09 Keyless Ignition

Chad4434 · August 20th, 2013, 09:20 PM

Can anyone help me out and tell me how to make a keyless ignition for my 09 kawasaki ninja 250 any help would be appreciated cheers

Asspire · August 20th, 2013, 09:29 PM

ummm, use a toggle switch??

who, what, when, why?

Chad4434 · August 20th, 2013, 09:34 PM

Its a bit more complicated then that, i have to wire in a 100hms resistor i just dont know what wires i have to wire it in to

Chad4434 · August 20th, 2013, 09:41 PM

And im not having any accessories, no lights or anything

Aodrn · August 21st, 2013, 05:17 AM

I'm interested in this for my track bike. I have no useful input though

conrya5 · August 21st, 2013, 06:21 AM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35886

Aodrn · August 21st, 2013, 07:41 AM

The diagram is cool, but I'm too dumb to figure out what to hotwire. I have heard the resistor is necessary though. Not sure on what wire either.

bruce71198 · August 21st, 2013, 09:33 AM

Looking at the wiring diagram there is NOT a security circuit that would require a resistor to the igniter. So, put a toggle switch in place of the ignition switch and attach the white wire to one side and the grey wire and brown wire to the other side. I would recomend a 20 amp switch or larger.

Aodrn · August 21st, 2013, 09:57 AM

So to really dumb this down:
Will the toggle switch have three poles or do I put the grey and brown together and then attach it ?
Electricity is not my strong point if you can't tell.

conrya5 · August 21st, 2013, 10:03 AM

Would you be able to use the existing engine kill switch as a toggle switch with modifications?

bruce71198 · August 21st, 2013, 11:31 AM

Buy a 2 position (on/off) switch with 2 poles from Radio Shack, The white wire to one side and the other 2 wires to the remaining terminal. If you have a 3 pole switch the third other pole is probably for a light on the switch. The handle bar switch runs through a relay and wont handle the amp draw of the ignition switch. There are handle bar switches available aftermarket that will work.

Aodrn · August 21st, 2013, 11:36 AM

Much appreciated

Lychee · August 21st, 2013, 11:36 AM

If you take off all the lights and place resistors in their place, theoretically you could break a key off in the ignition leaving it in the on position. Then the existing kill switch would be your ignition toggle.

Edit: Might need to remove the 30A main fuse when not in use.

bruce71198 · August 21st, 2013, 01:41 PM

Actually you could just leave all the lights unplugged and remove the 30 amp fuse when not in use.

bruce71198 · September 20th, 2013, 09:09 PM

I must apologize for possibly steering you in the wrong direction. Today I put a 1991 engine in my 2008 race bike. Easy to do if you have a doner bike as you will need the old mounts and bolts. I also have a 1997. So here's what I found. The 1991 does not have a security circuit in the ignition switch. My 97 and 08 do, it's the grey wire coming out of the CDI box and it needs a 100 ohm resistor between it and 12 switched power. Sorry if this caused you any trouble.

tgold · October 5th, 2016, 04:12 AM

Save yourself some hassle and use the Woodcraft keyswitch eliminator:

https://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bi...on&key=43-0104

I used one of these for my SV650 racebike and they work great. No cutting of wires and the time savings for install is well worth the price IMO.

August 20th, 2013, 09:20 PM	#1
Chad4434 ninjette.org newbie Name: Chad Location: Sussex Inlet Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 6	09 Keyless Ignition Can anyone help me out and tell me how to make a keyless ignition for my 09 kawasaki ninja 250 any help would be appreciated cheers

August 21st, 2013, 11:36 AM	#13
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	If you take off all the lights and place resistors in their place, theoretically you could break a key off in the ignition leaving it in the on position. Then the existing kill switch would be your ignition toggle. Edit: Might need to remove the 30A main fuse when not in use. __________________________________________________ Unregistered found this post helpful. Track Day Preparation Checklist 1. Financial 2. Mental 3. Physical 4. Gear / Bike

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August 20th, 2013, 09:29 PM	#2
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	ummm, use a toggle switch?? who, what, when, why?

August 20th, 2013, 09:34 PM	#3
Chad4434 ninjette.org newbie Name: Chad Location: Sussex Inlet Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 6	Its a bit more complicated then that, i have to wire in a 100hms resistor i just dont know what wires i have to wire it in to

August 20th, 2013, 09:41 PM	#4
Chad4434 ninjette.org newbie Name: Chad Location: Sussex Inlet Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 6	And im not having any accessories, no lights or anything

August 21st, 2013, 05:17 AM	#5
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	I'm interested in this for my track bike. I have no useful input though

August 21st, 2013, 06:21 AM	#6
conrya5 ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: South Eastern, PA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Metalic Island Blue Ninja 250r Posts: 206	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35886

August 21st, 2013, 07:41 AM	#7
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	The diagram is cool, but I'm too dumb to figure out what to hotwire. I have heard the resistor is necessary though. Not sure on what wire either.

August 21st, 2013, 09:33 AM	#8
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	Looking at the wiring diagram there is NOT a security circuit that would require a resistor to the igniter. So, put a toggle switch in place of the ignition switch and attach the white wire to one side and the grey wire and brown wire to the other side. I would recomend a 20 amp switch or larger.

August 21st, 2013, 09:57 AM	#9
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	So to really dumb this down: Will the toggle switch have three poles or do I put the grey and brown together and then attach it ? Electricity is not my strong point if you can't tell.

August 21st, 2013, 10:03 AM	#10
conrya5 ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: South Eastern, PA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Metalic Island Blue Ninja 250r Posts: 206	Would you be able to use the existing engine kill switch as a toggle switch with modifications?

August 21st, 2013, 11:31 AM	#11
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	Buy a 2 position (on/off) switch with 2 poles from Radio Shack, The white wire to one side and the other 2 wires to the remaining terminal. If you have a 3 pole switch the third other pole is probably for a light on the switch. The handle bar switch runs through a relay and wont handle the amp draw of the ignition switch. There are handle bar switches available aftermarket that will work.

August 21st, 2013, 01:41 PM	#14
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	Actually you could just leave all the lights unplugged and remove the 30 amp fuse when not in use.

September 20th, 2013, 09:09 PM	#15
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	I must apologize for possibly steering you in the wrong direction. Today I put a 1991 engine in my 2008 race bike. Easy to do if you have a doner bike as you will need the old mounts and bolts. I also have a 1997. So here's what I found. The 1991 does not have a security circuit in the ignition switch. My 97 and 08 do, it's the grey wire coming out of the CDI box and it needs a 100 ohm resistor between it and 12 switched power. Sorry if this caused you any trouble.

October 5th, 2016, 04:12 AM	#16
tgold ninjette.org sage Name: Timm Location: West Seneca, NY Join Date: Oct 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2006 1050 Speed Triple, 2010 250 Ninja racebike, YZF320RR? Racebike Posts: 556 MOTM - Nov '15	Save yourself some hassle and use the Woodcraft keyswitch eliminator: https://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bi...on&key=43-0104 I used one of these for my SV650 racebike and they work great. No cutting of wires and the time savings for install is well worth the price IMO.