HAHAHAHAHA, this made me giggle.

gilmorec61 · February 19th, 2012, 10:32 PM

So, im on craigslist just looking around and i come upon this Hyosung GT250R.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/mcy/2859799341.html

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Full size Bike not like the ninja 250 or others.

This guy just seems straight up...well he clearly hasn't ever ridden a Ninja 250, or a bigger bike because he claims its a "full size" bike...

Yeah right.

Anyways, i got some enjoyment out of it, thought ya'll might, maybe not, anywho, there you go

gophurr · February 19th, 2012, 10:39 PM

If that made you giggle so will this.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/for/2857158062.html

If you want a ninja 250 style motorcycle, then by all means, have at it.

nickjpass · February 19th, 2012, 10:40 PM

Haha, I just posted a article about a listing for a GT250R a few days ago

nickjpass · February 19th, 2012, 10:51 PM

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All in all its not a bad bike and is the same class as the CBR or Ninja.

Until it starts rusting and falling apart earlier than it should have.

gilmorec61 · February 19th, 2012, 10:51 PM

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If that made you giggle so will this.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/for/2857158062.html

If you want a ninja 250 style motorcycle, then by all means, have at it.

I almost couldnt laugh at that because it was so stupid! "literrately"

Definently not a word lol.

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The Hyosung is in between the CBR 250 and the Ninja 250 in HP. It is carbed like the ninja and does not have the low end torque of the CBR. It has more vibration than either bike (the CBR having the least). It does have a "bigger feel" though, largely due to the design on the fuel tank.

With that in mind the guy is selling something, he is using marketing speak to try to make a lesser known Korean bike sound better. All in all its not a bad bike and is the same class as the CBR or Ninja.

Yeah i figured that. Still the way the guy made it sound was more than he should have. IMO.

gilmorec61 · February 19th, 2012, 10:52 PM

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Until it starts rusting and falling apart earlier than it should have.

+1

nickjpass · February 19th, 2012, 11:15 PM

You get what you pay for. That's all I have to say.

Alex · February 19th, 2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by trixter

I have not yet seen a review that suggested premature rusting.

The MCN Review on Youtube was pretty clear about the premature rusting.

Link to original page on YouTube.

250rr · February 20th, 2012, 12:16 AM

Premature rust comment starts at approximately 4:00.

sombo · February 20th, 2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by trixter

Do you have any evidence of that or are you suggesting that just because its a Korean bike it is inferior to a Thai bike? Its hard to call the ninja 250 or the CBR 250 a japanese bike when both are made in Thailand.

Yes they are made in Thailand but supervised and inspected by Kawasaki to make sure they are up to their standards. Hyosung does not yet have the quality control standards that Kawasaki or the other Japanese manufacturers do. They are improving as they gain some footing in other markets and learning from those they are trying to compete with. Same as what Hyundai did over the years to where they are now getting awards for they quality. Don't be surprised if Hyosung eventually does the same.

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Originally Posted by trixter

I have not yet seen a review that suggested premature rusting. The only thing I read/heard/saw was that its "fit and finish is not up to the same class" which is cosmetic and not structural in nature.

You must not have seen too many reviews then. The 250 shootout between the GT250R and the Ninja 250 done by MCN in UK noted that on a brand new GT250R that they used for it already had rust on some of the welds. They also noticed that the paint was somewhat bubbled and not very well done. So yes, the Hyosungs are susceptible to early rusting considering a brand new one from the factory already had rust on it during a shootout.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Around the 1:20 mark he speaks about "bits and pieces already rusty", and at the end he also mentions the rust in places. I've also heard it in rider reviews that they found rust practically off the show room floor. I think this was a few years ago. I believe that Hyosung started coating the frame to compensate for this a year or two ago so they may have solved that issue by now. As I said, they are getting better as time goes one, but they still have a ways to go with it.

sombo · February 20th, 2012, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by trixter

Only about 5-6. I also wonder if that was already fixed and thus omitted from the ones that I had seen. That was uploaded 4 years ago which is a long time to fix things.

That's why I mentioned that they started doing their frames differently like 1-2 years ago which I think was aimed at that issue. They are learning and improving as time goes on and they get more feedback.

choneofakind · February 21st, 2012, 01:27 PM

Give Hyosung another 5-10 years, and I think they'll be a real competitor to the big 4.

sombo · February 21st, 2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Give Hyosung another 5-10 years, and I think they'll be a real competitor to the big 4.

SlowBoyRacing · February 21st, 2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Give Hyosung another 5-10 years, and I think they'll be a real competitor to the big 4.

If you want to look at the products of the big 4, it is not just that their products tangible part is far more superior at the moment, but everything that is intangible about their product is as well.

Hyosung would need far more than 5-10 years to get close to anything of that big 4.

choneofakind · February 21st, 2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowBoyRacing

Hyosung would need far more than 5-10 years to get close to anything of that big 4.

Really? Well I guess only time will tell. They seem to be improving their product and making changes based on consumer input from what I've read online.

CynicalC · February 21st, 2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

You get what you pay for. That's all I have to say.

Yes we'll take it from you and your vast amounts of hands on experience all things motorcycle related.

SlowBoyRacing · February 22nd, 2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Really? Well I guess only time will tell. They seem to be improving their product and making changes based on consumer input from what I've read online.

Well I don't know how to answer the "really" part but I think that is just my point of view.

Lets say a company like Honda has such a huge history and pedegree that it has a special kind of following for their cars and motorcycles. I am not just talking about the 16 yearolds putting body kits on their civics, but the average consumer who buys their vehicle because they truely believe that Honda makes the best vehicles around. This comes from years of marketing, and drilling in the consumers head that they make the most reliable engines/vehicles etc...

But in terms of Hyosung, 10 years is quite a short period of time I find to get a big number of loyal customers behind you. Unless something really aweful happens with the big 4.

sombo · February 22nd, 2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowBoyRacing

Well I don't know how to answer the "really" part but I think that is just my point of view.

Lets say a company like Honda has such a huge history and pedigree that it has a special kind of following for their cars and motorcycles. I am not just talking about the 16 year old's putting body kits on their civics, but the average consumer who buys their vehicle because they truly believe that Honda makes the best vehicles around. This comes from years of marketing, and drilling in the consumers head that they make the most reliable engines/vehicles etc...

But in terms of Hyosung, 10 years is quite a short period of time I find to get a big number of loyal customers behind you. Unless something really awful happens with the big 4.

You are correct, however you are forgetting something we are basing our own opinions on. Hyundai at one point was just where Hyosung is now. Today they are getting awards for quality, reliability, and are right up there competing with makers that have been in the top running for many years longer than Hyundai has been. Hyundai learned and adapted quickly to make a good product and people saw this, so they tried them, and bought them.

I believe we are seeing the beginning of the same for Hyosung since they have well designed bikes that are only lacking in quality to be competitive. Many people these days are moving away from history and going with what's good now, what the best deal is, and what they feel is going to be their best buy.

That's just my viewpoint on it.

nickjpass · February 22nd, 2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CynicalC

Yes we'll take it from you and your vast amounts of hands on experience all things motorcycle related.

I don't need experience to know that.

February 19th, 2012, 10:40 PM	#3
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February 19th, 2012, 10:39 PM	#2
gophurr ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r SE, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: 95	If that made you giggle so will this. http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/for/2857158062.html If you want a ninja 250 style motorcycle, then by all means, have at it.

February 20th, 2012, 12:16 AM	#9
250rr ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Mark Location: Portland Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): Cheap Italian Suit. Otherwise known as Dew Kitty Posts: A lot.	Premature rust comment starts at approximately 4:00.

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choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Give Hyosung another 5-10 years, and I think they'll be a real competitor to the big 4.