BRT TIS 87 Octane

etiainen · August 18th, 2011, 04:21 AM

Just got a BRT TIS used. I was just too annoyed with the RPM fluctuations in the heat. Install was quick and a breeze. I've attached the map controller to my left handlebar and have it set to 'ON'. From what I read here this is the less aggressive map #1, correct? My question, firstly is this map #1, and secondly is it ok to run 87 in there? I haven't heard any knocking since putting it in, I'd rather stick with 87 if I can, though not if the advanced timing is going to cause engine damage:

(I'm a commuter and don't wanna shove premium in there all the time because I'm a cheapo college student

)

dubojr1 · August 18th, 2011, 05:29 AM

"ON" is in fact map #1 and yes it is safe to run 87 octane with that map.

Snake · August 18th, 2011, 02:25 PM

Have you noticed any improvement in performance os is map #1 the normal setting?

etiainen · August 18th, 2011, 02:51 PM

Yeah, I have, mostly in the top end though. Seems to pull from 70-90 faster than before. I'm going to have my friend who also has a 250 give me his opinion on it too.

austexjg · August 18th, 2011, 03:05 PM

I haven't noticed any "butt-dyno" difference with map #1, maybe a smoother power curve. - still haven't hooked up the map button, so no idea about map #2. Anyone have an opinion on map 2?

dubojr1 · August 18th, 2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by austexjg

I haven't noticed any "butt-dyno" difference with map #1, maybe a smoother power curve. - still haven't hooked up the map button, so no idea about map #2. Anyone have an opinion on map 2?

Map #1 should be identical to the stock map. Maybe a smother power curve if anything.

Map #2 (running 93 fuel) does seem to have some noticeable differences. Bike seems to accelerate harder and faster. Throttle response seems a bit better and the bike pulls to 14k with little effort.

Kevin2109 · August 18th, 2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

Map #1 should be identical to the stock map. Maybe a smother power curve if anything.

Map #2 (running 93 fuel) does seem to have some noticeable differences. Bike seems to accelerate harder and faster. Throttle response seems a bit better and the bike pulls to 14k with little effort.

That makes me want to get it so bad!... I think its a highly over looked upgrade

Is the programmable version really worth it?

dubojr1 · August 18th, 2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2109

That makes me want to get it so bad!... I think its a highly over looked upgrade

Is the programmable version really worth it?

IMHO... not for street use. If you have plans for engine work or maybe NOS then a prograable unit would be the proper choice. I'm pretty sure the timing settings on the preprogramed model is already as efficient as possible.

Kevin2109 · August 18th, 2011, 05:05 PM

Hmmm, nos sounds good

JK ok looks like the non programmable one it is

one day I'll stop buying stuff for this bike lol

etiainen · August 18th, 2011, 05:12 PM

I'm going to try out map #2, when I'm not cheap enough to put in 93

CThunder-blue · August 19th, 2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by etiainen

I'm going to try out map #2, when I'm not cheap enough to put in 93

Not sure where you live but premium is only 20 cents more/ gallon here. Even at a 4 gal fill up, it's an extra $.80. That's cheaper than a cheeseburger. Unless you're living on stale cereal and water, you may not even notice the difference. The extra bump in power is worth it to me. Keep in mind my bike is jetted and needles shimmed, which also makes a difference.

etiainen · August 20th, 2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CThunder-blue

Not sure where you live but premium is only 20 cents more/ gallon here. Even at a 4 gal fill up, it's an extra $.80. That's cheaper than a cheeseburger. Unless you're living on stale cereal and water, you may not even notice the difference. The extra bump in power is worth it to me. Keep in mind my bike is jetted and needles shimmed, which also makes a difference.

LOL..I know, I'm just messing around. I really just forgot twice to put in 93. Next fill-up I'll try and remember. I think getting 87 is really just habit now

I'm not shimmed though, I guess I'll see if there's a difference or not next fill-up. I've been meaning to shim this past month, but I've been way too busy/lazy to pull out the fairings and fuel tank.

choneofakind · August 22nd, 2011, 08:45 PM

anyone know if a BRT tis would work on a pregen? I know some members have used a pregen cdi to correct the newgen rpm indicator issues. does it would both ways?

CThunder-blue · August 23rd, 2011, 07:53 AM

The pregen's CDI has more advanced timing on it's ignition than the new gen. Unless you need something programmable, I don't think it's necessary. Other than that, I'm sure if you rewired the bike, it could be used.

August 18th, 2011, 05:05 PM	#9
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	Hmmm, nos sounds good JK ok looks like the non programmable one it is one day I'll stop buying stuff for this bike lol __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

August 23rd, 2011, 07:53 AM	#14
CThunder-blue ModMy250.com Name: Tri Location: St, Louis Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.	The pregen's CDI has more advanced timing on it's ignition than the new gen. Unless you need something programmable, I don't think it's necessary. Other than that, I'm sure if you rewired the bike, it could be used. __________________________________________________ The www.ModMy250.com guy

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August 18th, 2011, 04:21 AM	#1
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	BRT TIS 87 Octane Just got a BRT TIS used. I was just too annoyed with the RPM fluctuations in the heat. Install was quick and a breeze. I've attached the map controller to my left handlebar and have it set to 'ON'. From what I read here this is the less aggressive map #1, correct? My question, firstly is this map #1, and secondly is it ok to run 87 in there? I haven't heard any knocking since putting it in, I'd rather stick with 87 if I can, though not if the advanced timing is going to cause engine damage: (I'm a commuter and don't wanna shove premium in there all the time because I'm a cheapo college student)

August 18th, 2011, 05:29 AM	#2
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	"ON" is in fact map #1 and yes it is safe to run 87 octane with that map. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 18th, 2011, 02:25 PM	#3
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Have you noticed any improvement in performance os is map #1 the normal setting?

August 18th, 2011, 02:51 PM	#4
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Yeah, I have, mostly in the top end though. Seems to pull from 70-90 faster than before. I'm going to have my friend who also has a 250 give me his opinion on it too.

August 18th, 2011, 03:05 PM	#5
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	I haven't noticed any "butt-dyno" difference with map #1, maybe a smoother power curve. - still haven't hooked up the map button, so no idea about map #2. Anyone have an opinion on map 2?

August 18th, 2011, 05:12 PM	#10
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	I'm going to try out map #2, when I'm not cheap enough to put in 93

August 22nd, 2011, 08:45 PM	#13
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	anyone know if a BRT tis would work on a pregen? I know some members have used a pregen cdi to correct the newgen rpm indicator issues. does it would both ways?