Racing Fuel

Snake · June 29th, 2013, 04:12 AM

Does anyone use racing fuel in there bikes either at the track or street? If so, what type do you use and do you run 100% or mixed with pump gas?
The main reason I am asking is because my bike does not run as good as it used to before the gas stations here switched to 10% ethenol.

DaBlue1 · June 29th, 2013, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

Does anyone use racing fuel in there bikes either at the track or street? If so, what type do you use and do you run 100% or mixed with pump gas?
The main reason I am asking is because my bike does not run as good as it used to before the gas stations here switched to 10% ethenol.

No need to run race fuel for street use. Premium is ethanol free.
So all the stations in your area no longer sell ethanol free gas?
When I can't get ethanol free gas, I but 87 octane and add Star Tron Fuel Treatment to it. Works good.

Racer x · June 29th, 2013, 06:05 AM

You don't want race gas. If it is not running well on 10%. maybe the jetting might need to be addressed.
What is different?

DaBlue1 · June 29th, 2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Racer x

What is different?

He got used to the way his bike felt using ethanol free gas. I know what he means. E10 and E0 make the bike run differently, especially at different elevations and humidity.

CC Cowboy · June 29th, 2013, 07:01 AM

http://pure-gas.org/extensions/map.html

Snake · June 29th, 2013, 07:33 AM

Thanks for the advice guys.
Like Blue said. I just got used to how it ran on ethanol free gas.

Alex · June 29th, 2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBlue1

Premium is ethanol free.

This may be true in your area, but it isn't universal. Premium still has 10% ethanol in much of the country. (was looking at the stickers all the way across the US this week).

Snake · June 29th, 2013, 11:50 AM

Yea ethenol sucks.

DaBlue1 · June 29th, 2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

This may be true in your area, but it isn't universal. Premium still has 10% ethanol in much of the country. (was looking at the stickers all the way across the US this week).

Yeah, that is true.

Asspire · June 29th, 2013, 02:55 PM

ummm, we've had this up here for as long as i can remember, i do know that shell 91 is supposed to have 0% (rotary guys run it only), not sure is the same is for the states. I did see a ethanol free pump at deals gap, but it was expensive.

Snake · June 30th, 2013, 07:05 AM

I checked several premium pumps around town and they all had stickers saying they contained 10% ethanol.

ChaoSS · June 30th, 2013, 07:26 AM

Just an FYI, as ethanol is an octane booster, the first e15s hitting the market are in fact, premium grade.

Check out the thread on ethanol gas + water = gas. Maybe you would be interested in making your own.

Snake · June 30th, 2013, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaoSS

Just an FYI, as ethanol is an octane booster, the first e15s hitting the market are in fact, premium grade.

Check out the thread on ethanol gas + water = gas. Maybe you would be interested in making your own.

Here is a link to the thread. Very interesting process trying to separate the ethanol from the gas. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136974

agent of orange · July 5th, 2013, 07:22 AM

i was always under the impression unless your engine is tuned for race fuel it may actually make no more or less power.

Snake · July 5th, 2013, 08:22 AM

After checking out the VP Racing Fuel site I think the cost is not worth it. http://www.vpracingfuels.com/motoroadracing.html

agent of orange · July 5th, 2013, 09:27 AM

the fact you cant let most race fuels sit in the system it deteriorates itself and just about everything it touches.. once the seal is cracked on a pale it has a limited shelf life. oh ya and the price hurts a bit to...

Snake · July 5th, 2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by agent of orange

the fact you cant let most race fuels sit in the system it deteriorates itself and just about everything it touches.. once the seal is cracked on a pale it has a limited shelf life. oh ya and the price hurts a bit to...

Yea at an average cost of $12 a gallon that is outrageous.

lgk · July 5th, 2013, 10:43 AM

its only worth it in the competitive environment.

just purify your own fuel like rojo did.

Snake · July 5th, 2013, 11:04 AM

That looks like the direction I'm going into.

agent of orange · July 5th, 2013, 11:18 AM

every day riding by an every day rider i not think most would notice..

lgk · July 5th, 2013, 11:22 AM

i dont really notice, my ecu autotunes.
unless i go on long trips, then my gas mileage suffers.

tooblekain · July 5th, 2013, 12:05 PM

you're better off finding an ethanol free pump or getting additive that for ethanol fuels

June 29th, 2013, 04:12 AM	#1
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Racing Fuel Does anyone use racing fuel in there bikes either at the track or street? If so, what type do you use and do you run 100% or mixed with pump gas? The main reason I am asking is because my bike does not run as good as it used to before the gas stations here switched to 10% ethenol.

June 29th, 2013, 06:05 AM	#3
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	You don't want race gas. If it is not running well on 10%. maybe the jetting might need to be addressed. What is different? __________________________________________________ Top speed 123.369mph. Ohio mile Worlds fastest 250 ninja

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lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	its only worth it in the competitive environment. just purify your own fuel like rojo did. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

July 5th, 2013, 11:22 AM	#21
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	i dont really notice, my ecu autotunes. unless i go on long trips, then my gas mileage suffers. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

June 29th, 2013, 07:33 AM	#6
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Thanks for the advice guys. Like Blue said. I just got used to how it ran on ethanol free gas.

June 29th, 2013, 11:50 AM	#8
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Yea ethenol sucks.

June 29th, 2013, 02:55 PM	#10
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	ummm, we've had this up here for as long as i can remember, i do know that shell 91 is supposed to have 0% (rotary guys run it only), not sure is the same is for the states. I did see a ethanol free pump at deals gap, but it was expensive.

June 30th, 2013, 07:05 AM	#11
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I checked several premium pumps around town and they all had stickers saying they contained 10% ethanol.

June 30th, 2013, 07:26 AM	#12
ChaoSS ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Goshen CA Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 red 250 ninja Posts: 740	Just an FYI, as ethanol is an octane booster, the first e15s hitting the market are in fact, premium grade. Check out the thread on ethanol gas + water = gas. Maybe you would be interested in making your own.

July 5th, 2013, 07:22 AM	#14
agent of orange ninjette.org member Name: trent Location: halifax canada Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): gsf1200, gsxr750, r6, gpz400, gpx400r, zx6d Posts: 21	i was always under the impression unless your engine is tuned for race fuel it may actually make no more or less power.

July 5th, 2013, 08:22 AM	#15
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	After checking out the VP Racing Fuel site I think the cost is not worth it. http://www.vpracingfuels.com/motoroadracing.html

July 5th, 2013, 09:27 AM	#16
agent of orange ninjette.org member Name: trent Location: halifax canada Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): gsf1200, gsxr750, r6, gpz400, gpx400r, zx6d Posts: 21	the fact you cant let most race fuels sit in the system it deteriorates itself and just about everything it touches.. once the seal is cracked on a pale it has a limited shelf life. oh ya and the price hurts a bit to...

July 5th, 2013, 11:04 AM	#19
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	That looks like the direction I'm going into.

July 5th, 2013, 11:18 AM	#20
agent of orange ninjette.org member Name: trent Location: halifax canada Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): gsf1200, gsxr750, r6, gpz400, gpx400r, zx6d Posts: 21	every day riding by an every day rider i not think most would notice..

July 5th, 2013, 12:05 PM	#22
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