July 21st, 2015, 05:31 PM | #1 |
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July 21st, 2015, 05:42 PM | #2 |
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Purty. Where'd you get it?
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July 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM | #3 |
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More important, why are your first farkles going onto a bare bike? Care to share more of your project?
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July 21st, 2015, 05:47 PM | #4 |
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July 21st, 2015, 06:50 PM | #5 |
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July 21st, 2015, 07:14 PM | #6 |
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July 21st, 2015, 07:19 PM | #7 |
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did it come with the clear hose?
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July 21st, 2015, 07:27 PM | #8 | |
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I have a couple of other bits that are getting close but mostly I've just been cleaning and fixing. Everything was filthy but is cleaning up nicely. The carbs had never been touched. I put a 110 main and .040 under the needle. Should be a good enough starting point. The intake valves were set good but all four of the exhaust were tight. Go figure. I'm waiting on an o-ring so I can button that up. |
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July 21st, 2015, 07:31 PM | #9 |
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McMaster Carr, http://www.mcmaster.com/#5103k45/=y5n004
It's one of the reasons I wanted to get that done early. Just to make sure it's really going to hold up. If it fails, I'll let you know. |
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July 21st, 2015, 07:59 PM | #10 |
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0.040, so about 2 washers?
What intake setup are you going with where you're choosing that as your first take on jetting? |
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July 22nd, 2015, 07:25 AM | #11 |
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July 22nd, 2015, 07:47 AM | #12 |
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i found you the front reservoir and master cylinder combo.
at amazon: |
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July 22nd, 2015, 08:57 AM | #13 |
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That's actually what I bought. I just modified it for the back and tossed the rest.
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July 22nd, 2015, 09:28 AM | #14 |
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you tossed the levers?
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July 22nd, 2015, 09:52 AM | #15 |
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No, sorry, I didn't realize they were part of the package. Mine was just the reservoir, bracket and several hose barbs, non of which fit. |
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July 22nd, 2015, 03:23 PM | #16 |
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Why did you switch to 110 mains with the stock setup? The stock 105 is already a little rich. The mid range will love you for those 2 washers, but the top end will be soggy.
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Stock size jets, with the 2 washers should be more than enough, unless you have access to an exhaust gas analyzer. Just dial in the idle mixture screws, and your set. Quote:
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July 22nd, 2015, 04:17 PM | #18 |
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July 22nd, 2015, 04:35 PM | #19 | |
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To tell the truth, I was a bit puzzled by it as well. My experience with this type carb has been they tend to have trouble at the other end. That is with the slow jet in order to help out the transition off idle. Shimming the needle helps it get on the needle quicker and keeps it richer throughout the midrange. I suspect .040 is a bit much but I'd rather start rich and work my way down then start lean. I didn't really ride it much before taking it apart so I'm not really sure how it's running. I managed to get a lot of pinging at the low end but I think that was just me not being used to having to stir the shifter that much. |
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I think you need to do less reading and more experimenting to see for yourself how each change affects things. Because I really think that main jet is not a good starting point for a sock intake. The best starting point for a stock intake is the stock 105...
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July 22nd, 2015, 07:25 PM | #21 |
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July 31st, 2015, 08:00 AM | #22 |
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Well that failed.
I've had brake fluid in the reservoir for 10 days now and the plastic window has turned milky and has developed a couple of cracks.
In general, it is very well made. The CNC work is good, the anodizing is nice and even, the diaphragm in the lid is excellent and even the mold for the plastic window was good. To shoot the wrong plastic into that mold was quite an oversight. |
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August 27th, 2015, 07:26 PM | #23 |
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One Last Update.
I complained to the seller. I felt the inability of the brake reservoir to hold brake fluid was a major shortcoming. He sent me a new plastic cup and assured me it was a different polymer and should hold up. I soaked it in brake fluid for a couple of weeks and though it didn't turn cloudy, it did develop a couple of small cracks. Nothing major but I just didn't trust it. Nothing can ruin your day faster than seeing brake fluid spilled all over your new paint.
So, I did what I should have done in the fist place. I flushed out the system and filled it with purple stuff (dot 5). All is well, it looks great. |
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What part of norcal are you in? I'd love to finally meet another ninjetter from the site.
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Uhhh... our manual says not to use DOT 5...
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You can convert to DOT 5, which is silicone based, but you MUST flush the system, tons of how-to's out there, I went with DOT 5.1 which is synthetic based, and 100% compatible with DOT 3&4 systems, without all the fuss, but a better fluid.
I tried the Motul in SERENITY when I got her and rebuilt everything, so far so good. I don't know if I really needed it, but it nice to have it, just in case. https://m.motul.com/ca/en-us/product...-1-brake-fluid Quote:
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^^ Interesting. I never knew you could switch between the two.
Personally, I used to use DOT 5.1 but when I swapped out my MC and serviced the calipers, I had trouble finding it locally and didn't want to wait for shipping so I went with normal DOT 4 I found in the store. Works fine. I can tell it gets spongey faster than the 5.1, but I'm not at the track this season so it doesn't really matter. |
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August 28th, 2015, 07:55 AM | #28 |
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Dot 5 is ALL about not attacking stuff and long term stability. No need for special rubber, hoses, plastic reservoirs or paint. No need to change it every couple of years. It won't eat your skin.
It is NOT to be used in high performance applications. It can't take the heat. It is totally incompatible with other brake fluid. If you're going to convert to it, it's best to at least disassemble the major components to flush them. I flush first with water, then alcohol, then blow air thru it and finally let dry for a couple of days just to be sure. Having said that, a lot of people have successfully just ran dot 5 thru the system for at least two flushes. Classic car owners are switching to it a lot. Anything that sits for a long period of time is a good candidate. |
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This isn't meant as a slam against Harley, simply identifying the fact that their technology is circa 1970...
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As it came from the dealer the Sportster actually handled better than the Ninja. Of course this is just comparing bad to abysmal. I expect the Ninja to handle better once I've done everything to it than I did to the Sportster but it's half the size. Kawasaki has their own design throwbacks. The controls on the Ninja are straight out of the 70's. The turn signals are still a PIA and don't self cancel. Mine even has a mechanical speedometer. Do the new ones? Will they ever come up with a side stand that doesn't fold up if you roll foreword a bit? I'm not knocking Kawasaki, this is my third one. Just setting the record straight. |
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FWIW, I know some of the guys who worked out the manufacturing for a couple of Harley's blocks and a couple new guys who work with the same company. No slouches there.
I still make fun of Harley's. They don't appreciate my sense of humor. I can't figure out why. |
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August 28th, 2015, 07:13 PM | #34 |
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Thank the deities they never produced that.
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Concerning the Sportster handling better than the ninja, not sure what you mean by this. Sure, the 250 is under sprung, but at least it doesn't come from the factory with posted lean angle numbers, which, might I add, aren't the same for both sides. Yes, I've ridden a Sportster. Is it a fantastic platform to build a capable bike out of? Absolutely! Would it take more money than a 250? Absolutely!
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