Difference between motogp bike and street bike

CycleCam303 · July 2nd, 2013, 09:59 AM

A lengthy but interesting read

http://m.motorcycle-usa.com/811/1505...s--MotoGP.aspx

10 seconds a lap is a monstrous gap. But what's most notable is that if you did take Marquez and park him on a super stock hp4, he probably could get the thing in the top 10 of motogp qualifying at some tracks.

It just goes to show how capable mass market superbikes are. I've seen plenty of s1000's and zx10's cruising around and it's amazing to think what that semi ordinary machine can do. At the same time it goes to show how slow most of us are haha.

Motofool · July 2nd, 2013, 10:05 AM

http://www.motogp.com/en/MotoGP+Basics/bikes

rojoracing53 · July 2nd, 2013, 10:36 AM

Um your ZX-10 street squids bike is about as close to a world superbike class bike as my stock tundra is to a Toyota trophy truck

well maybe not that extreme but you get the point.

Those two second aren't much in time but in technology and skill its a gap few could ever hope to bridge.

csmith12 · July 2nd, 2013, 10:43 AM

Perspective:

I am 4 seconds (1:16) off 1st place (1:12) pace per lap. Over a 10 lap race, 1st, & 2nd have half the track on me when the checkers drop.

10 seconds = lap traffic.

Still think production bikes are close to GP bikes? lol

Panda · July 2nd, 2013, 10:54 AM

http://www.gizmag.com/are-motorcycle...-effort/22014/

Here's another article with a similar vein.

CycleCam303 · July 2nd, 2013, 11:04 AM

Jeebus a Christ all I did was note that the highest level of motorcycle performance isnt amazingly faster than say the fastest street car compared to f1. Yes aerodynamics are a huge factor in the 4 wheel world. The fastest street car does 1:32 around Laguna and some old early 90s Ferrari f1 holds the lap record with a high 1:05. Just a simple perspective

Gurk · July 2nd, 2013, 11:21 AM

Also mind you, there are tracks that are way more high speed and flowing than Laguna Seca. Which means the gap would be even larger. Article already mentioned that Nicky Hayden & Ducati isn't the fastest combo.

Also what rojo said. WSBK bikes are CRAZY ahead of their versions that you pick up from the dealer.

But yeah.. I still don't doubt the production bikes came A LONG way from where they were a few years ago. Hell, isn't that the point of all the R&D of Motogp. Factories enter it so they can put all the new technology found in their street bikes.

I still like the fact that in theory, what I buy from the dealer can be made into something that can lap that fast in the right hands

Love watching WSS for this very reason. I get a different kind of pleasure when I watch some guy destroy the field with the same exact bike I'm on minus the 10's of thousands of dollars spent onto modifying it ofcourse

But still!

Joshorilla · July 2nd, 2013, 11:44 AM

I suppose the best place to see road bikes souped up to super racing bike tech standards would be the IOM TT, fred in a shed type guys do amazing things with bikes in the UK for the TT.

It's not impossible to get a bike from the dealership and bring it up to top racing specs, it's just expensive! Lots of carbon fibre, lighter parts etc.

alex.s · July 2nd, 2013, 01:03 PM

the first 95% takes 10%. the last 5% takes 90%.

Whiskey · July 2nd, 2013, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshorilla

I suppose the best place to see road bikes souped up to super racing bike tech standards would be the IOM TT, fred in a shed type guys do amazing things with bikes in the UK for the TT.

It's not impossible to get a bike from the dealership and bring it up to top racing specs, it's just expensive! Lots of carbon fibre, lighter parts etc.

The Superstock class there is pretty much a production bike with a few shiny toys bolted on in place of the heavier stock parts.

CC Cowboy · July 2nd, 2013, 03:25 PM

In support of OP; a street bike today, meaning 1000 (or even the girls model 600) in the hands of your average rider can feel like a MotoGP bike when comparing riders ability to bike's capability.

ninjamunky85 · July 2nd, 2013, 03:44 PM

I miss the days of the 500cc two smokers. Those were some crazy bikes.

Link to original page on YouTube.

rojoracing53 · July 2nd, 2013, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

In support of OP; a street bike today, meaning 1000 (or even the girls model 600) in the hands of your average rider can feel like a MotoGP bike when comparing riders ability to bike's capability.

I'm so glad I don't ride a girls bike anymore

nickjpass · July 2nd, 2013, 05:32 PM

Girls bike? LOL wut

Motofool · July 2nd, 2013, 08:20 PM

"According to one estimate, leasing a top-level motorcycle for a rider costs about 3 to 3.5 million dollars for a racing season."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_...orcycle_racing

adouglas · July 3rd, 2013, 09:56 AM

There are 26 key differences between MotoGP bikes and street bikes.

They are called Dovizioso, Edwards, Bradl, Aoyama, Barbera, Petrucci, Spies, dePuniet, Abraham, Bautista, Silva, Pedrosa, Iannone, Crutchlow, Smith, Esparago, Rossi, Pirro, Pesek, Staring, Hernandez, Hayden, Laverty, Corti, Marques and Lorenzo.

rojoracing53 · July 3rd, 2013, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

There are 26 key differences between MotoGP bikes and street bikes.

They are called Dovizioso, Edwards, Bradl, Aoyama, Barbera, Petrucci, Spies, dePuniet, Abraham, Bautista, Silva, Pedrosa, Iannone, Crutchlow, Smith, Esparago, Rossi, Pirro, Pesek, Staring, Hernandez, Hayden, Laverty, Corti, Marques and Lorenzo.

I was one of those reasons back in like 2006 until my team folded because of lack of sponsorship

Joshorilla · July 3rd, 2013, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

I was one of those reasons back in like 2006 until my team folded because of lack of sponsorship

If only your sponsors thought as highly of you as you do yourself...

rojoracing53 · July 3rd, 2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshorilla

If only your sponsors thought as highly of you as you do yourself...

:blushing:

July 2nd, 2013, 09:59 AM	#1
CycleCam303 King Hamfist Name: Cameron Location: NorCal East Bay Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Crf 150R, 2011 Hypermotard 796 Posts: 940	Difference between motogp bike and street bike A lengthy but interesting read http://m.motorcycle-usa.com/811/1505...s--MotoGP.aspx 10 seconds a lap is a monstrous gap. But what's most notable is that if you did take Marquez and park him on a super stock hp4, he probably could get the thing in the top 10 of motogp qualifying at some tracks. It just goes to show how capable mass market superbikes are. I've seen plenty of s1000's and zx10's cruising around and it's amazing to think what that semi ordinary machine can do. At the same time it goes to show how slow most of us are haha.
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July 2nd, 2013, 10:05 AM	#2
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July 2nd, 2013, 10:36 AM	#3
rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	Um your ZX-10 street squids bike is about as close to a world superbike class bike as my stock tundra is to a Toyota trophy truck well maybe not that extreme but you get the point. Those two second aren't much in time but in technology and skill its a gap few could ever hope to bridge.
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July 2nd, 2013, 10:43 AM	#4
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Perspective: I am 4 seconds (1:16) off 1st place (1:12) pace per lap. Over a 10 lap race, 1st, & 2nd have half the track on me when the checkers drop. 10 seconds = lap traffic. Still think production bikes are close to GP bikes? lol __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

July 2nd, 2013, 01:03 PM	#9
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	the first 95% takes 10%. the last 5% takes 90%. __________________________________________________
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July 2nd, 2013, 10:54 AM	#5
Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	http://www.gizmag.com/are-motorcycle...-effort/22014/ Here's another article with a similar vein.

July 2nd, 2013, 11:04 AM	#6
CycleCam303 King Hamfist Name: Cameron Location: NorCal East Bay Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Crf 150R, 2011 Hypermotard 796 Posts: 940	Jeebus a Christ all I did was note that the highest level of motorcycle performance isnt amazingly faster than say the fastest street car compared to f1. Yes aerodynamics are a huge factor in the 4 wheel world. The fastest street car does 1:32 around Laguna and some old early 90s Ferrari f1 holds the lap record with a high 1:05. Just a simple perspective

July 2nd, 2013, 11:21 AM	#7
Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Also mind you, there are tracks that are way more high speed and flowing than Laguna Seca. Which means the gap would be even larger. Article already mentioned that Nicky Hayden & Ducati isn't the fastest combo. Also what rojo said. WSBK bikes are CRAZY ahead of their versions that you pick up from the dealer. But yeah.. I still don't doubt the production bikes came A LONG way from where they were a few years ago. Hell, isn't that the point of all the R&D of Motogp. Factories enter it so they can put all the new technology found in their street bikes. I still like the fact that in theory, what I buy from the dealer can be made into something that can lap that fast in the right hands Love watching WSS for this very reason. I get a different kind of pleasure when I watch some guy destroy the field with the same exact bike I'm on minus the 10's of thousands of dollars spent onto modifying it ofcourse But still!

July 2nd, 2013, 11:44 AM	#8
Joshorilla Bass Master General Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 24	I suppose the best place to see road bikes souped up to super racing bike tech standards would be the IOM TT, fred in a shed type guys do amazing things with bikes in the UK for the TT. It's not impossible to get a bike from the dealership and bring it up to top racing specs, it's just expensive! Lots of carbon fibre, lighter parts etc.

July 2nd, 2013, 03:25 PM	#11
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	In support of OP; a street bike today, meaning 1000 (or even the girls model 600) in the hands of your average rider can feel like a MotoGP bike when comparing riders ability to bike's capability. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

July 2nd, 2013, 03:44 PM	#12
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July 2nd, 2013, 05:32 PM	#14
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Girls bike? LOL wut __________________________________________________

July 2nd, 2013, 08:20 PM	#15
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	"According to one estimate, leasing a top-level motorcycle for a rider costs about 3 to 3.5 million dollars for a racing season." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_...orcycle_racing __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

July 3rd, 2013, 09:56 AM	#16
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