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Old January 4th, 2011, 06:13 PM   #1
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does *anyone* peruse ninja250.org

they used to be pretty decent, back in the day. now it's seemingly a bunch of old cantankerous old farts that won't tolerate anyone that has to undergo a proctologist exam once a year, and may not be all that familiar with their new lil' ninja 250.... i've quit them, and have gotten a lot of people to boycott them, since they banished me for asking a simple question.

yes. this is *THE* friendliest and best ninja250 site on the web. period. AND, since i've been frequenting here.... their site has become a parody of itself. check it out, and try to engage w/them, if you want to see what frustrated old farts sound like.

it's quite hilarious, on multiple levels.

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Old January 4th, 2011, 07:07 PM   #2
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I agree with you that this is the friendliest, most mature 250 site, but they are still a great source of information. I don't think it's a great idea to come over here and bash them, as we all have teh same love, and that's our little 250s.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #3
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That site seems to not be very inclusive nor friendly which is sad. Site is tedious to use and read. Not really user friendly.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #4
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I can't say what the site members are like, as I find the forum's format to be almost un-readable. It needs updating.

The monthly magazine, however, I liked very much.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 09:47 PM   #5
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/moved to off-topic.

I tried to interact over there years back, but couldn't get past the format. Haven't been over in quite awhile. We do send folks to links there from time to time for their tech wiki, it is a valued spot for pre-gen info, much of which still applies to the current-gen bikes.

To their credit, for people who aren't enthused about their format, they list all of the other main ninja 250-related sites right on that same page, with us here at ninjette.org at the top:

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/About_our_forum_layout
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Old January 4th, 2011, 10:01 PM   #6
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Another format snob here. I was fine with the content but found the format unreadable and thus wound up here.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 07:14 AM   #7
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Yeah, I'm there as much as I'm here, though I post here more often. On their site there has been much discussion about their format, the upshot being that the site administrator likes it and isn't going to change it. IMHO I think he keeps that format mainly because it's not this format; in other words, to be contrary and nothing more.

They rely on cookies to keep track on your machine what responses are new since the last time you visited; the new posts are marked with a very tiny yellow square. If something goes wonky with that cookie system, on either your end or theirs, then poof, there's no freaking way to tell what posts are new and what aren't. Also, you have to be logged in (which requires registration, obviously) for the cookie system to work. Also, if you follow the site from more than one machine you spend a lot of time trying to figure out what's new.

The end result is that it's inordinately inconvenient and needlessly difficult to navigate or keep track of what's going on in a given thread, especially if it has more than a handfull of replies.

Though they do have a wealth of information in their FAQ, the forums are not going to last. Maybe that's what the admins want. I dunno. I gave up trying to get them to see the light long ago. I hope they survive mainly because of the FAQ resources, but I don't think they'll ever be more than a marginal player because of that damn stupid format.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 07:45 AM   #8
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I'm also there http://forums.ninja250.org/ quite a bit, more so than here actually. I actually bought my 250 because of reading their site and the information there. I don't mind their format, it works fine for me. Especially on a slow modem connection as I have at home. As others have said their FAQ is very good and I occasionally point others to it when they are requesting help or info on a subject concerning the Ninja 250 or being a new rider. The same goes for their classifieds area. Is it different from here, yes, but that's not a problem for me at least....
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Old January 5th, 2011, 08:11 AM   #9
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Old January 5th, 2011, 08:38 AM   #10
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A scientific approach clearly shows ninjette.org to be better.

People - Ninjette in a landslide.
Wiki - Ninja250 in a landslide. For now.
Forum Format - Ninjette in a landslide.
Forum Content - Ninjette.
Name - Ninja250 gets the nod. I thought Ninjette was for female riders only on my first visit.
Old Gen Focus - Ninja250.
New Gen Focus - Ninjette.
More Chicks - Ninjette.

Scientifically proven, ninjette.org is better by a 5-3 victory.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 09:03 AM   #11
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People - Ninjette in a landslide.
Wiki - Ninja250 in a landslide. For now.
Forum Format - Ninjette in a landslide.
Forum Content - Ninjette.
Name - Ninja250 gets the nod. I thought Ninjette was for female riders only on my first visit.
Old Gen Focus - Ninja250.
New Gen Focus - Ninjette.
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Scientifically proven, ninjette.org is better by a 5-3 victory.
All you needed for proof was the last item on your list
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Old January 5th, 2011, 09:17 AM   #12
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I've never posted there, but I browsed their forums a few times before I found this site. The format just frustrates me to death, its super inconvenient.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 09:34 AM   #13
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I have posted there and was actually there before I found this site. That is the reason I came here. If you ask one question the admins dont like they delete your whole post, If you misspell something you are stupid, and if you ask about a topic that has been previously discussed dont even try to get an answer. The majority of them are "better than you" and "smarter than you" they have a decent faq but thats it.

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Old January 5th, 2011, 11:26 AM   #14
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Old January 5th, 2011, 11:49 AM   #15
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Folks are welcome to use any of the domains listed in this thread if it makes them feel better.

I wanted to make sure the main domain would still be relevant if Kawi ever changed the displacement of this bike, so I was worried about having 250 as part of the main domain. The only widely used nickname for our bike model is ninjette, so that was what I went with early on. We have the .org and .net, but someone in Spain has been parked on the ninjette.com address for years, with no content as of yet.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 12:43 PM   #16
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I find it amusing how many people on many forums bash the layout or the mods, but when someone needs tech advice the link that gets posted goes to *their* wiki. And to be fair, they have a **** ton of info on the new gen, and they have calmed WAAAAY down in the last year or so.

I think it's more about what a person is looking for in a forum. I like their format, since you can see which replies go with which post wihtou having to quote someone.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #17
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I dunno Bob, I can't remember a single link that was new-gen specific that ever went to that site. Their voluminous wiki still only has 10 new-gen specific entries (link), and their tech forum on the new-gen has half the posts that we have here, between the tech & farkles section specific to the new-gen. Not to mention the 105+ DIY threads for the new-gen linked in our sticky right here. People are free to choose wherever they want to spend their time, these are free sites after all, and using one isn't ever an exclusion of the other anyway. The only quibble I'd have is if people still believe that the only place to go for tech is there and for fun is here. I'm sure there's some fun over there, and I know there's a whole bunch of tech over here, although admittedly, it is biased toward the new-gen machines.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #18
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Alex, It may be somewhat biased toward the new-gens, but, you know, nobody seems to object. We have a lot of first-gen people participating with some dynamite insights. This is a well rounded forum. Hell, you even put up with an old f--t who rides an NT-700V. It doesn't get more inclusive than that. You are doing a fantastic job with this forum. There is NO FORUM on the internet, to my knowledge, that has such a sense of family. THAT, in my view, is an accomplishment other forums should look at as an ideal. You set a standard like the ZX-10R. Now everybody can play catch up.
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Ther are other Ninja 250 sites? I have'nt checked out any other sites besides NewNija, but they never approved my thing to be a member. Guess i'm not cool enuff.
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Scotty, I didn't make the grade either. Didn't make the grade for the NT-700V net either. Really makes no difference since I plan on getting a 250R again when my back heals (Doc says about a year to a year and a half--maybe less with PT) I plan to keep the NT-700 as well. Nothing wrong with having two bikes. I do have 6 bicycles.
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Scotty, I didn't make the grade either. Didn't make the grade for the NT-700V net either. Really makes no difference since I plan on getting a 250R again when my back heals (Doc says about a year to a year and a half--maybe less with PT) I plan to keep the NT-700 as well. Nothing wrong with having two bikes. I do have 6 bicycles.
Right! Two bikes would be fun! Im possibility getting a Kawasaki Vulcan 500 in the spring time. So I will have two cool bikes to myself(and wife ) I visit this forum more than the local one where I live.
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Scotty, I didn't make the grade either. Didn't make the grade for the NT-700V net either. Really makes no difference since I plan on getting a 250R again when my back heals (Doc says about a year to a year and a half--maybe less with PT) I plan to keep the NT-700 as well. Nothing wrong with having two bikes. I do have 6 bicycles.

You are good enough the new ninja forum admin was stagnet for a while. NOW they have new admins and a different group of people running. They are approving folks now. My husband and I were lucky enough to meet in person a couple of members last summer and they stayed with us for a fantastic week of fun. So check them out. Add it to your list. On the surface it seems silly but deep down there are some good peeps that frequent both nn and ninjette. Just wanted to clarify you are good enough, there was just a shut down of admin for a while. Which frustrated us all.
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You can change the format to be viewed the same as ninjette.org. I did, and began treating it like any other forum, bringing up a new topic and then replying to each post in my thread.

I made one thread and responded to a few people in it and they banned me just because I felt that Kawi could have done a better job communicating the drop in MPG for the J-series (the spec wasn't anywhere on their website until they made Kawasaki.com/mpg). They really aren't very inviting.
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You can change the format to be viewed the same as ninjette.org. I did, and began treating it like any other forum, bringing up a new topic and then replying to each post in my thread.
I think they used to have that option, but I'm not sure if they still do. Frugal or Tony might have more details on if/when any changes were made. But if I go in my options there now, I don't see any option to change the view any longer.

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One of their admins joined this site awhile back, if folks do have questions about that site he can be reached directly at Ian.
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Ninja250.org no longer allows "flat" viewing, as it didn't interact well with the rest of the forum.

Actually, this line from the FAQ pretty much says it all....

"Everything about the site at ninja250.org is purposeful and intentional. Our admins have been tweaking it for the past eight years. It's exactly as we like it. It isn't going to change." And I thought I was old.

They go on to list a variety of other forums you're welcome to try.

That said, I really like the magazine, and continue to read it.
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I was never approved on that site either, I thought. I never received an email from them stating whether or not I was accepted. But a few days later I tried to log in and was successful, so you may try that. But there is very little traffic over there, so I haven't been back. I'm happy here
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Yup, sometimes it's pretty quiet over there. But I figure it's 'cause we're all out ridin'...
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Ah you just don't spend enough hours of the day on the internet...


I found the ninja250.org forums terribly annoying to read. I don't read reply titles in flat view, there's no point. So to read only reply titles 50% of the time with the (n/t) thing, then have to click to expand other thread replies it's just too inconsistent. Not to mention the usernames and dates coming after the reply title really make me feel OCD or something.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 12:11 AM   #31
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I tried posting a DIY on HID conversion over there and was met with quite the attitude, called names & sworn at. Apparently they prefer stock headlights. Dropped them like a bad habit and came here finding a much friendlier place.
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I found this forum from a basic search when researching the Ninja 250 before I purchased. Read a bit and then bought my 250...only been posting and reading here, however I have looked over the ninja250.org wiki as it has a good amount of information.

I do appreciate the group here and the content and positive attitudes you find here, especially since I am a newb to being on two wheels instead of four~

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I'm a lurker there and I see spooph, KURT and others posting there quite a bit. Some good info, decent site. Here is better, but newninja is worth checking out.
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I fit in better with Cantankerous old Farts

250.org is certainly more old-gen, but that's what I got.

On the whole they are a bunch of fine people. They have a fine tech section, and they do expect users to at least try to find answers for themselves, but generally, you will get pointed in the right direction.

The good folks over there don't really appreciate strangers showing up in their house and telling them their carpet is ugly. Really, who does?

Further, truly, they don't tolerate persistent dumb-assedness. At all.

Most of my dumb-assedness has not been persistant enough to get me banned...though I may have taken a few punches...'s'okay with me.

I like both sites, but I post there more, cause I actually like the no-avatar attitude, and I prefer their format. ('course I'd probably still be rocking win95 if I could, old fart that I am...)

It's all about the bike on both sites, and that's all good.
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