DIY Install of the Bikemonkey Integrated LED tail light

[AnarchoMoltov]

looks good, u better be careful with the position of your license plate though...it gives the cops a excuse to screw with u...

[F1fnatik]

Well, I try to behave as much as possible. I'll try not to give them a (another) reason to pull me!

[Zandit]

That looks really neat, but isn't the number plate a little concealed? What do the Popo say?

[F1fnatik]

It's actually pretty easy to read form the back and I'll be installing an LED light for it in the next day or so (I ride 98% in daylight anyway).

[muloh]

I received this unit from Carl this week and finally got it installed a couple days ago. I am very impressed with this product! No cuts to any of the parts (either on my bike or the light). I plugged the turn signals into the stock connectors and heat-shrunk them to stay waterproof/tight.

Carl was kind enough to include a flasher relay that was plug and play - no cutting like in the DIY. The only part that was "difficult" was getting the socket into the stock wiring harness - it was a little sharp and I did it after putting the tail back together, so I didn't have much room. But, that's hardly anything to complain about - the quality is awesome!

[noche_caliente]

Welcome Brock. It's nice to have you join us. I hope you enjoy the light!

[ScorpionNinja]

Question about the BM LED tail-light here! Lets say i buy it, install it step by step from the 'Destructions" and when i go to use my Rear turn signals... the Stock turn signals, DONT work/blink in sync with the BM-LED built in turnsignals (amber)??? If this Kits installed correctly and you use the stock rear turn signals.... shouldnt the BM LED turnsignals & stock ones all blink in- sync?


As a side note, hes a link to a part (thou its not for ninja 250R) its a Neat idea that would be an ideal Mod!

http://http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/4934/621/

[F1fnatik]

They do blink at the same rate...although faster. I'm not that worried about the quicker flashing but to answer your question, they do blink in sync.

[noche_caliente]

Dave - that's pretty neat - you should start a new thread about it as to not take away from the Bikemonkey product

[ScorpionNinja]

Originally Posted by F1fnatik

They do blink at the same rate...although faster. I'm not that worried about the quicker flashing but to answer your question, they do blink in sync.

oh ok, hmm so how would you get them to blink all in snyc, but at the Normal speed? Im not a electonics expert hince im asking some detailed questions.... i am thinking of getting this BM led mod. Or at least just getting a rely flasher thingy like Sugarbear has that uses her stock taillight... all it does is make her stock taillight do the 3x pulse when you 'Tap your brakes' just once. Its a nice safety thing, as id rather NOT have to manually squeeze the front brakes often at a stop... so i can just REST my throttle hand, ya know!

[F1fnatik]

I think you just have to get a different flasher but I'm not positive since I haven't addressed it yet. I like the 3x flash thing too. When I get some time I'll do a bit of research and see if I can get that solved as well.

[randomwalk101]

not exactly sure why removing all kinds fairing and $hit to install the BM light. I just literally installed it in 5 mins or less.
I did NOT however hook up the signals..I just left it out and not use it.

1) remove seat cowl (or rear seat).
2) stick a 10mm socket in and remove the two bolts holding the tail light
3) twist and remove the stock bulb out of taillight
4) pull tail light out (now holds by velcro)
5) transfer two grommet over to BM light, reinstall reverse of removal. Done.

[randomwalk101]

For those who have BM light but not using the turn signal portion, have you openned up the unit and replaced all the yellow signal LEDs and change them to red ones then hook up to brake light...have one superbright taillight when you hit the brake?

[ScorpionNinja]

Originally Posted by NJD022588

Nice DIY, Brad!

To help anyone that may use this, the new electronic flasher used in Step 6 can be bought at most auto parts stores.

You mean that if i Just wanted to make my Stock tail-light do the 3x Pulse Flash when i tap the brakes once... all i gotta do is remove the Stock Flasher adn Replace it was the New electronic flasher?


If so... ummm what info and specs do i need to tell the autoparts store guy, so hell get me the Right Part?
Whats the Cost of this Part?
-Thanks!

[Ken08Ninja]

Originally Posted by ScorpionNinja

You mean that if i Just wanted to make my Stock tail-light do the 3x Pulse Flash when i tap the brakes once... all i gotta do is remove the Stock Flasher adn Replace it was the New electronic flasher?


If so... ummm what info and specs do i need to tell the autoparts store guy, so hell get me the Right Part?
Whats the Cost of this Part?
-Thanks!

No, the new flasher is to get the TURN signals to flash properly when using LED lights.

[Momaru]

Dave, if you want to have a flashing brake light, you might look here:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5583

It's not free, but it's inexpensive and completely reversible.



John, I seem to remember the folks @ bikemonkey saying their light is rather well sealed to make it waterproof. Having looked, (I had a similar thought, but wanted to altering the LED arrangement) I think popping it open to switch out those orange/yellow turn-signal LEDs might be a bit difficult. More power to ya if you want to try, just make sure to get properly rated LEDs for the replacement (ask the bikemonkey folks what they're using?). I'm happy with having redundant turn signals. Helps make up for all the people that don't use 'em

[ScorpionNinja]

Originally Posted by Momaru

Dave, if you want to have a flashing brake light, you might look here:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5583

It's not free, but it's inexpensive and completely reversible.



John, I seem to remember the folks @ bikemonkey saying their light is rather well sealed to make it waterproof. Having looked, (I had a similar thought, but wanted to altering the LED arrangement) I think popping it open to switch out those orange/yellow turn-signal LEDs might be a bit difficult. More power to ya if you want to try, just make sure to get properly rated LEDs for the replacement (ask the bikemonkey folks what they're using?). I'm happy with having redundant turn signals. Helps make up for all the people that don't use 'em

Hmmm how about this i came across while making a LINK in another Thread?
http://www.jcwhitney.com/AMPERITE-ST...4762_10111.jcw

[ScorpionNinja]

Sweet thanks very much for that LINK!

Just bought 1 for $32.90 (shipped) from that guy!

Cant wait to plug it in!

Its useable also on zx6R too (my next bike when im ready and have money too burn)

[DsmRacing]

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Just to add to this thread, if you use the BM tail light signals with the stock front blinkers then you will need an electronic flaher. You can purchase the FL-32 flasher at Autozone for $8.00. Works great! Remove your stock flasher and install the FL-32, no cutting, direct fit. I also used the kawi universal signal wire kits that I purchased from cyclegear. Again direct fit, no cutting.

[cochraneap]

Originally Posted by DsmRacing

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Just to add to this thread, if you use the BM tail light signals with the stock front blinkers then you will need an electronic flaher. You can purchase the FL-32 flasher at Autozone for $8.00. Works great! Remove your stock flasher and install the FL-32, no cutting, direct fit. I also used the kawi universal signal wire kits that I purchased from cyclegear. Again direct fit, no cutting.

um, where is the flasher located? that's all i have left to do.

i have the BM integrated taillight installed, wires for turn signals spliced and connected.

i just can find the flasher to be able to replace it with an LED flasher.

[Momaru]

Should be outboard of the frame, inside your left tail fairing if I recall correctly. Been a while since I did the flasher switchout.

[cochraneap]

Originally Posted by Momaru

Should be outboard of the frame, inside your left tail fairing if I recall correctly. Been a while since I did the flasher switchout.

Ah! yep. thanks. for some reason, I thought the picture in this thread showed it on the right side, so that's where I was looking.

plugged the new FL-32 electronic flasher in and everything works great. front and rear signals flash, and at a good pace.

so glad to finally be done with this. I have been stubbornly trying to figure out how to get the rear turn signals hooked up on my own for the past couple days.

[DsmRacing]

I finally finished this mod tonight! I like the look of the rear of the bike much better now. I still have to get a LP light. To add to this, the No-cut modulator works perfectly with the BM tail light.

[divingtigger]

Anyone who did this wanna sell their stock tail light?? The lens on mine is busted and my bike will fail the safety with the integrated one

[randomwalk101]

I thought you part out your bike??
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[divingtigger]

Nope it ended up that the place doing the integrity screwed up and was talking about another green ninja they were doing an integrity on that failed. They passed mine and straightened out the subframe for free (less than an hours worth of work)

[randomwalk101]

so frame straight messed up dealer not your green ninja messed up before part out but free subframe straight up now all good part out no more?

[divingtigger]

Yep that's pretty much it. I knew that the back was a little twisted, and the insurance company here (government owned and regulated in Manitoba) requires all insurance auction vehicles to pass an integrity (prior to rebuilding) and a safety (after rebuilding) before you can register and insure it for street use

[divingtigger]

I did put a post in my forsale thread....guess I should move it to the top or just delete the whole thing

[Momaru]

Andrew, how did you end up routing your wires to the flashers? Did you keep your stock flashers as well as adding the integrated or did you pull the stalks? Curious to see/hear how other people did it. Suppose I should post pics of what I did while I'm at it

[cochraneap]

Originally Posted by Momaru

Andrew, how did you end up routing your wires to the flashers? Did you keep your stock flashers as well as adding the integrated or did you pull the stalks? Curious to see/hear how other people did it. Suppose I should post pics of what I did while I'm at it

i did away with the entire factory rear fender, replacing it with a BikeLiteZ undertail fender eliminator kit.

- cut the cables off the factory signals.
- trimmed back the black tubing.
- stripped 1/4" of the green wire on both.
- put a closed end connector on the black wire on both and covered them with electrical tape.
- cut the flat ends off the blue and yellow Bike Money signal wires.
- stripped 1/4" of the blue and yellow wires.
- connected them to their respective green wires with butt end connectors and covered them with electrical tape.

to remember which signal wire went into which factory cable (one has gray connections, one has black connections), i noted that the second letter of gRay is R so that is the Right signal, and the second letter of bLack is L so that is the Left signal.

got an FL-32 "heavy duty Truck and RV electronic flasher" from Autozone for $12 and it plugged in without any modification and works perfectly. the flash rate is exactly where it needs to be, it's not too fast like some people have reported with other flashers.

[xjapa1n]

I'm having this problem with the flashers as well but I'm in Japan. No one seems to have this FL-32 flasher and on top of that, I can't find it on the internet except on the Autozone website. Unfortunately they just won't send it to me since I'm 6000 miles away...I can't believe how easy this would be if I wasn't overseas!

[noche_caliente]

Dave - I'd be happy to help you get the flasher - drop me a PM

[xjapa1n]

I DID IT!! It only took me 3 weeks but I did it!

[Gumachine]

quick nub question, is a new flasher necessary or can you use the factory one? and if you do will that cause any problems?

[Momaru]

Yes you can technically use the stock flasher, for at least some amount of time. But it'll at least result in an unusual flash rate for your blinkers. It's mentioned earlier in this thread.

[mattyg909]

I cant find where the hot wire (green wire) is located inside the bike. Where do the blue and yellow wires plug in to? Ive unplugged the stock blinkers and cant find where the LED signals plug in.

[Momaru]

The LED signal wires go to the hot wires for the stocker signals. I wound up routing the LED wiring out the small hole in the tail and into the bulb housing for my stock signals because I wanted to have both. Just attached the brass clips to an extra tab on the blinker socket.

As for the green wire, I can't remember having to fuss with it; just plug the bulb adapter into the socket.
EDIT: yep, green wire is the hot line for the blinkers that's mostly covered by black insulation

I'll shoot some pics in the morning if I remember and post 'em up.

[mattyg909]

I actually just cut off the stock blinker wire and attatched the blue and yellow to the green hot wire with a connector butt. The tail light is working fine but the blinkers just stay on and dont blink when they are turned on. Any suggestions as to which turn signal flash relay to get?

[Momaru]

Ok, I'm a loser and just went outside in my pajamas to get you some pics.

As I mentioned, I routed the blue & yellow blinker LED wires down thru the wiring port in the mudguard and into the stock blinker housings.

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I've got closeups of the left stock blinker housing with the green wire as hot (the shorter one), blue as LED 'hot' (looped all the way around the bulb for some slack) and black/yellow (ground) just barely visible.

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I just worked the blue prong under the heat-shrink of the green and zip-tied it in place.

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No individual grounding needed for the LEDs as (I think) they share a ground with the brake light.
If you're removing the stock blinkers, I imagine you could just pull all the wiring thru the mudguard and join it directly or even just splice. I'm a fan of reversible mods though so I got a little creative.

Also be careful with the bulb adapter for the brake light. I had to re-solder the ground because I kinda mangled mine Still works like a champ though!

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Hope this helps!