Signals on mirrors

[headshrink]

I was looking for those little convex mirrors today, but could only find 2" ones, which seem pretty big for our tiny mirrors. Then I saw this gem at autozone (image below).... I have been wanting to add integrated mirrors, or signals to my existing mirrors so this was a welcomed detour to my mirror search (probably couldn't do both using these). These wouldn't replace my stock signals, but be in addition to them for added visibility.

When I got these home and held them up to the mirror, I started to think twice about them and may return it because they are pretty big for motorcycles. The more I think about it, I don't need a big arrow.... even a round marker light will work. Theoretically they could be stuck to the front of the mirrors (wouldn't be seen from rear in this configuration), BUT one would need to find them in orange, since you can't have a red light facing forward. The angle on the front of our mirror housings are also not at an ideal viewing angle.

I'm not sure if I would need to add resistance for these units if I did use them.... they likely already have resisters internally since they are being sold for cages.

[randomwalk101]

if you mount something like that, how are you going to run the wire? down the side? no no...that'd look tacky. Get something like Gixxer mirrors...they're cheap on ebay and looks a lot better I think.

[headshrink]

Will the bolts line up on those? I have seen many ask on other boards, and no real answer to that.

[randomwalk101]

Prob not going to line up...so you'll have to drill a couple holes to fit. They'll be under the base of the mirror so once it's mounted, the base will cover them and they won't be visible.

[headshrink]

Thanks!

Do you know if these are LED signals (GIXER integrated mirrors)? I plan on wiring them in as an additional signal, rather than replacing the stock signals, so if they are and the original load remains.... am I OK without added resistors?

[randomwalk101]

THe Gixxer mirror is bulb type (1156). You can buy a 1156 style LED bulb and replace them if you like or you can use then as is. You can also put flushies in the stock signal location once you got those signal mirrors.

Kinda like this CBR of mine.

[headshrink]

Those integrated mirrors on your CBR look fantastic! I like them more than the gixer mirrors, and would prefer adding those if I had the choice.

Perhaps if I did that I might set-up my stock signals to work as running lights/signals and the mirrors as signals only.
I'm not sure how to do that (separating functions), probably with a Signal Dynamics module, but I'm sure it can be done.

[randomwalk101]

Originally Posted by headshrink

Those integrated mirrors on your CBR look fantastic! I like them more than the gixer mirrors, and would prefer adding those if I had the choice.

Perhaps if I did that I might set-up my stock signals to work as running lights/signals and the mirrors as signals only.
I'm not sure how to do that (separating functions), probably with a Signal Dynamics module, but I'm sure it can be done.

Yeah I used to have Gixxer mirror but I took it off to replace with those 2008 1krr mirrors....3 times the cost of Gixxer mirror but you're right, they do look better.

[headshrink]

So you put those on your 250r? Have any pics with them installed?

[randomwalk101]

no i gave the mirrors to a friend already If i going to put it on this 250R, i'd have to buy another set...but it's only a 250..don't want to do too much..i've spent too much on it already.

[randomwalk101]

here are some pics of a CBR with Gixxer mirrors.

Original thread here

[Sailariel]

Shrink, Those CBR mirrors would look great on the Ninja. Then you could use the spot the directionals were for a set of Driving/Fog lamps. PIAA makes a great set which is only 2" in diameter. I`ll consider that mod for the future.

[headshrink]

I just looked up those PIAA lights and can't believe how $$ they are.... they look cool though.

[headshrink]

For the CBR mirrors, when I look up the parts, the "assemblies" that are listed for ~ $68 each..... do these include the integrated blinkers inside, or is it just the housing? The way they have them drawn don't make this clear to me, and I couldn't see where you could get the blinker parts at all for the front. (it seems all the stores use the same db with the same pictures)

[ken_here]

im sure you have all seen these posted on kawi forums right.

[randomwalk101]

^^ yeah I've seen that..it doesn't look as good to me.

Headshrink: no you need to add all the parts up. All little parts costs to make a complete mirror will costs about 160 so two mirros will run you about $320. Gixxer mirror is a cheaper alternatives if you're short on cash. It will run about $100 brand new. It looks real good too.

Here is the list if you want to go the CBR route.

11359-KSV-J10 MAT, L. FR. COVER (Honda Code 8893075) (BOTH SIDES) $1.00 2 $2.00

88110-MFL-003 MIRROR ASSY., R. BACK (Honda Code 8900797) $62.14 1 $62.14

88113-MFL-003 COVER, R. BACK MIRROR (Honda Code 8900805) $9.97 1 $9.97

88118-MFL-003 COVER, L. BACK MIRROR (Honda Code 8900813) $9.97 1 $9.97

88120-MFL-003 MIRROR ASSY., L. BACK (Honda Code 8900821) $62.14 1 $62.14

90202-GCC-C50 NUT, CAP (6MM) (Honda Code 8901381) $1.15 4 $4.60

93913-25380 SCREW, TAPPING (5X14) (PO) (Honda Code 4327219) $1.00 2 $2.00

33405-MFL-671 SOCKET, R. (Honda Code 8895880) $31.88 1 $31.88

33455-MFL-671 SOCKET, L. (Honda Code 8895906) $31.88 1 $31.88

18293-GN2-000 RUBBER, PROTECTOR GASKET (Honda Code 1930502) $1.37 4 $5.48

33403-MFL-671 LENS, R. (Honda Code 8895872) $17.58 1 $17.58

60107-752-000 RUBBER, FUEL LID STOPPER (Honda Code 2559631) $1.88 4 $7.52

94103-04800 WASHER, PLAIN (4MM) (Honda Code 0638247) $1.00 4 $4.00

93913-24320 SCREW, TAPPING (4X12) (Honda Code 4078127) $1.00 4 $4.00

33453-MFL-671 LENS, L. (Honda Code 8895898) $17.58 1 $17.58

34905-MEJ-671 BULB, TURN SIGNAL (12V 21W) (Honda Code 8895971) $2.04 2 $4.08

[headshrink]

Hmmmm, I actually haven't seen these installed. I have seen the mirrors on ebay, but wondered what they looked like installed. I did read somewhere that they were "virtually useless" due to excessive vibration. If anyone has direct knowledge of this and can either confirm or deny, please do so.

[headshrink]

randomwalk: that is unbelieveable - too rich for my blood. Maybe I'll check wrecking yards.

[randomwalk101]

Originally Posted by headshrink

randomwalk: that is unbelieveable - too rich for my blood. Maybe I'll check wrecking yards.

LOL...gotta pay to play. That CBR, I bought for 9K, put in about 10K in parts. I installed everything so labor is free
The 250, I bought for 4.3K, put in like 4.5K in parts...labor again is free I actually made a thread tallied up all the costs of that 250 in the Kawiforum somewhere...I think it came out to around 8.7K or something like that.

[muffinman]

Originally Posted by ken_here

im sure you have all seen these posted on kawi forums right.

Those look awesome... what are they called?

[CRXTrek]

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

here are some pics of a CBR with Gixxer mirrors.

Original thread here

I really want mirrors like these . But where they mount to the body on your CBR and where there bolt on the ninja are at different angles.
Do the arms have that much adjustabilty to work for our bikes?

[ROCKNROLLA]

Where can I get ahold of those carbon signal mirrors for the Ninja?

[headshrink]

I searched and searched for that origonal thread..... couldn't find it, care to post a link?

[randomwalk101]

Originally Posted by CRXTrek

I really want mirrors like these . But where they mount to the body on your CBR and where there bolt on the ninja are at different angles.
Do the arms have that much adjustabilty to work for our bikes?

you will probably have to find a solid piece of black plastic and grind it down to make an adaptor...so the gixxer mirror will mount to the adaptor and that connects to the original 250's mounts.

[headshrink]

Does anyone know if it is possible to use the stock mirror "stalks" with the above mirror without destroying either? I was thinking about wanting the improved wind and vibration resistance....

[watcanido]

I did some searching and I believe I have the same mirrors but in black.They can be fitted to work with the stock mirror mount, but you will need to sand it down a bit, also you need to drill a hole in the middle of the stock mount for the wires. If you are going to use the the mounts that came with the new mirrors you will need to buy longer nuts and bolts to mount it, the ones that came with it is too short. I haven't actually installed it yet just waiting to get a heat gun so I can mold the plastic to straighten it up a bit just the way I want it, the way the stalk is angled is just terrible, you can't see anything behind when fitted. I can post pics if requested. This is where I bought mine, he also sells it in carbon fiber just like the one above.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Kawasaki-Ninja-50...3A1|240%3A1318

[Buffalony]

i threw up in my mouth when i seen that cbr. thats a nice ride.

[headshrink]

double post, sorry - fixed below.

[headshrink]

[QUOTE=headshrink;27585]

Originally Posted by watcanido

I did some searching and I believe I have the same mirrors but in black.They can be fitted to work with the stock mirror mount, but you will need to sand it down a bit, also you need to drill a hole in the middle of the stock mount for the wires. If you are going to use the the mounts that came with the new mirrors you will need to buy longer nuts and bolts to mount it, the ones that came with it is too short. I haven't actually installed it yet just waiting to get a heat gun so I can mold the plastic to straighten it up a bit just the way I want it, the way the stalk is angled is just terrible, you can't see anything behind when fitted. I can post pics if requested. This is where I bought mine, he also sells it in carbon fiber just like the one above.

Just to clarify.... do you need to drill through the length of the origional stalk itself (sounds difficult), or just the baseplate/mount (much easier) for the wires?

[watcanido]

[QUOTE=headshrink;27586]

Originally Posted by headshrink

Just to clarify.... do you need to drill through the length of the origional stalk itself (sounds difficult), or just the baseplate/mount (much easier) for the wires?

just the base plate mount. I still gotta straighten it out though, I got a friend that has a heat gun and knows how to work with plastic so I asked him to do it for me. might get it done by the weekend. I'll post pics soon. Also newenough.com has some mirrors with signal lights that look the same as the ones I got off ebay but they are selling it for $95, they are similar but the newenough ones has a different stalk I believe.

[polokid699]

Originally Posted by muffinman

Those look awesome... what are they called?

[polokid699]

I used the factory brackets on the aftermarket mirrors and that helped with vibration.

[trevor_shiggs]

I used the mounts that came with the mirrors. Mine are not carbon fiber look but just black.