Blue tires?

Kevin2109 · September 26th, 2011, 12:16 PM

I was talking to my coworker the other day (he rides a r6) And used to do a lot of track. He was telling me how the chick strip area of a tire sometimes turns blue. I remember him saying because of the tire heating up the cooling down then heating up then cooling down....

Well today was the first time ive ridden since my crash (4 days ago) and when i got to work I noticed my tire was blue...

I do a lot of canyon runs so I am really hard on my tires, but its been a week and a half since my last canyon run, what would cause them to turn blue like this?

massacremasses · September 26th, 2011, 12:23 PM

smurfs

Alex · September 26th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Squid sensors.

Kevin2109 · September 26th, 2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

smurfs

Those sneaky bastards

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Squid sensors.

Ha, Is that a joke?

Alex · September 26th, 2011, 12:31 PM

If you have to ask....

akima · September 26th, 2011, 12:33 PM

Oh wow! How strange.

When I saw the title I thought you were going to be talking about these tyres:

Cool huh! I want tyres like that for my Ninjette.

Trailerboy531 · September 26th, 2011, 12:33 PM

Looks like you ran a squid over in those canyons, ink everywhere!

Lil_Green_Demon · September 26th, 2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

Looks like you ran a squid over in those canyons, ink everywhere!

Clever

Kevin2109 · September 26th, 2011, 12:39 PM

new question, should I get now tires?

Trailerboy531 · September 26th, 2011, 12:42 PM

No, get then tires. They're stickier.

cynicalkit · September 26th, 2011, 12:43 PM

Your coworker is right. Blueing is a result of the rubber composition changing in the tire and can be caused most commonly by heat cycles. It usually results in the tire hardening and you would not be able to get the normal traction you would out of those tires. If you are running a quick pace (hopefully not on the street) I would recommend swapping them out. If you are strictly commuting it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

alex.s · September 26th, 2011, 12:44 PM

pretty sure you're fine, but i'm no expert... you see this on track tires all the time. the google says it's from the heat cycling of the rubber and that it only slightly decreases grip

Kevin2109 · September 26th, 2011, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynicalkit

Your coworker is right. Blueing is a result of the rubber composition changing in the tire and can be caused most commonly by heat cycles. It usually results in the tire hardening and you would not be able to get the normal traction you would out of those tires. If you are running a quick pace (hopefully not on the street) I would recommend swapping them out. If you are strictly commuting it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Im starting to do track soon, but yes I run them pretty hard in the canyon right now

My co worker says to dump them and get a new tire... Guess I may have to buy a new tire soon before I do any canyon runs

Do you think part of the reason I went down last week is because the tire was like this? (its blue on the side I went down on....)

Trailerboy531 · September 26th, 2011, 01:16 PM

I think adding oil into the situation would be the culprit as far as your loss of traction. The blueing, it seems, can cause some traction loss but it would be marginal in comparison. how many miles have you put on these tires?

alex.s · September 26th, 2011, 01:32 PM

I want that bmw scooter...

maybe the blue is actually oil that your tire mopped up from the street

Kevin2109 · September 26th, 2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

I want that bmw scooter...

maybe the blue is actually oil that your tire mopped up from the street

holy ****.... the blue wiped off.... thats so crazy.... so the blue was the oil from the crash

Lil_Green_Demon · September 26th, 2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2109

holy ****.... the blue wiped off.... thats so crazy.... so the blue was the oil from the crash

Good thing you caught it before it caused another crash!

Trailerboy531 · September 26th, 2011, 01:55 PM

WOW. Jesus did you ride through an oil slick or an oil tanker spill?! To have that much oil on the ground I would almost want to say okay...who dumped oil on the ground to watch people fall?

Unless of course it's not oil and it is squid ink

nit8690 · September 27th, 2011, 10:28 AM

I thought squid ink was red lol

Havok · September 28th, 2011, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin2109

holy ****.... the blue wiped off.... thats so crazy.... so the blue was the oil from the crash

I wouldbet money it was not oil but coolant, you put that blue ice stuff in and when you went down it leaked. When it dried it turned more blue. I only say this as I have never seen oil blue nor be dry like that. Just my 2 cents

nit8690 · September 28th, 2011, 09:49 AM

but oil burns with a blueish tint lol

EngrNewf · September 28th, 2011, 10:05 AM

I love the beginning of this thread and those funky blue tires :P

Havok · September 28th, 2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nit8690

but oil burns with a blueish tint lol

The flame is blue the oil is not but I could be wrong, looking at how it's dried I would put 100 bucks on it being coolant.

CZroe · October 5th, 2011, 07:36 PM

That scooter's tire tread pattern clearly wasn't design with function first.

alex.s · October 6th, 2011, 12:58 PM

there are certain "classy" oils that are blue... like how that royal purple crap is purple

Kevin2109 · October 6th, 2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Havok

The flame is blue the oil is not but I could be wrong, looking at how it's dried I would put 100 bucks on it being coolant.

I agree actually, it was pretty dry when I wiped it off. Why the **** was coolant on the ground?!

alex.s · October 6th, 2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2109

I agree actually, it was pretty dry when I wiped it off. Why the **** was coolant on the ground?!

because it's a public street?

Kevin2109 · October 6th, 2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

because it's a public street?

lol touche'

Lou · October 6th, 2011, 02:25 PM

I just noticed some blue-ish marks on my sport demons (front), never would have payed attention if i hadnt read this thread.

randy328 · October 6th, 2011, 08:13 PM

The moisture and oils in the tire itself exude out when they have been heated and cooled rapidly. The bluing can be scrubbed off and the tire should work just as well as if it hadn't blued.

phr3ek · October 7th, 2011, 05:11 AM

listen to the track junkies

thats oil from the tire itself from the many heat cycles and hard canyon runs

doesnt make sense for coolant to spray forward against the wind

September 26th, 2011, 12:16 PM	#1
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	Blue tires? I was talking to my coworker the other day (he rides a r6) And used to do a lot of track. He was telling me how the chick strip area of a tire sometimes turns blue. I remember him saying because of the tire heating up the cooling down then heating up then cooling down.... Well today was the first time ive ridden since my crash (4 days ago) and when i got to work I noticed my tire was blue... I do a lot of canyon runs so I am really hard on my tires, but its been a week and a half since my last canyon run, what would cause them to turn blue like this? __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

September 26th, 2011, 12:23 PM	#2
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September 26th, 2011, 12:25 PM	#3
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September 26th, 2011, 12:31 PM	#5
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	If you have to ask.... __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 26th, 2011, 12:39 PM	#9
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	new question, should I get now tires? __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

September 26th, 2011, 12:33 PM	#6
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	Oh wow! How strange. When I saw the title I thought you were going to be talking about these tyres: Cool huh! I want tyres like that for my Ninjette.

September 26th, 2011, 12:33 PM	#7
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Looks like you ran a squid over in those canyons, ink everywhere!

September 26th, 2011, 12:42 PM	#10
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	No, get then tires. They're stickier.

September 26th, 2011, 12:43 PM	#11
cynicalkit la pussy gata Name: kit Location: xx Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): big wheel Posts: 540	Your coworker is right. Blueing is a result of the rubber composition changing in the tire and can be caused most commonly by heat cycles. It usually results in the tire hardening and you would not be able to get the normal traction you would out of those tires. If you are running a quick pace (hopefully not on the street) I would recommend swapping them out. If you are strictly commuting it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

September 26th, 2011, 12:44 PM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	pretty sure you're fine, but i'm no expert... you see this on track tires all the time. the google says it's from the heat cycling of the rubber and that it only slightly decreases grip __________________________________________________

September 26th, 2011, 01:16 PM	#14
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	I think adding oil into the situation would be the culprit as far as your loss of traction. The blueing, it seems, can cause some traction loss but it would be marginal in comparison. how many miles have you put on these tires?

September 26th, 2011, 01:32 PM	#15
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	I want that bmw scooter... maybe the blue is actually oil that your tire mopped up from the street __________________________________________________

September 26th, 2011, 01:55 PM	#18
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	WOW. Jesus did you ride through an oil slick or an oil tanker spill?! To have that much oil on the ground I would almost want to say okay...who dumped oil on the ground to watch people fall? Unless of course it's not oil and it is squid ink

September 27th, 2011, 10:28 AM	#19
nit8690 ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Oregon Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r soon Posts: 75	I thought squid ink was red lol __________________________________________________ Getting a ninja 250 asap

September 28th, 2011, 09:49 AM	#21
nit8690 ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Oregon Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r soon Posts: 75	but oil burns with a blueish tint lol __________________________________________________ Getting a ninja 250 asap

September 28th, 2011, 10:05 AM	#22
EngrNewf Geeket Name: Terri-Lynn Location: Newfoundland Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 175	I love the beginning of this thread and those funky blue tires :P __________________________________________________ bike++;

October 5th, 2011, 07:36 PM	#24
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	That scooter's tire tread pattern clearly wasn't design with function first.

October 6th, 2011, 12:58 PM	#25
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	there are certain "classy" oils that are blue... like how that royal purple crap is purple __________________________________________________

October 6th, 2011, 02:25 PM	#29
Lou ninjette.org member Name: LOU Location: Imperial County, California Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): GreenSE 09 250R Posts: 247	I just noticed some blue-ish marks on my sport demons (front), never would have payed attention if i hadnt read this thread.

October 6th, 2011, 08:13 PM	#30
randy328 CMRA Mini Endurance #6 Name: Randy Location: Paradise, Tx Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): CBR954, CBR600RR, EX250 Posts: 108	The moisture and oils in the tire itself exude out when they have been heated and cooled rapidly. The bluing can be scrubbed off and the tire should work just as well as if it hadn't blued.
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October 7th, 2011, 05:11 AM	#31
phr3ek meow? Name: kevin Location: I.E. SoCal Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2004 636 Posts: 587	listen to the track junkies thats oil from the tire itself from the many heat cycles and hard canyon runs doesnt make sense for coolant to spray forward against the wind
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