April 14th, 2009, 09:28 PM | #41 |
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i think the main type of motorcycle tires that run with tubes are the ones with the metal spoke rims.
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April 15th, 2009, 01:00 AM | #42 |
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thats what i thought too...but i've heard of running tubes with tubless tires but was never clear on the pro's of the idea. i assume it would prevent some kinds of rapid air loss incidents, maybe give you some time to react...what would that do to weight and balance? nothing i suppose hehe...
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April 15th, 2009, 01:34 PM | #43 |
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ok, i'm still in scrubbing in stage, but I can feel the difference. AHAHHHHAHHAH. It's a totally different bike. I highly recommend.
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April 15th, 2009, 04:59 PM | #44 |
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Well I just got the call today that my tires are in. Now to see if they have an opening tomorrow to put them on or not. If not they should be able to fit me in on friday.
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April 17th, 2009, 11:05 AM | #45 |
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Ok, now I'm confused. I got 110/90-16's for the front and the shop is telling me they won't fit cause they are too tall, they rub the fender. So I look at the other tire sizes and the only one listed at 80 is the 120/80-16. So I asked them won't that be too wide and they said they're not sure and that I might not be able to use the sport demon's. I told them that everyone uses them on this bike. Am I missing something there?
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April 17th, 2009, 02:53 PM | #46 |
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100/90-16 my friend.
That's what I have and also here: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_ti...fit_the_250%3F
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April 20th, 2009, 11:11 PM | #49 |
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was able to install my sport demons this past saturday. aside from a minor scare thinking i had ordered the wrong front size, both tires mounted without any major problems. i'd like to thank kkim for having me over and helping get those demons on the wheels. was alot of work, and i'm grateful to have had his support!
i got the 130/90 rear and 100/90 front. both tires are taller than the stock rubber that was on there. one thing i noticed after installing is that my centerstand no longer lifts the bike enuff off the ground: demons.jpg other than that, haven't experienced anything else cuz i haven't had the chance to ride cept for around the block due to weather. of course, there's nothing like new skins to enhance any ride! letcha know how it goes when i get her up in the twisties! "with great grip, comes great responsibility!"
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April 20th, 2009, 11:13 PM | #50 |
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congrats on getting the new shoes! so what are you going to do with the center stand now? remove it? probably free up some weight, huh?
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April 20th, 2009, 11:14 PM | #51 |
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lol... it's always something, eh? put a piece of 2x8 down under where the center stand will land to lift the bike.
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April 20th, 2009, 11:16 PM | #52 |
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or just let out all the air from your tires before you try using the center stand.
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April 21st, 2009, 12:01 AM | #54 | |
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i was able to get in a good ride today (other than just commuting to and from work) with the new sport demons.
of course, ANY new tire installation changes grippage, and these puppies definately do that! my ride to poipu gave me several opportunities to pull some high-g turns and the sport demons did not disappoint whatsoever. first thing i did was to initiate a 45 deg. turn thats just over 100 yards from my driveway. i did this cuz that turn with my old tires nearly had me eating pebbles one morning. the demons gobbled the turn no problem, taken at a higher entry speed than i did that almost-fateful morning. i'm sure i asked too much from my old tires that morning. today, the demons instilled confidence right off the bat, and i found myself powering out of turns with no traction slippage whatsoever. the REAL test comes when i take these new 'shoes' for a hike up the hill in kkim's wake. me and my demons will be looking forward to that. Quote:
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May 3rd, 2009, 11:29 AM | #56 |
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Ok so it's about time that I give an update on the tires since I've had them on for three weeks.
I can honestly say that I felt the difference when I was on the bike pulling it out of the garage and didn't even turn it on. The taller tire in the front makes the bike feel allot more balanced. I don't know why Kawi didn't have these sizes stock. I notice a slight reduction in nosediving. My impression was that the feeling in the handlebars was allot more supersportish and less 250ish. When I started, I had the pressure set to 32-32. I ran like this for a while and just yesterday I dropped the front pressure to 28 and kept the rear at 32. I like having it set at this. The bike just feels better. What I really need to do is check my hot and cold temps and see if its a 10% between hot and cold. I hope it is because the bike is feeling really good. I've noticed that the tire itself is constructed more rigidly than the stock tires. This can be felt when slowing down to a stop light while downshifting. The vibration from the road and the engine is less absorbed by the tires and more into the chassis. I see no downfall with this and it is barely noticeable. I see this as an improvement. The actual grip of the tire is much much better than stock. My confidence has increased due to this. I take turns faster than before and the brakes are more responsive as well. I believe that the taller tire in the front has given the bike a better weight distribution. I do not ride highways other than to get to the twisties. So my analysis is based on frequent leaning. However, these tires have provided me a new problem. Which is for another thread. |
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May 6th, 2009, 08:23 AM | #57 |
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How is the millage on the Sport Deamons for commuting? I'm trying to decide what tires to get and I spend most of my riding commuting. I've got it narrowed down to the following three...
Pirelli Sport Demons - I'm concerned about commuting wearing down the center too fast... Bridgestone BT45 - Duel Compound rear for longer lasting center. My wife has these and likes them. Metzler Lasertech - Not heard much about them, but I haven't heard anything BAD about them... Any suggestions? |
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June 30th, 2009, 11:32 AM | #58 |
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My front Sport Demons are still very good after 5k trip to california.
I did have about 40lbs of baggage behind me.(i weigh about 160)
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June 30th, 2009, 07:08 PM | #59 |
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I have the demons as well great tire, confidence inspiring, honestly they feel as good to me as the qualifiers (from dunlop) I had on a sv650.
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July 2nd, 2009, 03:04 PM | #60 |
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I just had mine installed this past weekend and I'm loving them. I had the stock Dunlops which didn't do well with leaning, imho. The SD are so round they practically lay into the lean. Road bumps are not as pronounced and they don't have the tendency to follow the grooves in the road.
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July 2nd, 2009, 03:16 PM | #61 |
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The stock dunlops would lean over, you would just wet your pants when you did lean over that far. They felt so bad and did nothing for making you feel "planted".
I have PSD's on mine, and I honestly can't see myself running another tire.
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July 2nd, 2009, 06:11 PM | #63 |
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how much $ do psd's run ?
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Very comparable to the stockers.
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July 3rd, 2009, 06:43 AM | #65 |
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2 weeks ago, they were less than 195 with free shipping at motorcycle superstore. Also no taxes (for me anyway).
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July 3rd, 2009, 06:45 AM | #66 |
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Just checked, and they are still at that price.
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I just ordered a new sports demon for the rear. I paied 139$ Canadian...I guess it's not too bad since everything is so expensive here (ad 13% tax on that tire and mounting and I'm pretty close to 200$ for the rear only). My front still have some months to go!
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July 3rd, 2009, 01:10 PM | #68 |
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the only problem (for me) with ordering tires online is then paying someone else to mount and balance them.. I ended up getting the 100/90/16 SD from teh front from a local bike place for like $180 with taxes, mounting and balancing dropping the bike off as is.
The difference in the bike was immediate.. the Pirelli feels YEARS BETTER than those Dunlops... now I have to replace teh rear and I'll be even happier..
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July 5th, 2009, 10:19 AM | #69 |
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How much did the place charge to mount/balance the tire? You may want to look around. I know the first place that I went to wanted $60/tire, second place was $28/tire. Also, there was no wait time at the second place.
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Can anyone vouch for the SD in the rain?
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I'm excited about the new rear SD I had put on while my exhaust was being tweaked! Those dunlops are crap!!! Can't wait to see the difference.
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I can 100% vouch for the SD's in the rain. I got caught in a massive downpour on the highway with high winds, puddles, haze from the rain (ya it sucked and happened in like 30 seconds) and never felt any loss of traction. I did feel wet and beaten to hell and back by the wind however, but the grip felt fine all the way to where I finally found shelter.
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October 3rd, 2009, 06:56 AM | #74 |
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I did a lot of riding on wet roads on my SD on my Katana, way better than the other tires I was running. I think it might have actually been the forerunner of the SD as I think they were just called Demons back then. Basically Pirelli makes great tires and pretty much Dunlop suck. I'll have Michelin Pilot Power on my Buell when I pick it up and get the front changed, not sure how many miles I'll get on it this fall, and they only fit the 08/09 Ninjettes (maybe), probably go back to Pirelli (Corsa III) after that since it is stocked at the Harley/Buell dealer.
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Good to know.... I was wondering since the center grove is zig-zagged, instead of straight.
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October 3rd, 2009, 10:23 AM | #76 |
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It's made to channel the water away from the center and spit it out the edges.
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Pirelli Sport Demons
Anyone riding them? My rear tire is toast and Im ordering a new set this week. I think I'm going with the sport demons. What is your take on these demons?
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September 12th, 2011, 04:28 PM | #78 |
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Yes. Love them. Better than stock, and available in stock widths, which I prefer for very flickable nijette. Turn in super with them, grippy, but also not ridiculously soft so you'll still get wear. Prices reasonable, too.
On a track bike I'd go a different direction towards more expensive soft compound radial instead of bias ply. But a great choice for a street bike. Forum mod Alex also swears by them.
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Cool, just realized there are previous threads on this subject. Pretty sure Im going with the demons.
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Yup. I liked them on the pre-gens and continue to like them on the new-gens.
/thread moved the pre-gen tech /merged with other mongo sport demon thread
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