Pirelli Diablo Rosso II Tires - Page 10

NDspd · June 14th, 2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Robinhood

I think my 130 stock tires were closer to the edge, but never scraped...good to know there's extra rubber room on these 140s. Yeah, was caught off guard and spooked when I first heard the "SCCCRRRRRR"!

Haha...my form has gotten a lot better since then, so I almost never touch anymore.

Robinhood · June 14th, 2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

Haha...my form has gotten a lot better since then, so I almost never touch anymore.

Haha, sounds good. I've been working on my form, but I remember in that particular turn, I kept my body inline with the bike. Hopefully track days help out. I want to get some AL rearset adjusters, but I'm paranoid I'm going to scrape something else that will catch. I guess I'll learn from this track day first, then go from there.

PsHYk · June 14th, 2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

110 70 17 on the front, 140 70 17 on rear

Sweet thanks a lot ill see whats up cus my tires (and bike for that matter) only have 350 miles right now so maybe another month or so

NDspd · June 14th, 2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Robinhood

Haha, sounds good. I've been working on my form, but I remember in that particular turn, I kept my body inline with the bike. Hopefully track days help out. I want to get some AL rearset adjusters, but I'm paranoid I'm going to scrape something else that will catch. I guess I'll learn from this track day first, then go from there.

I know this is a little off topic from this thread...

I would work on your form before switching to different rearsets...but that's up to you. Read the Twist of the wrist books, they will help a ton.

Ok, back on topic.

Robinhood · June 14th, 2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

I know this is a little off topic from this thread...

I would work on your form before switching to different rearsets...but that's up to you. Read the Twist of the wrist books, they will help a ton.

Ok, back on topic.

Thanks for the advice. I have one of the Twist of the Wrist videos, but still want to buy the book(s).

Yes yes...these tires are excellent!

streetsquid · June 17th, 2012, 04:50 AM

Tires are great. And after riding them the feel they give over the stock ones is a big improvement in ride comfort and handing. I know I have rode faster bikes over the years and now I have down sized. But come on Kawasaki put some better tires on the bike.

One of the best things I think you can to do it without spending to much money. Thats just my opinion

akima · June 18th, 2012, 10:42 AM

I just ordered a pair of DR2s!

Thank you for being my guinea pigs and trying these out before I bought them

I've put over 5000 miles on the stock tyres and they still look almost new! I'm going to package them up and keep them as spares. I might even switch back to using the stock tyres next winter when the road conditions get worse and subsequently, I stop riding like a maniac

NDspd · June 18th, 2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by akima

I just ordered a pair of DR2s!

Thank you for being my guinea pigs and trying these out before I bought them

I've put over 5000 miles on the stock tyres and they still look almost new! I'm going to package them up and keep them as spares. I might even switch back to using the stock tyres next winter when the road conditions get worse and subsequently, I stop riding like a maniac

Awesome Dude!!! You won't be let down.

Robinhood · June 30th, 2012, 09:33 PM

First track day ever, and the tires performed admirably! No traction issues all day....only thing holding me back were my skills

akima · July 1st, 2012, 02:23 AM

I've been riding on these tyres for 3 days now. They feel fantastic; like I'm glued to the road. I was so excited about getting them installed

NDspd · July 1st, 2012, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

I've been riding on these tyres for 3 days now. They feel fantastic; like I'm glued to the road. I was so excited about getting them installed

Haha, very nice man, they also do super well in rain at highway speeds. Ony other downside is that they are a soft tire and they tend to pick up little rocks off the road. So, for any riders behind you, I'd let them know. I think that's with most tires anyways.

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Originally Posted by Robinhood

First track day ever, and the tires performed admirably! No traction issues all day....only thing holding me back were my skills

Dude, that's freaking awesome, how much use did they get throughout the day? How many laps?

Robinhood · July 1st, 2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

Dude, that's freaking awesome, how much use did they get throughout the day? How many laps?

Not sure how many laps, but I did four or five 20 minute sessions. It was 92°F, and way more demanding and tiring than street or canyon riding. I'm hooked! This is going to be bad for my wallet...

NDspd · July 1st, 2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robinhood

Not sure how many laps, but I did four or five 20 minute sessions. It was 92°F, and way more demanding and tiring than street or canyon riding. I'm hooked! This is going to be bad for my wallet...

Alright, not bad man. I bet with 92degrees, the track temps were near 110F. I really would like to do a track day where everything is included. I can't afford to race my bike and only form of transport.

Domagoj · July 2nd, 2012, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

I've been riding on these tyres for 3 days now. They feel fantastic; like I'm glued to the road. I was so excited about getting them installed

Watch that speedo!

After a few days with DR2 I kept catching myself doing double the speed limit a bit too often.

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Originally Posted by NDspd

Alright, not bad man. I bet with 92degrees, the track temps were near 110F. I really would like to do a track day where everything is included. I can't afford to race my bike and only form of transport.

You don't have to race. Just go for a track day, with no lap timing or competition of any sort, and enjoy yourself!

ninja_thresh_hold · July 9th, 2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

I haven't been as lucky as you might think. My bike has been in a garage for a fortnight on account of the fuel injection system failing (more specifically, a part of the throttle body). It's under warranty so it didn't cost me anything to fix, but it was still annoying to be out of a bike for that time!

Much respect for adding FI to your bike. It sounds like a time-consuming and complicated process with lots of trial and error.

lol thnks

C L · July 14th, 2012, 01:05 AM

Anyone with a mileage update/treadwear?

NDspd · July 14th, 2012, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by C L

Anyone with a mileage update/treadwear?

After moving to Ohio for the summer, I've notice the wear of the tire has gone significantly down. I'd say it is due to the fact there are more turns and twists, making me use the whole surface of the tire. It also seems that the tire never seems to get as hot as it did in Savannah.

Graugaard · July 14th, 2012, 08:34 AM

I heard from my mechanic that diablo rosso are only designed for 100hp+ bikes, and they will never get warmed really good up with our bikes?

Is this true? Looks like you guys enjoying them alot?
Instead he told me to get Pilot Road 3's which were designed for small bikes, havnt decided yet.

NJ Ninjette · July 14th, 2012, 09:58 AM

I don't think there is a 100+ hp bike in the world that would use a 140/70...

Alex · July 14th, 2012, 11:40 AM

The reason Pirelli makes these in a 140 is exactly for bikes like ours. I'd think a Pilot Road 3 (which I love on other bikes, BTW), would be a good example of a tire designed for a much heavier bike, and might never perform well on our 250's.

Graugaard · July 14th, 2012, 12:01 PM

i see, but stock size is 130, wouldn't 140 be bad for cornering performance?

Alex · July 14th, 2012, 12:13 PM

That identical tire might perform even better if it were available in a 130, but it's not, so it's a bit moot. A great tire in a 140 rear > a good tire in a 130 rear (IMO).

Graugaard · July 14th, 2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

That identical tire might perform even better if it were available in a 130, but it's not, so it's a bit moot. A great tire in a 140 rear > a good tire in a 130 rear (IMO).

True! However speed demon II from pirelli is 130 at rear, just wondering if that wouldn't be a better tire then.

Alex · July 14th, 2012, 12:34 PM

Do you mean the Sport Demons? I'm a big fan of them, but there are 20 years of improved technologies between those and the new Diablo Rosso II's. Can't go wrong with either.

Graugaard · July 14th, 2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Do you mean the Sport Demons? I'm a big fan of them, but there are 20 years of improved technologies between those and the new Diablo Rosso II's. Can't go wrong with either.

Arh yea sport demons, ok thanks. Just need to change the front tier right now, think i will go for rosso ii here since its same size, then see if i stick to sport demons or rosso ii for rear wheel, when the time comes

NJ Ninjette · July 15th, 2012, 05:57 AM

You shouldn't mix radial and bias-ply tires, best to decide which way you want to go.

Jiggles · July 30th, 2012, 01:04 AM

Just ordered a set, though I'm a firm believer in the BT45s but since I have the 1000 for longer distances I'ma do the 250 twisty only. If the tires square off then I will have failed

choneofakind · July 30th, 2012, 04:21 AM

Jiggles, I liked the bt45 but it didn't wear right for me. Ymmv, but from what I've read, I think you'll like the dr2's better for twisties. They'll be better once you make it a track bike for sure.
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00NissanNinja · July 30th, 2012, 04:27 PM

diablo rosso II>>bt45

Jiggles · July 30th, 2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja

diablo rosso II>>bt45

For what, grip? Yes, mileage? No

The bt45s are a higher mileage tire designed to not square off quite as quickly and give you more grip while you're in the twisties

The only thing you can really say is diablo ross II + bt45 >> IRC

Just depends on what you will use them for

00NissanNinja · July 30th, 2012, 05:02 PM

I can agree with that. But for twisties drII would be my first choice.

Jiggles · July 30th, 2012, 05:05 PM

Me too, it would be weird if you wore down the sides of a tire before the middle haha

jenndiggity · July 30th, 2012, 05:57 PM

I know "Z" is for 149+mph but what is the difference between "H" and "W"? I'm price comparing and bikebandit.com has variations that Motorcyclesuperstore doesn't have. See link and then Select Option: http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-di...otorcycle-tire

ALSO, how would I "scrub" new tires?

cuong-nutz · July 30th, 2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jenndiggity

I know "Z" is for 149+mph but what is the difference between "H" and "W"? I'm price comparing and bikebandit.com has variations that Motorcyclesuperstore doesn't have. See link and then Select Option: http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-di...otorcycle-tire

ALSO, how would I "scrub" new tires?

Yeah, I'm not familiar with those H and W speed ratings. Never seen them. As for scrubbing the tires, just take it easy on the tires so you get rid of the protective coating on the treads. Don't be heading full speed in a turn.

Jiggles · July 30th, 2012, 06:18 PM

I have a feeling any motorcycle speed rating on a tire is capable of more than the ninja 250 is

rceezy · July 30th, 2012, 06:43 PM

I LOVE MINE.

Hi Jiggles. I feel like I'm stalking you by posting in every thread you are. Awkward.

NDspd · July 30th, 2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jenndiggity

ALSO, how would I "scrub" new tires?

Just ride a little easier/less aggressive for about 25-50 miles to get the initial shine off the tire. In reality unless it's wet, I wouldn't worry about it much.

NDspd · July 30th, 2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

For what, grip? Yes, mileage? No

The bt45s are a higher mileage tire designed to not square off quite as quickly and give you more grip while you're in the twisties

The only thing you can really say is diablo ross II + bt45 >> IRC

Just depends on what you will use them for

Fully agree with you there, different tires suit different uses and users. But any tire would be better that the IRC's.

choneofakind · July 31st, 2012, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Me too, it would be weird if you wore down the sides of a tire before the middle haha

take a look at some track-only bikes when you go to the track. That's how their tires are.
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jenndiggity · July 31st, 2012, 03:30 PM

Ok found out H is for 130mph and W is 168mph. I'm not a racer so I'm ordering the 110/ 70R -17 and 140/ 10HR - 17.
I don't know how anyone in this forum can "take it easy"; as soon as I get on her I turn into a superhero and have to GO! FAST! NOW!!

I was hoping for a brillo pad or sandpaper answer!

June 17th, 2012, 04:50 AM	#366
streetsquid ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: CT Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250,2005 suzuki drz400 supermoto,2005 cr150f supermoto,2009 klx 110,1998 Z-50 Posts: 44	Tires are great. And after riding them the feel they give over the stock ones is a big improvement in ride comfort and handing. I know I have rode faster bikes over the years and now I have down sized. But come on Kawasaki put some better tires on the bike. One of the best things I think you can to do it without spending to much money. Thats just my opinion __________________________________________________ SQUID-Rider who overestimates his abilities.And rides Really slow in the corners,and sudden bursts of acceleration when a straight appears.Squids wear no protection,an thinks there invincible.

July 14th, 2012, 09:58 AM	#379
NJ Ninjette ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: NJ Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Husky TE 250, 2002 KTM EXC 250r Posts: 217	I don't think there is a 100+ hp bike in the world that would use a 140/70... __________________________________________________

July 14th, 2012, 11:40 AM	#380
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The reason Pirelli makes these in a 140 is exactly for bikes like ours. I'd think a Pilot Road 3 (which I love on other bikes, BTW), would be a good example of a tire designed for a much heavier bike, and might never perform well on our 250's. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

July 14th, 2012, 12:13 PM	#382
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	That identical tire might perform even better if it were available in a 130, but it's not, so it's a bit moot. A great tire in a 140 rear > a good tire in a 130 rear (IMO). __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

July 14th, 2012, 12:34 PM	#384
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Do you mean the Sport Demons? I'm a big fan of them, but there are 20 years of improved technologies between those and the new Diablo Rosso II's. Can't go wrong with either. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 18th, 2012, 10:42 AM	#367
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	I just ordered a pair of DR2s! Thank you for being my guinea pigs and trying these out before I bought them I've put over 5000 miles on the stock tyres and they still look almost new! I'm going to package them up and keep them as spares. I might even switch back to using the stock tyres next winter when the road conditions get worse and subsequently, I stop riding like a maniac

June 30th, 2012, 09:33 PM	#369
Robinhood ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: San Diego Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2007 GSXR 600 Posts: 232	First track day ever, and the tires performed admirably! No traction issues all day....only thing holding me back were my skills

July 1st, 2012, 02:23 AM	#370
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	I've been riding on these tyres for 3 days now. They feel fantastic; like I'm glued to the road. I was so excited about getting them installed

July 14th, 2012, 01:05 AM	#376
C L ninjette.org member Name: Andrew Location: Orlando, FL Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2014 300 Posts: 162	Anyone with a mileage update/treadwear?

July 14th, 2012, 08:34 AM	#378
Graugaard ninjette.org member Name: Elias Location: Denmark Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r Posts: 152	I heard from my mechanic that diablo rosso are only designed for 100hp+ bikes, and they will never get warmed really good up with our bikes? Is this true? Looks like you guys enjoying them alot? Instead he told me to get Pilot Road 3's which were designed for small bikes, havnt decided yet.

July 14th, 2012, 12:01 PM	#381
Graugaard ninjette.org member Name: Elias Location: Denmark Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r Posts: 152	i see, but stock size is 130, wouldn't 140 be bad for cornering performance?

July 15th, 2012, 05:57 AM	#386
NJ Ninjette ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: NJ Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Husky TE 250, 2002 KTM EXC 250r Posts: 217	You shouldn't mix radial and bias-ply tires, best to decide which way you want to go. __________________________________________________

July 30th, 2012, 01:04 AM	#387
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Just ordered a set, though I'm a firm believer in the BT45s but since I have the 1000 for longer distances I'ma do the 250 twisty only. If the tires square off then I will have failed __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 30th, 2012, 04:21 AM	#388
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Jiggles, I liked the bt45 but it didn't wear right for me. Ymmv, but from what I've read, I think you'll like the dr2's better for twisties. They'll be better once you make it a track bike for sure. Posted via Mobile Device

July 30th, 2012, 04:27 PM	#389
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	diablo rosso II>>bt45 __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

July 30th, 2012, 05:02 PM	#391
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	I can agree with that. But for twisties drII would be my first choice. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

July 30th, 2012, 05:05 PM	#392
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Me too, it would be weird if you wore down the sides of a tire before the middle haha __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 30th, 2012, 05:57 PM	#393
jenndiggity ninjette.org member Name: Jennifer Location: Rancho Cucamonga Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 56 Blog Entries: 1	I know "Z" is for 149+mph but what is the difference between "H" and "W"? I'm price comparing and bikebandit.com has variations that Motorcyclesuperstore doesn't have. See link and then Select Option: http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-di...otorcycle-tire ALSO, how would I "scrub" new tires?

July 30th, 2012, 06:18 PM	#395
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I have a feeling any motorcycle speed rating on a tire is capable of more than the ninja 250 is __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 30th, 2012, 06:43 PM	#396
rceezy Lean Me Name: RC Location: America Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 678 Blog Entries: 4	I LOVE MINE. Hi Jiggles. I feel like I'm stalking you by posting in every thread you are. Awkward.

July 31st, 2012, 03:30 PM	#400
jenndiggity ninjette.org member Name: Jennifer Location: Rancho Cucamonga Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Black 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 56 Blog Entries: 1	Ok found out H is for 130mph and W is 168mph. I'm not a racer so I'm ordering the 110/ 70R -17 and 140/ 10HR - 17. I don't know how anyone in this forum can "take it easy"; as soon as I get on her I turn into a superhero and have to GO! FAST! NOW!! I was hoping for a brillo pad or sandpaper answer!

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