March 14th, 2010, 01:40 AM | #1 |
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SHINTO Angled Handlebar Risers
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HANDLEBAR RISERS (Angled) CNC Machined These Fit under your OEM Handle bars, raising your handle bars a little, while tilting them for that Racing performance Feel. Retail: $80 Shipped These are available in all the usual colors, and special color requests can be Anodied to order. Any Questions, just ask.. |
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March 18th, 2010, 12:36 PM | #2 |
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Would love to see these installed.
So if I understand it correctly, these angle the grips downwards without moving the bars down and away from you like clip-ons do? I like the idea of being able to tuck down more easily, without my hands going into a "praying hamster" position. I've thought about clip-ons, but I'm a road rider only and like my ergonomics pretty much as they are. I question the long-term comfort of clip-ons. |
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March 18th, 2010, 10:59 PM | #3 | |
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the angle gives you a more racing feel, without having the clip ons. I have had some on my bike a week, it brings me more in tune with the bike, more comfatable when leaning into turns, and good for tucking.. it was strange the first time out, but it really grew on me after an hour and i prefere it compaired to the stock angle. here are some pics. ( i was just taking them for a test run to see how they feel, but have decided to keep, so i will be getting them Anodied to match.) Its hard to capture the exact angle in the pics, but there Really is a BIG difference. WITHOUT: WITH: here you can see the difference, 1 on 1 off. Hope this helps you.! |
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March 19th, 2010, 04:04 AM | #4 |
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Indeed it does!
Available in black for the same $80 shipped? Do you accept PayPal? |
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March 19th, 2010, 04:27 AM | #5 |
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ThaiNinja, I realize that English is your second language so for anyone reading this thread permit me to clarify what these appear to do.
They don't raise the bars up. What they do is rotate the bars so they are less horizontal than stock. This has the effect of lowering the grip, even though the bar mounts are indeed a bit higher. To see this, compare the two rear views and focus on the right hand grip relative to the mirror. Unlike clip-ons, these do not move the bars forward or down. They do look like a nice ergonomic tweak! |
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March 19th, 2010, 04:33 AM | #6 | |
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My original post said "These Fit under your OEM Handle bars, raising your handle bars a little, while tilting them for that Racing performance Feel" Although if that wasnt clear, thankyou for clearing that up for me |
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March 19th, 2010, 04:41 AM | #7 | |
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Anyway.. Yes, you can have these in Black (takes a few days to get them Anodied) i do accept Paypal, althought i do prefere Western Union & Wire Transfere. if you want to use paypal, you will need to pay the fee's, and also wait for the funds to be released to me. (aprx 5-7days) Paypal so slow.. Western Union is Instant Delivery & Wire Transfere 1-2days. much faster. Overall, if you chose paypal, there is a longer wait due to them being so slow.. Hope this helps..! |
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March 19th, 2010, 05:37 AM | #8 | |
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Occupational hazard... I'm a writer by trade. The thing about "raising your bars a little" is a bit misleading, since while it does raise the mounts up (and therefore the inner part of the bar), the part of the bar that you hold -- the grip -- is actually lower. Obviously I don't have first-hand experience, but this is clear to me from the pictures. In other words, rotating the bar does raise one end a little, but at the same time it lowers the other end. |
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March 19th, 2010, 05:39 AM | #9 | |
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March 19th, 2010, 05:42 AM | #10 |
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I assume they need longer bolts. Are those included?
No charge for anodizing? Please PM me the details of all payment methods including PayPal. |
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March 19th, 2010, 05:46 AM | #11 |
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Anodie costs $10.
Yes, they come with the needed bolts i will PM you now. |
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March 19th, 2010, 08:21 AM | #12 |
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Ordered these, will post a review and feedback when they arrive.
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March 20th, 2010, 12:50 PM | #13 |
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this is going to help my wrists incredibly! can't wait for a review
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March 22nd, 2010, 11:49 AM | #14 |
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Pretty interested in this review too
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March 22nd, 2010, 12:02 PM | #15 |
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I won't do a writeup right away. In past professional lives I've done product reviews as part of my job, and one thing I learned to be wary of is placebo effect. It's easy to notice a difference when you make a change, but it's a lot harder to quantify and qualify it properly.
To draw proper conclusions you need to live with a product for awhile. So I expect that I'll notice a big difference in feel, but I want to make sure I describe it properly. While waiting for them to arrive, I'm paying a lot of attention to the ergonomics of the stock bike so I'll have a baseline. |
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March 22nd, 2010, 12:08 PM | #16 |
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This reveiw can't come fast enough.
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March 22nd, 2010, 12:11 PM | #17 |
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What you could do Andrew is give us first your initial impression. It may be a little biased due to placebo but that is when the ergonomics of the stock bars is still fresh in your mind. Later on you can add more things as time goes on and you get more used to it. I think that would be most helpful for everyone.
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March 27th, 2010, 07:06 PM | #18 |
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OK, should mention... these are now OUT OF STOCK. the initial test load of 50pcs has all been sold..
So here is what i am going to do... i will wait for some positive reviews and requests before i machine any more. Just to make sure these will be popular. If i do get positive feedback and people asking for them i will Machine a Masive load. This time think i will also have my Logo on the side... So lets wait and see what happens here.. Cheers guys!! |
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March 29th, 2010, 08:31 AM | #19 |
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Maybe even a group buyy
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March 29th, 2010, 08:44 AM | #20 |
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March 29th, 2010, 09:45 AM | #21 |
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Do they work for pregens also? If so im in for the group buy.
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March 29th, 2010, 10:05 AM | #22 |
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Well, if the Bolt Spacing & Size, and the forks is the same size, then yeah...
But thats somthing you guys gonna need to check into.. i have absolutly no access to pregens here in thailand. Shame, cos i would make stuff for them too |
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April 2nd, 2010, 08:34 AM | #23 |
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Just bought a set with the Shinto Rear sets. They are sold out right now but was told that hes gunna make more now and that it should only take about 10 days to make another batch. Im pretty excited and will post up my reviews along with Andrew. I'll probably ride with the risers for a little first then throw on the rear sets.
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April 5th, 2010, 08:23 PM | #24 |
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Yes you deff need to make more!! if they were black it would be even better
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April 5th, 2010, 08:39 PM | #25 | |
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Well, the silver image ones are to to show them clearly..of course you can choose you color as you may know, or not know as the case may be.. when it comes to CNC items, i can do most colors for you.! |
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April 12th, 2010, 08:56 AM | #26 |
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They're here. Postmarked 24 March. Today is 12 April.
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April 12th, 2010, 10:31 AM | #27 |
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Installed.
Took less than ten minutes. The stock bolts have a lot of threadlocker (blue) on them, so I had to put an extension (a changeable-bit screwdriver handle) on the Allen wrench to get a bit more leverage, but no problems. Rode back to work, which is about 20 miles, two-thirds suburban streets/roads and one-third parkway. Immediate impressions: The bike is at least 5 mph faster and fuel economy has improved by 3 mpg! Seriously.... They do make a noticeable change that I like. They do more or less what I'd hoped for at speed... my hands are still up high and close in when I'm tucked, but my wrists are rotated thumbs-up a bit. The change is not dramatic, but it is noticeable. Handling is, of course, the same. So overall, a nice, relatively inexpensive ergonomic tweak. These are not poor-man's clip-ons. They do not move the bars forward or down. All they do is change the angle of the grip. |
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April 12th, 2010, 10:37 AM | #28 |
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Glad to hear you like them, and they are of benificial use to you!
I agree with what you said, although i found handling a bit different, tighter..Racier.. if you get time, drop a pic or two to me.. i like to keep pics of customers bikes with shinto products. will eventually hit my web pages photo album,. Drive safe! |
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April 12th, 2010, 07:30 PM | #29 |
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On the way home from work tonight I noticed another nifty thing, but this would really only apply to someone my size.
When I'm semi-tucked on the freeway, the arm position I now have makes it easy to park my elbows on my knees, which lets me take all the weight off of my hands. Liking the improved wrist angle so far. |
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April 12th, 2010, 10:39 PM | #30 | |
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If you have weight on your hands you're doing it wrong. I ride a zx6r and the only time there is weight on my hands is while braking. As for the spacers,looks like a great idea |
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April 13th, 2010, 04:10 AM | #31 | |
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I'm not saying I lean hard on my wrists... clearly wrong. And yeah, I can remove all the weight from my hands when I want to by holding my torso up with my core muscles. But leaning way over ALL the time without actually leaning ON something? Hmmm. When I'm fully tucked I can lean on the tank. But when I'm not all the way over, I can't. When I sat on some supersports last week (see the sportbike ergonomics thread) I found that I could remove the weight from my wrists by leaning my belly against the tank in what (for those bikes) is a normal riding position... semi-tucked. The 250 doesn't lend itself to that for whatever reason. |
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April 13th, 2010, 08:27 AM | #32 |
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whille i ride i can take my hands off at any moment except under braking and i'm not leaning on the tank.
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April 13th, 2010, 08:30 AM | #33 |
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So can I, but maintaining that at all times? NEVER EVER putting any weight on your hands?
If I sit up far enough and slide forward in the seat then I can do that easily. But the farther over I lean, and the more I shove my butt back, the more effort it takes until I have something to rest on. You have to hold yourself up somehow, right? |
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legs and back.
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April 13th, 2010, 08:49 AM | #35 |
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Okay, something to think about. I'll have to try a ride where I'm paying a lot of attention to that and see what it's like.
Personally I find that while I may not be putting much weight at all on my hands. I do have SOME, however small. As in, if the bars were to suddenly vanish I wouldn't do a face-plant on the tank, but I would lurch forward a little. With ZERO weight on my hands, the bars could disappear and I wouldn't notice. I also move around a lot to avoid cramps and monkeybutt. So sometimes I'll put more weight on my feet, or my butt, or yes, my hands. |
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April 18th, 2010, 09:16 AM | #36 |
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just to let folk know, i will be picking up 50 sets of these from tha machinist next week.. so get em in
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April 19th, 2010, 06:44 AM | #37 |
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Still liking them a lot. I don't notice they're there, which is really good... it means that the bike fits me better.
Position-wise, they put you in what I'd call a sport-touring posture. The stock bars are those of a "standard" bike. A sport-tourer is more aggressive, but not like a supersport. They're living up to my hopes for them. |
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April 19th, 2010, 08:06 AM | #38 |
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Thats great to hear...im waitin for mine to get shipped which is in the next batch. Pretty psyched!
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April 24th, 2010, 03:14 PM | #39 |
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so is the next batch ready? website still shows sold out. anything in the works for a group buy or forum member discount?
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April 24th, 2010, 07:58 PM | #40 | |
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Already Pre-sold 20 sets. Remaning 30 Sets (made 100pcs / 50 sets) so if you guys want some, jump in! rekon they will be gone within a month or less. |
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