ATGATT??? why not WYGOD???

ryu hayabusa · October 3rd, 2010, 05:33 PM

atgatt, it's such a silly acronym. i propose an alternative:
W.Y.G.O.D. - Wear Your Gear Or Die
think about it, everytime you see a squid, look heavenward and just say "Why God?!?!?" lol
your thoughts please.

ASecretNinja · October 3rd, 2010, 05:55 PM

While I like your creativity, I prefer ATGATT because it's simply a statement. While I know that when you say WYGOD you aren't necessarily telling someone to wear their own gear, but it could be taken that way. I may have to think of it more, but since the first time I heard ATGATT, it really resonated with me.

Now maybe you can work on an alternative term for chicken strips. I've always thought that was kind of stupid for some reason lol.

edbro · October 3rd, 2010, 06:41 PM

You can still die even if you're wearing all your gear. Gear only minimizes damage, it doesn't eliminate it.

Flashmonkey · October 4th, 2010, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edbro

You can still die even if you're wearing all your gear. Gear only minimizes damage, it doesn't eliminate it.

This. Also being a squid isn't limited to those not wearing gear either. It's a universal term for general asshattery.

addy126 · October 4th, 2010, 08:29 AM

I like it..... I appreciate your tongue 'n cheek....lord knows it would be the last thought runnin thru my head if I took "a short cut" and things did'nt go quite right.

Reswob · October 4th, 2010, 10:03 AM

Why don't you just not worry about what other people do that has no bearing on you...

dubojr1 · October 4th, 2010, 10:24 AM

Rayme · October 4th, 2010, 12:18 PM

I'm pretty tired of that ATGATT preaching. Anyone going on two wheels knows about how people die from accidents.

Blackwidow · October 4th, 2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayme

I'm pretty tired of that ATGATT preaching. Anyone going on two wheels knows about how people die from accidents.

A-men!!!! People riding are grown a$$ adults, they know the consequences. I say let people do as they please, its their life, not mine.

as for the OP...just cuz you wear gear doesn't make you invinsible...it just helps keep your skin intact with your body. lol but i see your point in what you're saying.

backinthesaddleagain · October 4th, 2010, 12:45 PM

Was on a group ride yesterday and made it my point to stick with the leader of the ride (who rails the backroads on a Yam 250 WRX) and a couple other very experienced and smooth riders. A couple blind and downhill corners on the ride reminded me that no matter how much gear I wear its not going to save me from the rock walls on the right or a car crossing the yellow stripe on the left. Now I had everything but protective pants on, but the best safety item is your your mind. After the 80 mile ride I was happy that I kept the leader and one other guy in site as it improved my line choice, but I really think I over-pushed myself and will be happy to ride mid pack next time.

kkim · October 4th, 2010, 12:50 PM

I'll continue preaching ATGATT, but I fully understand your right to not listen. It's as easy as putting someone on your ignore list. Really easy

This forum is about sharing and learning from one another. Many of the new riders who come here have no clue about what is "proper" and perhaps being reminded may help point them in the right direction.

Alex · October 4th, 2010, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwidow

A-men!!!! People riding are grown a$$ adults, they know the consequences. I say let people do as they please, its their life, not mine.

I agree up to a point, but not entirely. The issue is that people, especially newer riders, may not in fact know the consequences. There are new riders on this site who are completely unaware that motorcycling gear such as boots, gloves, armor, etc. actually exists and can serve some good in a crash compared to tennis shoes and gardening gloves. There are new riders with no local mentors who have no idea about things like earplugs, raingear, how to fit a helmet, and any number of other things that become second nature after you've been exposed to the sport for awhile, but are foreign concepts ahead of time.

People are always free to make whatever choices they like, no matter how poorly thought through. But I do find it valuable for sites like this to continue to at least try to let people know about what's out there, and what conclusions experienced motorcyclists have come to for their own gear choices.

backinthesaddleagain · October 4th, 2010, 01:11 PM

Wear Your Gear Or Die leaves out to many lessdrastic things. Short of death (way short) good clothing prevents (or lessens road rash, maybe even a broken elbow or knee cap), eye protection keeps that big flying from blinding you, gloves keep that pebble from a car from making your hand come off the grip when it hits you. Friend of mine (HD rider, and I don't want to stereotype) wears no helmet, fingerless gloves, and then complains about the cold on a great 60 degree riding day.

rockNroll · October 4th, 2010, 01:18 PM

Motorcycle gear just looks too f'ing cool to not wear it

Blackwidow · October 4th, 2010, 01:20 PM

I completely agree, it was thanks to this site i understood the value of protective gear, without this site, i'd probably wear daisy dukes and tank tops, it was the image i had in mind prior to getting a bike. I came across a guy that said he never wears protective gear, not even a helmet, because its not a law in pennsylvania. Anyway, i said my piece by saying it only adds protection and you should consider getting gear. He said no he doesn't need it. I did my part, but i'm not going to go out of my way to help him understand the importance, thats why i say everyone riding are grown ass adults. i just pray for the people that don't gear up, cuz IF they happen to get into the slightest accident, its going to hurt..big time!

Sailariel · October 4th, 2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

I'll continue preaching ATGATT, but I fully understand your right to not listen. It's as easy as putting someone on your ignore list. Really easy

This forum is about sharing and learning from one another. Many of the new riders who come here have no clue about what is "proper" and perhaps being reminded may help point them in the right direction.

I agree with you on ATGATT. I would not even entertain riding without protective gear. I also am a member of United Bikers of Maine, and their slogan is "Let those who ride decide". Sound contradictory? Not in the least. We are against innane laws that are supposed to protect us from ourselves. We are supposedly rational people who can make rational choices. I choose to wear protective gear on even the hottest days---I would like to keep my skin. UBM is a good club--Mostly Cruiser riders, mostly helmetless, etc.--but that is their choice. They do a lot of good stuff like fund raisers for charities toys for kids at Christmas. I do have a problem with legislators who try to legislate common sense. I do not have a problem with mandatory Motorcycle Safety Courses before an individual is allowed to ride on the street. We have mandatory courses for Hunting, Bow Hunting, in some states boating. Every sport has its discrete skills, and these skills should be learned beforehand (That's sensible legislation) What happens afterward is an individual's choice. We all hope that people make rational choices.

tapdiggy · October 4th, 2010, 01:40 PM

Aerostitch or GTFO.

I'm sorry; I just think every thread about gear needs this extremist viewpoint, real or not.

backinthesaddleagain · October 4th, 2010, 01:43 PM

^^ so Alpinestars is no good?

Flashmonkey · October 4th, 2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

^^ so Alpinestars is no good?

It's fine...provided that all you do is stand around a starbucks

I'm kidding. I actually don't fit very well into A* gear, but I love the quality of their stuff!

That's another thing...fit is very important. Not just to keep armour and whatever in place, but in terms of comfort as well. I cannot, to this day, use any off the shelf riding pants as they hinder my ability to move my legs while riding. So I just strap on as much armour under my jeans as I can find hahaha.

Newbies should definitely be told to strap up with everything they have. Gearing up properly is about being smart. Obviously, being smart requires the right kind of experience...and if you have none...it's better to go overboard.

backinthesaddleagain · October 4th, 2010, 01:54 PM

haha - Starbucks. Life is easier on a HD. All you have to do is buy a tshirt at the local dealer for each town you visit.

kkim · October 4th, 2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapdiggy

Aerostitch or GTFO.

I'm sorry; I just think every thread about gear needs this extremist viewpoint, real or not.

extremist????

addy126 · October 4th, 2010, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

Friend of mine (HD rider, and I don't want to stereotype) wears no helmet, fingerless gloves, and then complains about the cold on a great 60 degree riding day.

Lol... yup that they do say with teeth chattering and all.....

Alex · October 4th, 2010, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsketch

If we all looked into our own back yards for things that could be corrected or done better in our lives we probably would not have time to make idiotic threads like this one.

Like, we could start by being less intensely negative on internet boards, for example?

ally99 · October 4th, 2010, 04:20 PM

As someone who loves plays on words, I love WYGOD? LOL! Creative!

Alex · October 4th, 2010, 04:29 PM

How about WYGOD, OUCHIE!

(wear your gear or die, or undergo character-building health impacting events)

ally99 · October 4th, 2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

How about WYGOD, OUCHIE!

(wear your gear or die, or undergo character-building health impacting events)

LMAO! Impressive, Alex!!

Flashmonkey · October 4th, 2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

How about WYGOD, OUCHIE!

(wear your gear or die, or undergo character-building health impacting events)

LOL that's pretty good.

tapdiggy · October 5th, 2010, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

extremist????

I was admittedly vague there. The intent was to express the view of some "real motorcyclists" that you must immediately buy a one-piece touring suit as soon as you buy a bike, and you must wear it religiously while on said bike. Furthermore, it mustn't be made by a "poser" brand for "squids". I have actually seen this sentiment put forth by a (very) few folks, hence the extremist label. Like I said, I find it amusing.

kkim · October 5th, 2010, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tapdiggy

I was admittedly vague there. The intent was to express the view of some "real motorcyclists" that you must immediately buy a one-piece touring suit as soon as you buy a bike, and you must wear it religiously while on said bike. Furthermore, it mustn't be made by a "poser" brand for "squids". I have actually seen this sentiment put forth by a (very) few folks, hence the extremist label. Like I said, I find it amusing.

ah... you mean the elitists/snobs.

tapdiggy · October 5th, 2010, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

ah... you mean the elitists/snobs.

Yes, that.

ryu hayabusa · November 3rd, 2010, 10:16 PM

jesus ppl it was humor at best. dont get your panties in a wad. too many uptight nerds on here. GTFO

dubojr1 · November 4th, 2010, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryu hayabusa

jesus ppl it was humor at best. dont get your panties in a wad. too many uptight nerds on here. GTFO

onetruevibe · November 4th, 2010, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

How about WYGOD, OUCHIE!

(wear your gear or die, or undergo character-building health impacting events)

I think this is the nature of response that the OP was hoping for.

OUCHIE, FTW!

bob138 · November 4th, 2010, 07:15 AM

I preach ATGATT only because I generally like people and don't want to see them in unnecessary pain.

Bob

ryu hayabusa · November 5th, 2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

your just sad cause it probable applies to you...

ryu hayabusa · November 5th, 2010, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kawboyCAFE

how about W.W.H.P.D.? ya know, "What Would Harry Potter Do".

best one yet!

Nemesis · November 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM

How about G-up?

Havok · November 5th, 2010, 04:56 PM

My theory on gear is the same as bikes. There is a danger riding, we hear about it all the time, people tell us not to ride we do it anyway as we know the risks and accept them. A person that decides to not wear gear at all is doing the same, they know the risks and accept them. The only exception is if a person doesn't know that all this gear exists, if that is the case then they were foolish to accept the risk of riding without doing the leg work or research on it.

I'll be honest I do not wear riding pants except for dedicated riding or the twisties, it's a matter convience for my commute. For me the risk is worth the convince, yours may be diffrent. Thank god we live where we can make that personal choice.

headshrink · November 6th, 2010, 03:19 PM

I think pain might be a better message than death.

Bueller999 · November 6th, 2010, 04:02 PM

These threads make me laugh, for a very short time. I have been riding one form or another of bike for 42 years and have worn everything, and near nothing. We don't have a helmet law in CO, thanks be we still have the right to choose something for ourselves. I wear a helmet 98% of the time but I do enjoy riding my loud ass Buell sometimes without, I also ride in jeans, running shoes and a T once in awhile. I must be a squid?
I really don't care what you wear and you shouldn't let my choices bother you. It is risk assessment and acceptance of the consequences. When I hit the hills or go to the track I have full leathers, when I go dirt biking I have full gear. When I teach people to ride or talk about it to others, I will promote as much gear as they can afford but I don't slam them or call people names because they don't want to wear it either. In the same breath, I don't like to stereotype riders because of the bike they enjoy.

October 3rd, 2010, 05:33 PM	#1
ryu hayabusa ninjette.org member Name: ion Location: central oregon Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 ninja 250r Posts: 119	ATGATT??? why not WYGOD??? atgatt, it's such a silly acronym. i propose an alternative: W.Y.G.O.D. - Wear Your Gear Or Die think about it, everytime you see a squid, look heavenward and just say "Why God?!?!?" lol your thoughts please. __________________________________________________ never argue with an idiot. it only brings you down to his level, and then he beats you, because he has more experience.

October 4th, 2010, 10:03 AM	#6
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October 4th, 2010, 10:24 AM	#7
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October 4th, 2010, 12:18 PM	#8
Rayme ninjette.org guru Name: Remy Location: Moncton Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '04 sv650s Posts: 438	I'm pretty tired of that ATGATT preaching. Anyone going on two wheels knows about how people die from accidents. __________________________________________________ There's 2 types of people in this world, those who complain and those who act.

October 4th, 2010, 01:18 PM	#14
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	Motorcycle gear just looks too f'ing cool to not wear it __________________________________________________ Always get a second opinion because most of these people are makin' this stuff up

October 3rd, 2010, 05:55 PM	#2
ASecretNinja ATGATT Squid Killer Name: Chad Location: So. Cal Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '06 CBR600 Posts: 189	While I like your creativity, I prefer ATGATT because it's simply a statement. While I know that when you say WYGOD you aren't necessarily telling someone to wear their own gear, but it could be taken that way. I may have to think of it more, but since the first time I heard ATGATT, it really resonated with me. Now maybe you can work on an alternative term for chicken strips. I've always thought that was kind of stupid for some reason lol.

October 3rd, 2010, 06:41 PM	#3
edbro ninjette.org member Name: Ed Location: NJ Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250r Posts: 157	You can still die even if you're wearing all your gear. Gear only minimizes damage, it doesn't eliminate it.

October 4th, 2010, 08:29 AM	#5
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	I like it..... I appreciate your tongue 'n cheek....lord knows it would be the last thought runnin thru my head if I took "a short cut" and things did'nt go quite right.

October 4th, 2010, 12:45 PM	#10
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	Was on a group ride yesterday and made it my point to stick with the leader of the ride (who rails the backroads on a Yam 250 WRX) and a couple other very experienced and smooth riders. A couple blind and downhill corners on the ride reminded me that no matter how much gear I wear its not going to save me from the rock walls on the right or a car crossing the yellow stripe on the left. Now I had everything but protective pants on, but the best safety item is your your mind. After the 80 mile ride I was happy that I kept the leader and one other guy in site as it improved my line choice, but I really think I over-pushed myself and will be happy to ride mid pack next time.

October 4th, 2010, 12:50 PM	#11
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I'll continue preaching ATGATT, but I fully understand your right to not listen. It's as easy as putting someone on your ignore list. Really easy This forum is about sharing and learning from one another. Many of the new riders who come here have no clue about what is "proper" and perhaps being reminded may help point them in the right direction.

October 4th, 2010, 01:11 PM	#13
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	Wear Your Gear Or Die leaves out to many lessdrastic things. Short of death (way short) good clothing prevents (or lessens road rash, maybe even a broken elbow or knee cap), eye protection keeps that big flying from blinding you, gloves keep that pebble from a car from making your hand come off the grip when it hits you. Friend of mine (HD rider, and I don't want to stereotype) wears no helmet, fingerless gloves, and then complains about the cold on a great 60 degree riding day.

October 4th, 2010, 01:20 PM	#15
Blackwidow ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paulette Location: . Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I completely agree, it was thanks to this site i understood the value of protective gear, without this site, i'd probably wear daisy dukes and tank tops, it was the image i had in mind prior to getting a bike. I came across a guy that said he never wears protective gear, not even a helmet, because its not a law in pennsylvania. Anyway, i said my piece by saying it only adds protection and you should consider getting gear. He said no he doesn't need it. I did my part, but i'm not going to go out of my way to help him understand the importance, thats why i say everyone riding are grown ass adults. i just pray for the people that don't gear up, cuz IF they happen to get into the slightest accident, its going to hurt..big time! __________________________________________________ sometimes I aim to please, but mostly I shoot to kill

October 4th, 2010, 01:40 PM	#17
tapdiggy Humble Observer Name: Truong Location: Augusta, Maine Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Yamaha XT250 Posts: 612	Aerostitch or GTFO. I'm sorry; I just think every thread about gear needs this extremist viewpoint, real or not. __________________________________________________ Everything I post is "IN MY HONEST OPINION". Why is "Parking Lot Enduro" not a thing?

October 4th, 2010, 01:43 PM	#18
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	^^ so Alpinestars is no good?

October 4th, 2010, 01:54 PM	#20
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	haha - Starbucks. Life is easier on a HD. All you have to do is buy a tshirt at the local dealer for each town you visit.

October 4th, 2010, 04:20 PM	#24
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	As someone who loves plays on words, I love WYGOD? LOL! Creative! __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

October 4th, 2010, 04:29 PM	#25
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November 3rd, 2010, 10:16 PM	#31
ryu hayabusa ninjette.org member Name: ion Location: central oregon Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 ninja 250r Posts: 119	jesus ppl it was humor at best. dont get your panties in a wad. too many uptight nerds on here. GTFO __________________________________________________ never argue with an idiot. it only brings you down to his level, and then he beats you, because he has more experience.

November 4th, 2010, 07:15 AM	#34
bob138 ninjette.org member Name: Bob Location: Centreville va Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 1991 EX500 , 2009 250r Posts: 130	I preach ATGATT only because I generally like people and don't want to see them in unnecessary pain. Bob __________________________________________________ My EX500 Build My 09 250R Build

November 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM	#37
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	How about G-up?

November 5th, 2010, 04:56 PM	#38
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	My theory on gear is the same as bikes. There is a danger riding, we hear about it all the time, people tell us not to ride we do it anyway as we know the risks and accept them. A person that decides to not wear gear at all is doing the same, they know the risks and accept them. The only exception is if a person doesn't know that all this gear exists, if that is the case then they were foolish to accept the risk of riding without doing the leg work or research on it. I'll be honest I do not wear riding pants except for dedicated riding or the twisties, it's a matter convience for my commute. For me the risk is worth the convince, yours may be diffrent. Thank god we live where we can make that personal choice.

November 6th, 2010, 03:19 PM	#39
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I think pain might be a better message than death. __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

November 6th, 2010, 04:02 PM	#40
Bueller999 Oldie but a goodie Name: David Location: Aurora, CO Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 650r, 06 SV 650 race, 08 250r race, 03 Buell XB9s, 01 KTM 300 EXC Posts: 131	These threads make me laugh, for a very short time. I have been riding one form or another of bike for 42 years and have worn everything, and near nothing. We don't have a helmet law in CO, thanks be we still have the right to choose something for ourselves. I wear a helmet 98% of the time but I do enjoy riding my loud ass Buell sometimes without, I also ride in jeans, running shoes and a T once in awhile. I must be a squid? I really don't care what you wear and you shouldn't let my choices bother you. It is risk assessment and acceptance of the consequences. When I hit the hills or go to the track I have full leathers, when I go dirt biking I have full gear. When I teach people to ride or talk about it to others, I will promote as much gear as they can afford but I don't slam them or call people names because they don't want to wear it either. In the same breath, I don't like to stereotype riders because of the bike they enjoy.

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