Crank but no start

fishdip · April 18th, 2013, 02:44 PM

02/250

So I decided to do the valves/clean the carbs and sync them since I had them off. All went well tell it was time to start it. It will crank over but I can not get it to start. Yes I put gas back in the tank as I pulled it off and clean it out I can also see the fuel flowing in to the carbs out of the inline fuel filter.
The battery has a good charge and the bike was running before I started this work last night.

Any ideas you got I am willing to try it thanks in advance.

Joshorilla · April 18th, 2013, 02:52 PM

Synced carbs and valves ey, do it again, but this time properly.

fishdip · April 18th, 2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshorilla

Synced carbs and valves ey, do it again, but this time properly.

What do you mean I followed the shop manual to the T?

Lychee · April 18th, 2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

What do you mean I followed the shop manual to the T?

Would start if you did. Spark, fuel, compression. Check for all. How did you sync without a running engine?

fishdip · April 18th, 2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lychee

Would start if you did. Spark, fuel, compression. Check for all. How did you sync without a running engine?

In the book it tells you to do a visual sync with them off.

Lychee · April 18th, 2013, 04:50 PM

Well, if you have ruled out spark and fuel, then the only thing left is compression. The valve adjustment directly affects this. Perhaps you should do as Joshorilla suggests and have at it again. Check that you are using the proper size feeler gauges. When you finish with the adjustment and get the engine going again, you should sync the carbs using a vacuum meter of some sort. This is to account for any imperfections between the intake valve clearances. There are many different ways to do this, the simplest is with a long tube with liquid in it.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_..._the_valves%3F
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_...carburetors%3F

Asspire · April 18th, 2013, 05:10 PM

did you plug in the ignition coils (and correctly)?

I may know of some who had the same problem once.....

fishdip · April 18th, 2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lychee

Well, if you have ruled out spark and fuel, then the only thing left is compression. The valve adjustment directly affects this. Perhaps you should do as Joshorilla suggests and have at it again. Check that you are using the proper size feeler gauges. When you finish with the adjustment and get the engine going again, you should sync the carbs using a vacuum meter of some sort. This is to account for any imperfections between the intake valve clearances. There are many different ways to do this, the simplest is with a long tube with liquid in it.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_..._the_valves%3F
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_...carburetors%3F

Thanks for the reply guys I got it to run after reading how much it takes to get a carb engine to start I went and got a new battery and it fired on the first push of the button. I think the battery had a gone bad as I had it on a trickle charge all night last night. I plan to fine tune the sync now that its running. I all ready made one with the bottle and stopper off that page.

Lychee · April 19th, 2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

Thanks for the reply guys I got it to run after reading how much it takes to get a carb engine to start I went and got a new battery and it fired on the first push of the button. I think the battery had a gone bad as I had it on a trickle charge all night last night. I plan to fine tune the sync now that its running. I all ready made one with the bottle and stopper off that page.

Poogamer69 · April 20th, 2013, 07:58 PM

So it was just the battery and nothing to do with any of these:

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Originally Posted by Asspire

did you plug in the ignition coils (and correctly)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

Would start if you did. Spark, fuel, compression. Check for all. How did you sync without a running engine?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

Perhaps you should do as Joshorilla suggests and have at it again.

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Originally Posted by Joshorilla

Synced carbs and valves ey, do it again, but this time properly.

Tell you what for a site that advertises as being "The friendliest Kawasaki Ninja 250R site", you guys are very arrogant and sarcastic.

Lychee · April 20th, 2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Poogamer69

Tell you what for a site that advertises as being "The friendliest Kawasaki Ninja 250R site", you guys are very arrogant and sarcastic.

I'm sorry that you feel like that. However our suggestions were sound advice based on the information provided to us. A valve adjustment done incorrectly could lead to a non starting engine. The fix would be to take it back apart, redo the adjustment and put it back together. Also, the OP ruled out the battery in the original post. We on the internet have to assume his ruling to be correct. Love your screen name by the way.

Welcome to the site!

choneofakind · April 20th, 2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lychee

Love your screen name by the way.

It's a troll account. Ignore him.

fishdip · April 20th, 2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Poogamer69

So it was just the battery and nothing to do with any of these:

Tell you what for a site that advertises as being "The friendliest Kawasaki Ninja 250R site", you guys are very arrogant and sarcastic.

Yep just the battery I did not even think it been the battery at first since I had it on the charger all night and did not look at it when I had taken it off.

Poogamer69 · April 22nd, 2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

It's a troll account. Ignore him.

No not a troll account at all. I will just ignore you. I quite often come and have a look but I feel no need to post unless I think I can add some value. Thanks for the info that I have taken away with me from the site to date anyway.

choneofakind · April 22nd, 2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Poogamer69

I feel no need to post unless I think I can add some value.

Oh really?

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Originally Posted by Poogamer69

I think your a bit new here.........

^^So this added value??
Great first post.

Poogamer69 · April 22nd, 2013, 09:02 PM

Yep. Funny that you only chimed in on this one to say I was just a troll account, ignore him. Way to boost the post count. Just because I have only 1 or 2 posts, dont mean **** it just means I can get what I need from the site without the need to post anything. If I decide to post about the arrogant tone of some of the responses, I am more than free to do so. Just as people are more than free to post arrogant responses.

Who cares what my first post was anyway? Do you troll much?

Again, thanks for the info that is already here and what I have taken away with me from reading.

Alex · April 22nd, 2013, 09:16 PM

jkaiser209 · May 29th, 2015, 02:09 AM

I have an 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250r and I got it from a friend and it doesn't start he said the ignition box Was bad so I went and bought a new one I put it on try to start it no action So I check the spark plugs to see if any spark So should I just checked the coils and see if its that as gas too and good battery

csmith12 · May 29th, 2015, 08:00 AM

Welcome Jacob! Hope you get your bike sorted soon.

April 18th, 2013, 02:44 PM	#1
fishdip ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Fish Location: co Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250/300 Posts: A lot.	Crank but no start 02/250 So I decided to do the valves/clean the carbs and sync them since I had them off. All went well tell it was time to start it. It will crank over but I can not get it to start. Yes I put gas back in the tank as I pulled it off and clean it out I can also see the fuel flowing in to the carbs out of the inline fuel filter. The battery has a good charge and the bike was running before I started this work last night. Any ideas you got I am willing to try it thanks in advance.

April 18th, 2013, 04:50 PM	#6
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	Well, if you have ruled out spark and fuel, then the only thing left is compression. The valve adjustment directly affects this. Perhaps you should do as Joshorilla suggests and have at it again. Check that you are using the proper size feeler gauges. When you finish with the adjustment and get the engine going again, you should sync the carbs using a vacuum meter of some sort. This is to account for any imperfections between the intake valve clearances. There are many different ways to do this, the simplest is with a long tube with liquid in it. http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_..._the_valves%3F http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_...carburetors%3F __________________________________________________ Unregistered found this post helpful. Track Day Preparation Checklist 1. Financial 2. Mental 3. Physical 4. Gear / Bike

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May 29th, 2015, 02:09 AM	#18
jkaiser209 ninjette.org newbie Name: jacob Location: los banos Join Date: May 2015 Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250 R Posts: 1	my ninjas cranking over but no start and has no spark in the spark plugs in both of t I have an 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250r and I got it from a friend and it doesn't start he said the ignition box Was bad so I went and bought a new one I put it on try to start it no action So I check the spark plugs to see if any spark So should I just checked the coils and see if its that as gas too and good battery

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April 18th, 2013, 02:52 PM	#2
Joshorilla Bass Master General Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 24	Synced carbs and valves ey, do it again, but this time properly.

April 18th, 2013, 05:10 PM	#7
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	did you plug in the ignition coils (and correctly)? I may know of some who had the same problem once.....

April 22nd, 2013, 09:02 PM	#16
Poogamer69 Ninja bot Name: Poo Location: Earth Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300 Posts: 8	Yep. Funny that you only chimed in on this one to say I was just a troll account, ignore him. Way to boost the post count. Just because I have only 1 or 2 posts, dont mean **** it just means I can get what I need from the site without the need to post anything. If I decide to post about the arrogant tone of some of the responses, I am more than free to do so. Just as people are more than free to post arrogant responses. Who cares what my first post was anyway? Do you troll much? Again, thanks for the info that is already here and what I have taken away with me from reading.

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