5" wheels and 150 tires to the back plus tire hugger this week.

Aggrotech · June 2nd, 2014, 01:01 PM

I want that fender D:

subxero · June 2nd, 2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R123

Update: Spoke to Josh Brasse and he admits they are behind on production. He offered to send me their floor display kit (which I opted out on because I rather not be an a-hole and take away from any sells) and a discount for the delay. I'm thinking another 2 weeks until I get my 31BLK kit. I wonder who's ordering this kit? Doubt much from the West, most likely East countries since they're restricted to 250cc.

Be careful, being patient and more than reasonable can put you in position for people to take advantage of you and you get ef'ed in the end.

Last time i put decent cash down on something and the builder kept putting out excuses i sounded a lot like you. "don't want to bother them any more", "i understand they are busy" "oh they just moved shops so they are behind, i can wait" blah blah blah HORSE ****!! Cock suckers filed chapter 7 bankruptcy and i was out $2500 nothing i could do about it but kiss it good bye. Should have asked for a refund after things went over time by several months and if they refused sued their @sses. Live and learn

NinjaZX6R123 · June 2nd, 2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aggrotech

I want that fender D:

You'd probably want the tire hugger too once since it matches the fender.

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Originally Posted by subxero

Be careful, being patient and more than reasonable can put you in position for people to take advantage of you and you get ef'ed in the end.

Last time i put decent cash down on something and the builder kept putting out excuses i sounded a lot like you. "don't want to bother them any more", "i understand they are busy" "oh they just moved shops so they are behind, i can wait" blah blah blah HORSE ****!! Cock suckers filed chapter 7 bankruptcy and i was out $2500 nothing i could do about it but kiss it good bye. Should have asked for a refund after things went over time by several months and if they refused sued their @sses. Live and learn

Doh. Thanks for the warning. My max wait time with them is 2 weeks. I'll ask for their floor plan kit if they're not done by then or demand a refund. The simple mods I had them do shouldn't take 2 months. If I had the tools it would've taken me less than a week.

JosueDG · June 3rd, 2014, 02:46 PM

You are a very patient person. I would have asked for a refund the day after the original due date.

BTW, I am already impatient waiting for the pictures of your project

NinjaZX6R123 · June 3rd, 2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JosueDG

You are a very patient person. I would have asked for a refund the day after the original due date.

BTW, I am already impatient waiting for the pictures of your project

LOL Trust me I'm impatient waiting to work on the project but there isn't a kit out there that remotely looks like the 31BLK kit. Definitely will upload pictures once I'm done.

NinjaZX6R123 · June 5th, 2014, 10:53 AM

Update: So I had time today and installed the 4.5" rear wheel along with 150/60/17 tire as well as the tire hugger. Love the look of the bigger tire than the stock ones.

The 31BLK kit by Josh Brasse has yet to be shipped. I'm thinking he probably has some supplier issues or just unprepared to cater in this sector since he can't give me an exact ETA. Good thing I bought it using my credit card and not Paypal. I can go back and dispute the charge if I never get the kit.

EternalNewb · June 5th, 2014, 02:31 PM

Had a chance to ride it around with the new wheels yet? How has it impacted your ride?

NinjaZX6R123 · June 5th, 2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EternalNewb

Had a chance to ride it around with the new wheels yet? How has it impacted your ride?

Yes. No negative impact as far as I can tell. Positive is that I have more confidence in the corners due to more road contact. Plus, they're not stock tires so it doesn't feel like I'm riding on a block of wood.

verboten1 · June 5th, 2014, 06:46 PM

FYI: My credit card has a 60 day dispute window...

NinjaZX6R123 · June 5th, 2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by verboten1

FYI: My credit card has a 60 day dispute window...

Thanks. I'll have to check my cc.

Hero Danny · June 7th, 2014, 01:21 PM

I hope you don't get screwed over.. It seems pretty shady to me that he's taking forever! It's a shame because I really want to see you get this kit up and running!

NinjaZX6R123 · June 7th, 2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I hope you don't get screwed over.. It seems pretty shady to me that he's taking forever! It's a shame because I really want to see you get this kit up and running!

I highly doubt I'll get screwed over since he has other business ventures. Also, he's very responsive to my emails and seems like a stand up guy. Usually scammers ignore you after they get the money. I ordered the kit when it was released so personally, I think he's just over his head. He needs to get his production time fixed or he'll have a lot of angry customers in the future.

I'll definitely update everyone with pictures and video once I'm done.

Baron · June 9th, 2014, 03:11 PM

Love how it's coming along!
You're going to make every head everywhere turn around once it's done.

BTW I went to Japan.webikes.net to find the fender + tire huger combo you got but I can't find it, mind telling me which ones you got?

Tell me!!! Tell me!!!

NinjaZX6R123 · June 9th, 2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron

Love how it's coming along!
You're going to make every head everywhere turn around once it's done.

BTW I went to Japan.webikes.net to find the fender + tire huger combo you got but I can't find it, mind telling me which ones you got?

Tell me!!! Tell me!!!

Thanks. Definitely not cheap but it looks killer and easy to install.

Front: http://japan.webike.net/products/1964958.html

Rear: http://japan.webike.net/products/1964960.html

Baron · June 9th, 2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R123

Thanks. Definitely not cheap but it looks killer and easy to install.

Front: http://japan.webike.net/products/1964958.html

Rear: http://japan.webike.net/products/1964960.html

Brilliant. This website is a gold mine(costs that much too

)
I got over the whole go-for-the-cheap-one-for-now thing simply because you get what you pay for, as simple as that. I'll go for one when I am done with the basics and have enough confidence to ride around without second guessing myself. xD

subxero · June 10th, 2014, 06:43 AM

more pics, pics that show whole bike to put tires in perspective would be nice.

LittleRedNinjette · June 10th, 2014, 09:31 AM

Looks awesome to me!

Makes it look like a Transformer.

NinjaZX6R123 · June 10th, 2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by subxero

more pics, pics that show whole bike to put tires in perspective would be nice.

I'll take pics of the bike when I get home. The kit hasn't arrived yet but I took off the stock fairings.

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Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Looks awesome to me!

Makes it look like a Transformer.

Thanks. Funny you say that because my helmet for the 636 has the Autobot insignia. For the 250 I'll leave it all black and will get the Batman backpack from UD Replicas (over priced though and barely fits anything) so I can take my lunch to work. It's mostly for the looks.

Batman Backpack (for $300 I haven't decided if I should get it or not. lol)

Update on 31BLK kit: He emailed me saying it'll take a few more days. I asked him to change the front for me. To make it mounted 180 degrees which will give it a more aggressive look. He said that'll take longer. I told him I've been waiting for 2 months. Longer isn't an issue at this point. *sighs*

LittleRedNinjette · June 10th, 2014, 12:32 PM

As cool as it looks i would have a problem spending so much on a backpack..

Like the helmet though!

cbinker · June 10th, 2014, 01:57 PM

so how does that work with chain and sprockets? going with a bigger wheel, wouldnt that change the angle of alignment?

NinjaZX6R123 · June 10th, 2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

so how does that work with chain and sprockets? going with a bigger wheel, wouldnt that change the angle of alignment?

Nopes. It's pretty much plug'n play. There's a separate thread regarding that.
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71108

MrSavvy · June 10th, 2014, 04:26 PM

I like how firm and tight it is.

The backpack.

NinjaZX6R123 · June 10th, 2014, 04:47 PM

This is how it stands as of now. Still waiting on the kit and also will do a few other mods once I'm done with the kit. Definitely relocating the rear oil reservoir under the seat. The rear fender will be chopped off exposing the back wheel more.

NinjaZX6R123 · June 10th, 2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSavvy

I like how firm and tight it is.

The backpack.

LOL I see what you did there.

I was thinking the same thing.

cbinker · June 10th, 2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R123

Nopes. It's pretty much plug'n play. There's a separate thread regarding that.
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71108

i would still keep an eye on how the chain wears.

NinjaZX6R123 · June 10th, 2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

i would still keep an eye on how the chain wears.

True. Once I'm done I'll ride it a lot more and will keep an eye on that. So far I've put about 100 miles on it to test, and everything is good.

cbinker · June 10th, 2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R123

True. Once I'm done I'll ride it a lot more and will keep an eye on that. So far I've put about 100 miles on it to test, and everything is good.

The main thing is the front sprocket is lined up with a rim width of 3.5 inches, now you have 4.5 inches. So that is a half inch potential where the rear sprocket is outside the line with the front sprocket.

Baron · June 10th, 2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSavvy

I like how firm and tight it is.

The backpack.

My thoughts exactly.

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Originally Posted by cbinker

The main thing is the front sprocket is lined up with a rim width of 3.5 inches, now you have 4.5 inches. So that is a half inch potential where the rear sprocket is outside the line with the front sprocket.

Saying this as a n00b; what you just said just pole vaulted above my head setting a new world record.

cbinker · June 10th, 2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron

Saying this as a n00b; what you just said just pole vaulted above my head setting a new world record.

It is pretty simple, the plane that the front sprocket and rear sprocket on stock are in perfect alignment. With a wider rim, that also means the sprocket positioning on the rear will be wider also to accommodate the new width. The new position of the sprocket would put it outside the plane that the factory sprocket is on up to a half inch.

Baron · June 10th, 2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

It is pretty simple, the plane that the front sprocket and rear sprocket on stock are in perfect alignment. With a wider rim, that also means the sprocket positioning on the rear will be wider also to accommodate the new width. The new position of the sprocket would put it outside the plane that the factory sprocket is on up to a half inch.

Makes sense. Thanks

InvisiBill · June 11th, 2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

It is pretty simple, the plane that the front sprocket and rear sprocket on stock are in perfect alignment. With a wider rim, that also means the sprocket positioning on the rear will be wider also to accommodate the new width. The new position of the sprocket would put it outside the plane that the factory sprocket is on up to a half inch.

I can't say for sure about the wheels NinjaZX6R123 is getting, but with the VRossi wheels sold by Andy, the hub section of the wheel is the same as stock. Everything still lines up exactly the same. Only the outer rim of the wheel (where the tire mounts) is wider.

DmbShn41 · June 14th, 2014, 06:30 AM

^ Wut he said.

Hub size and rim width are not necessarily 1:1. As long as the hub width is the same as stock, sprocket, axle, and rear brake caliper will line up just fine.

cbinker · June 14th, 2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by InvisiBill

I can't say for sure about the wheels NinjaZX6R123 is getting, but with the VRossi wheels sold by Andy, the hub section of the wheel is the same as stock. Everything still lines up exactly the same. Only the outer rim of the wheel (where the tire mounts) is wider.

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Originally Posted by DmbShn41

^ Wut he said.

Hub size and rim width are not necessarily 1:1. As long as the hub width is the same as stock, sprocket, axle, and rear brake caliper will line up just fine.

the Chain still has to be able to clear the rim width. if the Hub width of the stock rim is extra wide, then there probably isnt much a problem.

InvisiBill · June 15th, 2014, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

the Chain still has to be able to clear the rim width. if the Hub width of the stock rim is extra wide, then there probably isnt much a problem.

Correct. The stock wheel and the VRossi PnP replacement are about 5.5" wide at the hub (not including the sprocket carrier/cush drive stuff). Going from a 3.5" stocker to a 4.5" VRossi isn't an issue.

If you were going to a much wider wheel, or on a different bike, you'd definitely want to check out the spacing details at the hub and rim to ensure that the chain will clear everything and line up. But it is possible (as seen with these PnP replacements) to make a wheel to take a wider tire without altering the other details of the drive/wheel - making the wheel 1" wider at the tire doesn't necessarily force the sprocket over 1/2".

juliankyhl · June 24th, 2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R123

He said he's been overwhelmed with orders and didn't expect to be this busy. I just shot him an email right now kindly asking the shipment date. If this is delayed another week, I'll be asking for my money back.

I stumbled upon this post when searching for people who have had encounters with Joshua Brasse.

To make a very long stry short, I have designed a table that is for sale on the Ideacious website. The table reached production stage a few months before christmas.
Every pre-orderer (including myself) paid 1450$ and expected everything to be good.
When I was to approve everything for production, the materials was of worse quality than previously agreed upon etc.
We agreed to roll back the product to pre-order status again...

Josh seems like a very nice guy when you talk or write with him, but apparently he is not very good with handling other peoples money!

To my knowledge I am the only one of about 12-14 people that has received full refund. some has received 400-600$ and some nothing.
This has been going on for about 8 months!!!

He has come up with so many excuses about how he was too busy and how there was a special backend programming problem etc etc etc.

To this day he still has "available now" status on my table! I do not know if he is still taking orders and keeping the money.

Please beware of this man and do not trust him to handle your money.

NinjaZX6R, I hope you get your product or your money!

best regards

Julian Kyhl

June 5th, 2014, 06:46 PM	#54
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May 16th, 2014, 02:28 PM	#41
beniblanco ninjette.org member Name: B Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 black Ninja 250r Posts: 114	Hey its your money but I would say that their response is full blown BS on being overwhelmed on orders and didn't expect to be busy. If that was the case why are you hearing it now and shouldn't you have some priority. They said that they were willing to work with you on customizing it a bit here and there but that seems very misleading to me.

May 22nd, 2014, 01:11 PM	#44
NinjaZX6R123 ninjette.org guru Name: Ninja Location: USA Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja ZX6R, 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 256	I spoke with Josh Brasse and I don't doubt he's been very busy with his business. He's an inventor and has several other products he sales besides bike kits. So anyways, the delay is cause he's busy + I had him do some custom mods to the kit. He said it'll be shipped by next week. It's not good business to take this long, however he's very responsive to my questions and sounds like a great guy so I don't mind the extra wait.

June 2nd, 2014, 12:54 PM	#45
NinjaZX6R123 ninjette.org guru Name: Ninja Location: USA Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja ZX6R, 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 256	Update: Spoke to Josh Brasse and he admits they are behind on production. He offered to send me their floor display kit (which I opted out on because I rather not be an a-hole and take away from any sells) and a discount for the delay. I'm thinking another 2 weeks until I get my 31BLK kit. I wonder who's ordering this kit? Doubt much from the West, most likely East countries since they're restricted to 250cc. Anyways, while I wait I had time to install 3" wheels and 120 front tires as well as fender. Will install 4.5" wheels and 150 tires to the back plus tire hugger this week.

June 2nd, 2014, 01:01 PM	#46
Aggrotech ninjette.org sage Name: Justin Location: Fresno CA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 12' Ninja 250 Posts: 831	I want that fender D:

June 3rd, 2014, 02:46 PM	#49
JosueDG ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: Lake Balboa Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Kawi Ninja 300 Posts: 109	You are a very patient person. I would have asked for a refund the day after the original due date. BTW, I am already impatient waiting for the pictures of your project

June 5th, 2014, 10:53 AM	#51
NinjaZX6R123 ninjette.org guru Name: Ninja Location: USA Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja ZX6R, 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 256	Update: So I had time today and installed the 4.5" rear wheel along with 150/60/17 tire as well as the tire hugger. Love the look of the bigger tire than the stock ones. The 31BLK kit by Josh Brasse has yet to be shipped. I'm thinking he probably has some supplier issues or just unprepared to cater in this sector since he can't give me an exact ETA. Good thing I bought it using my credit card and not Paypal. I can go back and dispute the charge if I never get the kit.

June 5th, 2014, 02:31 PM	#52
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	Had a chance to ride it around with the new wheels yet? How has it impacted your ride?

June 9th, 2014, 03:11 PM	#58
Baron Urban Legend Name: Baron Location: Brampton, ON Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE - Circe Posts: 542	Love how it's coming along! You're going to make every head everywhere turn around once it's done. BTW I went to Japan.webikes.net to find the fender + tire huger combo you got but I can't find it, mind telling me which ones you got? Tell me!!! Tell me!!!

June 10th, 2014, 01:57 PM	#65
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June 10th, 2014, 04:26 PM	#67
MrSavvy ninjette.org member Name: Crash dummy Location: Augusta, GA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 106	I like how firm and tight it is. The backpack.

June 10th, 2014, 04:47 PM	#68
NinjaZX6R123 ninjette.org guru Name: Ninja Location: USA Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja ZX6R, 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 256	This is how it stands as of now. Still waiting on the kit and also will do a few other mods once I'm done with the kit. Definitely relocating the rear oil reservoir under the seat. The rear fender will be chopped off exposing the back wheel more.

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DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	^ Wut he said. Hub size and rim width are not necessarily 1:1. As long as the hub width is the same as stock, sprocket, axle, and rear brake caliper will line up just fine. __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

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