May 21st, 2010, 12:53 PM | #1 |
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Where is the Oil Screen?
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I was just wondering where the Oil Screen is, please post a PIC! After dropping the Oil filter assembly out (during last oil change) I reached up and Felt around for that Oil Screen... but couldnt find it!!! Where is it at? Please post PICs! *If anyone is gonna do a Oil change soon this season! * I just wanna know so next time i change the Oil, Ill check the Oil Screen to see if I too have Metal Scraps! (my Oil filters havent had any signs of Metal in them, so far) |
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May 21st, 2010, 01:15 PM | #2 |
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couldn't find any info on ninjette... but the first entry on google yeilded this: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Checking_the_oil_screen
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May 21st, 2010, 01:31 PM | #3 |
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Here's an image to help you see where the screen is located, it's basically the #14091 housing that contains the oil drain plug. It's easy to remove the 5 bolts (8mm), drop the housing and pull the oil screen. FYI, have a 11061-0341 gasket ($5) on hand, I needed to replace the gasket on both 250's when I pulled the oil screens at 500 miles. Torque spec on the bolts for the housing is 87 in/lbs...
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May 21st, 2010, 03:08 PM | #4 | |
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I was guessing it was shown in this diagram, but wasnt 100% sure! If the oil screen Gasket doesnt tear when i take it off... think i could re-use it? - Id play it safe with a New gasket, but a backup plan if I need to re-use it. |
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May 21st, 2010, 03:26 PM | #5 |
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Don't risk it with the gasket, just change it, I paid like 3$ here at the dealer here in Canada..
but maybe you will want to clean the screen instead of replacing it, that little thing is like 20$ |
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May 21st, 2010, 06:20 PM | #6 |
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I did my own oil change and I never got around to it, nor did I know it existed. Is it a big deal if I don't every clean the screen?
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May 22nd, 2010, 05:14 AM | #7 | |
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On both my '09's the oil screens only had a few small metal particles caught in them, they mainly had slime and sludge collected most likely created by the assembly lubes and greases used during the engine build process. I probably didn't need to pull the screens but it was nice to confirm a smooth break-in and clean out the slime... |
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May 22nd, 2010, 10:34 AM | #8 |
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In about 300 KMs I'm going to do my oil change to synthetic (i'm going for Motul 7100 Ester 100% Synthetic) This will be my 4th oil change in 5000 KM, 1st @ 500, 2nd @ 2000, and 3rd @ 3500, this may sound unnecessary to you, but hey, it's my bike!
About cleaning the oil screen, well it isn't required you clean it, if it was, it would be in the periodic maintenance schedule. Should you clean it? I definitely would, anything that has the potential to restrict oil flow should be looked after, especially since many of you have just completed the break-in period and it's likely that your screen is full of slime (excess gasket residue, metal particles, or anything else that may of have come loose during the break in period) Here is a DIY video on how to do this yourself: |
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May 22nd, 2010, 10:43 AM | #9 |
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Great DIY link. Thanks.
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May 22nd, 2010, 09:19 PM | #10 |
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I will have to look into these part numbers next time I do my oil change. I will most likely change out the gaskets and order a new screen for a few bucks vs cleaning the old one.
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May 22nd, 2010, 10:02 PM | #11 |
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Thanks for the DIY!
Now I see a possible problem, If you never replace or clean away the metal pieces and stuff from there, their might be a chance some of it may jump up back into the Gears during shifting!!! I wonder what mine looks like, lol! I think ill change out the oil screen/gasket with my next oil change, just to be sure! Im WELL PAST the break-in period with over 7,200 miles atm~ I can imagine all the metal flakes chilling on my oil screen! |
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February 29th, 2012, 12:44 PM | #12 |
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I thought I would remind others that this is a good maintenance item to put on your list of things to complete. Also, here's the cheapest place I could find for the replacement gasket. $3.29 each + $1.75 shipping. http://www.powersportsplus.com/parts...1061-0341.html
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August 1st, 2023, 08:21 AM | #13 |
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Resurrecting this old thread like I'm resurrecting this old 2001 Ninja 250...
Bike had been sitting for a while, previous owner did minimum maintenance. 8000 miles, 22 years, figured while I was changing the oil might as well check the screen. Got the oil screen cover off (5 bolts - keep in mind the two that go on the popup side of the oil screen cover are slightly longer). Took some finesse. Bolts came off but the cover itself was stuck tight. Had the bike up on the center stand, felt nervous crawling under there to wiggle it. Ended up using a wooden dowel I had lying around, placed that against the side of the oil screen cover and tapped it slightly with a rubber mallet. Popped off after a few gentle hits. The cover was stuck to the underside of the block from the paper gasket which had turned to a burnt crust. It came off in pieces so reusing it was not an option. Took to scraping it with a straight razor and then 800 grit sandpaper on a flat board. No more gasket but also took off some paint. Hoping I didn't do more harm than good this way. Screen was full of mush, gasket material, other junk so worth cleaning out. These particular paper gaskets are becoming slightly more of a rarity, was able to order 2 off ebay for the reinstall and future work, waiting on them. My question if anyone is familiar would be - is there any gotchas to installing a paper gasket? Any need to grease the surfaces? Apply motor oil? Permatex liquid gasket? This particular gasket isn't seeing much pressure I'm guessing but still want to avoid possible oil drips. And since its a gasket that will come off every few oil changes want to make this reversible. Reinstall torque for the bolts is somewhere around 7 ft/lbs I believe, but something else to check. |
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August 1st, 2023, 08:47 AM | #14 |
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Usually don't need any gasket-sealer on paper gaskets.
You can use thin layer of sealant on one side only if you wish. Then gasket will come off on that side next time you remove. If both surfaces are clean and flat, you can use gasket-maker without gasket: - Toyota FIPG - Yamabond 4 (not 5 as it's silicone) - Hondabond 4 - Permatex Grey Stuff Tighten with torque-wrench in criss-cross pattern to 1/2-torque. Let sit couple hours for sealant to dry. Then tighten to final torque. NOTE: torque wrench will NOT click on these low torque settings. It'll do more of >clunk< and handle will break & give a little. |
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August 1st, 2023, 10:12 AM | #15 |
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Ah excellent advice. I recall hearing this before, about letting it sit half torqued to setup first. Fingers crossed end of week I'll have oil back in this machine and maybe take a test ride.
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