HID headlights

[Dr. Ew]

Originally Posted by trevor_shiggs

You will need H7 HIDs. I ordered just regular ones off ebay. But you will also need H7 Spacers. I had to grind the spacer down on the edges to fit into the ninja housing but works perfect! Just finished the install today.

Spacers:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/H7-HID-Bulb-Holde...item2a0a2635b4

HID kit I ordered:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ht_6186wt_1139

Wtf... I shouldve bought the spacers instead of spending my time dremel'ing the crap out of the spacers that came with the bike...

[trevor_shiggs]

Originally Posted by greatwhiteninja

i would say just go with a digital ballast setup as they are smaller and easier to mount in the fairings.

I find they are harder to mount since they have another little box thing attached to them. (top of the picture) too much stuff to try and bundle up and mount. I had absolutely no problems at all mounting the full size ballast on my ninja. I have also had less problems with the bigger ballasts crapping out. But to each their own.

[greatwhiteninja]

Yeah I dunno mine was easy to mount .. eBay kit , $50 .. digital ballast .. didn't need to remove any fairings or anything , no spacers.. mounted and installed in both lamps in less then a hour and been going strong since .

[CThunder-blue]

8000k will be kinda dark. I would suggest 4300k. Even 6000k is a little low on the lumens, but 8000k is dangerous on a bike. OEM all use 4300K or 3000K. The colors you see are from the lenses they use, not the bulbs themselves. That's why bimmers, mercedes, and the like all have really bright colored HID systems.

[kobachi]

I *highly* recommend the 6000K, H7, 35W kit from http://www.ultimatehidkits.com. I installed this kit in my own bike back in December and it's been fantastic. The ballasts are tiny and were easy to mount just using industrial-strength velcro inside my front fairing. The light color is pure white and the price is right. (Ignore the "$129 sale ends Aug 3" bullshit, the "sale" is always happening.)

The only gotcha is that the spacer they provide is for a car and you need to dremel it down yourself to fit in the bike receptacle...but it sounds like that's the case with most kits.

And no, I don't work for them

[MotoED]

Hey Ninjetters,

Im thinking of buying some HID's for my Ninjette. I would like to know how will different color temps look. For example.. 6Ks,8ks,10Ks etc..

If you have some HID's on your Ninjette, and if you have the time, post up some pics of your bike with the HID's on and what color temp are they. Also, which HID brand would you recommend? I just like to do a little research before spending some hard earned cash lol

Thanks!

[kenji_808]

Originally Posted by MotoED

Hey Ninjetters,

Im thinking of buying some HID's for my Ninjette. I would like to know how will different color temps look. For example.. 6Ks,8ks,10Ks etc..

If you have some HID's on your Ninjette, and if you have the time, post up some pics of your bike with the HID's on and what color temp are they. Also, which HID brand would you recommend? I just like to do a little research before spending some hard earned cash lol

Thanks!

ive got these installed on my cars and my ninja 250....i run 5000k because its the closet to OEM hid bulbs which are 4300k(less attention from LE) also it produces the most amount of lumens.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W

[Cuongism]

DDM Tuning is also localish to you as they have a store in Huntington. Most people get the kits from them and they have lifetime warranties on their bulbs if you keep the receipt. 35W 5k or 6k seems the norm.

[MotoED]

thanks for the link to DDM Tuning. Will mos'def will be stopping by to check em out! Thanks guys

[greatwhiteninja]

ebay.. $45 kit, been running for a few mos now.. same with my car, ebay.. been running almost a year now no issues.. and i run 8k..

[massacremasses]

im probably gonna get a retro fit done for me from this guy. www.sickhids.com he's up here in norcal and seems pretty legit, so we will see...

http://www.sickhids.com/apps/photos/...otoid=78032467

[MotoED]

Originally Posted by greatwhiteninja

ebay.. $45 kit, been running for a few mos now.. same with my car, ebay.. been running almost a year now no issues.. and i run 8k..

..digging those LED's.
Yea those 8k's do look nice. Not tooo blue.. lol

thanks for your pic, greatwhiteninja

[MotoED]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

im probably gonna get a retro fit done for me from this guy. www.sickhids.com he's up here in norcal and seems pretty legit, so we will see...

http://www.sickhids.com/apps/photos/...otoid=78032467

dam.. those do look sik! Let me know when theyre on.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by MotoED

dam.. those do look sik! Let me know when theyre on.

ha those arent mine but thats pretty much exactly what im gonna have him do... IF I get them... stupid money... I never have enough! lol

hopefully my side job will pick up soon!!!

[gadgetguy1288]

Originally Posted by kenji_808

ive got these installed on my cars and my ninja 250....i run 5000k because its the closet to OEM hid bulbs which are 4300k(less attention from LE) also it produces the most amount of lumens.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W

Does the 250 need the 35w or 55w kit? What about the other options on their site?(HID Harness, Error eliminator, adapter cables) Are any of these necessary?

[MotoED]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

ha those arent mine but thats pretty much exactly what im gonna have him do... IF I get them... stupid money... I never have enough! lol

hopefully my side job will pick up soon!!!

Those look really sik man. Must be expensive. But worth the money. Thanks for the link. Now I'm thinking of either buying HID's or this kit. lol.

[Trailerboy531]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

im probably gonna get a retro fit done for me from this guy. www.sickhids.com he's up here in norcal and seems pretty legit, so we will see...

http://www.sickhids.com/apps/photos/...otoid=78032467

This site alone made me slightly rethink getting a Gixxer just because I love the look of the two seperate lights he does.

also, Ed, I have the DDM tuning 6K HIDs in my bike and they look great - very crisp. One thing though: don't leave the key in on the position before turning the bike on for too long, those fuses pop fast!

[MotoED]

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

This site alone made me slightly rethink getting a Gixxer just because I love the look of the two seperate lights he does.

also, Ed, I have the DDM tuning 6K HIDs in my bike and they look great - very crisp. One thing though: don't leave the key in on the position before turning the bike on for too long, those fuses pop fast!

The site's products are freakin' sik! I'm really thinking about just buying one of these lights instead. But idk if they ship or if I'll have to go all the way to NorCal to purchase and install em.

Thanks a lot for your tip, Max. Do you have some pics of your bike showin off the 6Ks? Would love to see em.

Thanks!

[Trailerboy531]

I don't have any pics, it's hard to get them since the lights just look all blurry in a picture. You'll have to come ride with us and see them in person

Also you don't buy lights from them - each set is custom ordered. YOU tell them what you want and he does it for you. You ship him your headlight housing and I don't know where I got this number from but $1000ish comes to mind...

[MotoED]

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

I don't have any pics, it's hard to get them since the lights just look all blurry in a picture. You'll have to come ride with us and see them in person

Also you don't buy lights from them - each set is custom ordered. YOU tell them what you want and he does it for you. You ship him your headlight housing and I don't know where I got this number from but $1000ish comes to mind...

definitely on the "wishlist" lol.

I'm down to go riding and check em out! Just let me know..

[Momaru]

I've got 35W Morimoto 5000k's in a home-made bi-xenon projector retrofit. Very pure white light with a little blue when the bulbs are warming up. I'm on the lead bike here.


There's a DIY on the forum by CThunder-Blue for doing your own retrofit if you're handy with tools. Took me some time, but I've been extremely happy with the results.

Re: 35W or 55W, I've never had cause to complain about my 35s and they put out a disturbing amount of light with a lot of heat too. To the point that my hand literally gets warm if I just put my hand in the light a couple feet from the headlight. I'd personally be afraid of 55W bulbs melting something in the housing, over the long term. Haven't heard of anything like that, but there's my Also worth noting that the 55W washes out color, so the rule of thumb I've been told is that if you want the color of a 6000k 35W bulb at 55W, get an 8000K.

[greatwhiteninja]

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

This site alone made me slightly rethink getting a Gixxer just because I love the look of the two seperate lights he does.

also, Ed, I have the DDM tuning 6K HIDs in my bike and they look great - very crisp. One thing though: don't leave the key in on the position before turning the bike on for too long, those fuses pop fast!

are yours 55w? ive left mine on for i know at least 10mins with the bike off and never experienced any fuses blowing.. mine are 35w also.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by MotoED

Those look really sik man. Must be expensive. But worth the money. Thanks for the link. Now I'm thinking of either buying HID's or this kit. lol.

its not cheap... he quoted me a little over 500 with angel eyes... which I would want...

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by MotoED

The site's products are freakin' sik! I'm really thinking about just buying one of these lights instead. But idk if they ship or if I'll have to go all the way to NorCal to purchase and install em.

Thanks a lot for your tip, Max. Do you have some pics of your bike showin off the 6Ks? Would love to see em.

Thanks!

oops just saw this one too. Shoot him an email if youre serious, just remember it will be in the 500ish range. He will ship anywhere and will tell you what you will be paying for shipping up front. He seems pretty professional.

[Momaru]

I'm now very curious to see his build, quality and components. I spent bloody near $500 just on parts doing for my retrofit.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by Momaru

I'm now very curious to see his build, quality and components. I spent bloody near $500 just on parts doing for my retrofit.

> The 09 Ninja 250R 55 Watt SLIM HID / Bi-Xenon Projector Retro-Fit is $450/pair
Includes: 2 - MM-R High Performance 2.5" Bi-Xenon (Hi/Lo) Projectors (installed)
(2-Lo Beams & 2-Hi Beams)
2 - Chrome Gatling Projector Shrouds (installed)
2 - 55 Watt Philips HID Bulbs - 3500hrs life expectancy (3 times Halogen life)
Any color temp = 3000k, 5000k, 6000k, 8000k, 10000k, 12000k (installed)
2 - 55 Watt ApexCone Digital SLIM HID Ballasts (40% BRIGHTER than 35w HID & 5 TIMES Halogen output)
1 - Pre-wired Lo Beam switch with "pilot light" to operate Lo Beams manually
(stock Hi Beam switch on handle bar will operate Hi Beams)
1 - 100% "PLUG & PLAY" (separately fused) relay harnesses with labeled connections & install tips
*** All HID & Projector components include a "lifetime manufacturer's warranty"
*** All labor (assembly, wiring, etc) includes a one year warranty!

> CCFL Angel Eyes option = $75/pair
(available in white, blue, red, green)

> Audi Style LEDs option = $60/pair
(available in Super White (5000k-6000k), Orange/Amber, red, blue, green)
(3mm Standard LEDs, 1/4" Spacing, Strip is approx 5mm x 10mm)

> Ultra Slim / Super Bright Audi Style SMT LEDs option = $75/pair
(available in Super White ONLY > 6000k-8000k - other colors available by special order > ADD $15/pair)
(.5mm SMT LEDs, 3/4" Spacing, Strip is approx 1mm x 5mm)

> SMT LED Halos option = $75/pair
(printed circuit board halo/disc with multiple forward firing SMT LEDs)

> Blackout option = $75/pair extra (reflectors only) - $100/pair (reflectors & projector shrouds)
(sand-blast & coat with Ceramic Black Enamel > 2 days extra work)

> Formed ABS Bezels option = $80/pair
(matte black, textured, ABS formed over entire lamp)

> Devil Eyes option = is (projectors can be lit "in color of choice" when HIDs are "off") = $60/pair extra
(colors available = red, blue, green, amber) (includes auto on/off modules)

> Pre-wired switches option (to override Angel Eyes, LEDs, other mods, etc) will be $20 extra per/switch.
*Otherwise, extra mods (CCFLs, LEDs, etc) will be "on" (as DRLs) with ignition (pre-wired).

> Shipping is $15 (Cal Res)

*** Payments must be made with PayPal, ONLY.

Current "estimated" turn around time is approx 6-10 weeks (depending on mods/options). You'll be updated with progress reports & pics throughout the retro-fit. You'll receive notification of shipping with tracking. Btw, I can build "custom" by request, however you want (prices vary). Please feel free to contact me directly anytime with any questions, to discuss specifics, or to place a custom order. You may also call, (7 days 8am-6pm PST). I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Have a great day!



this is what he sent me so hope it helps

[Mr.E]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

Current "estimated" turn around time is approx 6-10 weeks (depending on mods/options).

Didnt notice this before. That would be my only set back :-\ In Florida I doubt I'd be off the bike for that long, and it's my main mode of transportation now. :-\ I couldnt ride around without headlights.

[Momaru]

Originally Posted by Mr.E

Didnt notice this before. That would be my only set back :-\ In Florida I doubt I'd be off the bike for that long, and it's my main mode of transportation now. :-\ I couldnt ride around without headlights.

You could buy another stock headlight (~100-180 on ebay, 400-ish new IIRC) to either use temporarily while they retrofit your original one, or to send in for the retrofit. Then just sell the remaining one afterward if you don't want to/can't afford to keep it around as backup.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by Mr.E

Didnt notice this before. That would be my only set back :-\ In Florida I doubt I'd be off the bike for that long, and it's my main mode of transportation now. :-\ I couldnt ride around without headlights.

yeah this is why Ill be getting it done in Dec... if I can. Not much riding in Dec. up here.

[venmichaels]

I do mostly night riding, and I want to get some better lights.

Anyone have a good website that they use?

I want good quality hid lights
Any suggestions on what rating i should get? 4k, 5k? 35watt??

Im a complete noob!

[greatwhiteninja]

ebay. 35watt, i rarely ever use both lights at night, even on back roads..loL! as for color.. its all personal prefrence. i use 8k others seem to like 4.5k and 6k.

[Alex]

/merged

[GreenNinja123]

I got mine from here:

http://www.kryptonbulbs.com/HID-kits...its/H7-HID-kit

$50usd shipped

get the 35w for sure
very slim ballast (which helps the installation)

I went with the 6k but if i can choose again , I will go with 5k or lower
6k (for this brand at least) is a bit too blu-ish for my liking.

hope it helps.

[venmichaels]

do our bikes have the h7 bulb?? i dont know which one to select...

[Momaru]

Yes, stock we're using the H7 bulb type, so that's the base you want to use

[weezer_120]

Hi guys. I'm buying a 2011 Ninja 250r here in a week or two. I definitely want the HID's and i was needing to know exactly what i need and the cheapest way to do it. Thanks!

[massacremasses]

Using the search function helps

there are a number of ways, just using HID bulbs without projectors or doing a projector retro fit. The later is the better of the 2 options

[weezer_120]

I was looking but all i saw were threads for earlier models. i'm new to all this so i wasn't sure if 2011's were any different.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by weezer_120

I was looking but all i saw were threads for earlier models. i'm new to all this so i wasn't sure if 2011's were any different.

there are basically two models.

pregens and newgens

you have a newgen 2008+

So if youre in the 2008+ section you are golden they are all the same in that aspect, colors are about the only thing different.

[weezer_120]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

there are basically two models.

pregens and newgens

you have a newgen 2008+

So if youre in the 2008+ section you are golden they are all the same in that aspect, colors are about the only thing different.

ok great. thanks. much appreciated!