Why you should get framesliders PRONTO!

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 09:59 PM

...was about to head out to get some dinner when I realized I had forgotten my phone in my room. Put the bike back in neutral, jumped off, went to the front door and asked my roommate to keep a look out as I run upstairs. It took me about two minutes to get into my room, find my phone and step out of the front door. What I found waiting for me...sheesh...suffice it to say my heart freaking sunk! The scene that awaited me was of my baby lying on her side, leaking gas like tears of pain and my roomy wringing her hands with her face turned crimson. I rushed over, picked my bike up...deaf to the world and the repeated cries of "I'm so sorry" from my roommate. As I write this, I'm surprised at how calmly I reacted even though I was a boiling pot of rage inside, or I would be looking for a new roommate now...She thought she would sit on my bike and await my return...and as she put it, as she swung her legs over the seat and tried to right the bike, it toppled over on the opposite side. FVck! I'm getting pissed just sitting here writing this, lucky b!tch is sleeping like a baby in the other room.

...but hey, she's promised to do my laundry for a month AND clean my room

(all of it her idea of making it up to me) can't deny I'm not inwardly pleased lol ...and the bike's not that damaged as can be seen from the pics below...
POINT: Before you go about tricking your bike out like I did mine (rearsets, koso gauge, clip ons, ss brake lines, integrated taillight, flush signals + front leds, cowl, HIDs, stickers, hugger, rim strips, headlight splitter, shorties, slip-on, pre-load adjusters (not installed yet) plenty of miscellaneous cosmetic ish ...) BUY FRAME SLIDERS! I'm getting the shogun ones ASAP. Learn from my lack of proper prioritizing folks.
Here's the damage...ahem...scratches I mean

and I guess I'm partly to blame for not having at least taught her how to properly mount (pun intended) lol. F(*&# MY LIFE!

Jiggles · July 23rd, 2012, 10:02 PM

Do your laundry must be some sort of sexual innuendo I've never heard of before

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Do your laundry must be some sort of sexual innuendo I've never heard of before

haha! hopefully it is...I'd like to tap it, if she was down with some 'extra-relationship' relationship lol. Anyway, it was put on the table and I didn't blink and took it. *shrug*

Monkeytofu · July 23rd, 2012, 10:09 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fix-It-Pro-C...item3377ace92d

should fix all those scratches with an application or two.

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeytofu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fix-It-Pro-C...item3377ace92d

should fix all those scratches with an application or two.

yo! sweet! I was thinking about getting some sort of filler and then covering it with paint from colorite...hmm...do you think cover-up paint from colorite would adhere to this clear coat?

Monkeytofu · July 23rd, 2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EthioKnight

yo! sweet! I was thinking about getting some sort of filler and then covering it with paint from colorite...hmm...do you think cover-up paint from colorite would adhere to this clear coat?

I couldn't say 100% but I don't see why not. If you wanted to be sure you could sand the area a bit before hand.

It doesn't look like your roommate damaged anything other than your clear coat though since it's only snowy white. You'd see traces of primer/ the black plastic if you really needed to touch up with paint.

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeytofu

I couldn't say but I don't see why not. If you wanted to be sure you could sand the area a bit before hand.

It doesn't look like your roommate damaged anything other than your clear coat though since it's only snowy white. You'd see traces of primer/ the black plastic if you really needed to touch up with paint.

Thanks! I'll order a pair now. There are some dark chips on the very bottom of the fairing though, so I'll get a colorite pen for that. THANKS

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 10:24 PM

Not too concerned about the scratches on my shorties and the bar end (which I'll be replacing soon enough), but any ideas on covering up scratches on anodized aluminum? nail polish?

Jiggles · July 23rd, 2012, 10:28 PM

moar stickers

Monkeytofu · July 23rd, 2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EthioKnight

Not too concerned about the scratches on my shorties and the bar end (which I'll be replacing soon enough), but any ideas on covering up scratches on anodized aluminum? nail polish?

the scratches are so small you could probably get away with painting them over with any paint that would adhere to metal. Your roommate took the opportunity to rough up the surface for you (

) so I'm guessing you'd just need to clean with alcohol then very lightly touch up the area with a paint marker. You might want to find a way to dilute it to so it's not too thick, but a thin layer of something like a sharpie paint marker usually isn't fully opaque. Just try to absorb some of the extra paint with a paper towel.

Jono · July 23rd, 2012, 10:32 PM

Just slap some more stickers on there.

Edit: Jiggles beat me too it.

I need to start refreshing pages before I post.

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 10:36 PM

lol on the stickers. I think @Monkeytofu takes the cake on this one as well.

Vergil · July 23rd, 2012, 10:52 PM

Roommates are replaceable. Bikes aren't. She's gotta go

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vergil

Roommates are replaceable. Bikes aren't. She's gotta go

I know...I was tempted to say something like that to her...the lease is in my name and everything, so that should have been easy...but, hey, I have a soft heart for them females bro...and you should have seen her freckled face all red and puffy lol. Curiosity got the best of her, and I'm going to drag her to the bike 2morrow and really show her how to safely sit on it.

Old Lemon · July 23rd, 2012, 11:11 PM

Was thinking about getting some sliders along with a koso. What would everyone recommend?

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 11:24 PM

My top choices were the T-Rex ones or the Shogun ones. The T-rexs have affordability going for them but are currently out of stock (everywhere!), so I have opted for the shogun ones (best mounting place giving best protection, though being pricier). You get what you pay for and can't possibly go wrong with shoguns. (slight "cutting" necessary though).

Jiggles · July 23rd, 2012, 11:26 PM

Frame sliders scratched my engine when I crashed

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Frame sliders scratched my engine when I crashed

which ones?...the good ones are supposed to break, thereby dissipating the force that would otherwise bend frames or..in your case, **** up the engine.

Jiggles · July 23rd, 2012, 11:35 PM

Well my bike didn't slide it lifted into the air and fell directly on the frame slider breaking it and scratching the engine. It was just a scratch on the engine though lol.

And question, if they are supposed to break, wouldn't that destroy the fairing? It's a very narrow space where they stick out

EthioKnight · July 23rd, 2012, 11:38 PM

well..in the case of zero-speed drops like the one my baby suffered, they'd hold up I'd guess and not break. I was thinking more of a femur crunching crash like yours

...starts looking at pics of sliders to measure angles and possible fairing damage if they brake...

Skippii · July 24th, 2012, 02:34 AM

Dude, what the hell???
All the pics of your bike and none of the roommate???

EthioKnight · July 24th, 2012, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippii

Dude, what the hell???
All the pics of your bike and none of the roommate???

I think you're forgetting that it was my bike that ended up hurt and scratched up lol..I'll see if I can sneak a pic if her though

choneofakind · July 24th, 2012, 07:33 AM

Extra points if you can get in on that picture like a creep without her knowing.
Posted via Mobile Device

CZroe · July 24th, 2012, 08:44 AM

Use a little rubbing compound before the other fix-it stuff.

koenigcitizen · July 24th, 2012, 09:09 AM

Just to voice another opinion on frame sliders. To me the answer on frame sliders is no. To each their own.

Sorry your bike got dropped.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_..._frame_sliders

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 10:03 AM

Thats a response to the pregen though

FrugalNinja250 · July 24th, 2012, 10:24 AM

The downside to sliders is if they hit or catch anything like a curb, crack, edge of a manhole, etc, the frame's going to get bent, thus likely totaling the bike.

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 10:28 AM

These bikes get totaled by tipping them over. Honestly any crash over 10mph will probably total the bike

bdavison · July 24th, 2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Thats a response to the pregen though

read further.....

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 10:35 AM

Says nothing about the newgen

lgk · July 24th, 2012, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

These bikes get totaled by tipping them over. Honestly any crash over 10mph will probably total the bike

i dont know about 10mph but my friend wrecked at 15mph and the insurance totalled it.
just ended up being fairing damage.

any dents in the wheels and a scratch in the spools they will total it as well.

ZackoFF96 · July 24th, 2012, 04:05 PM

slap some more stickers

1 sticker = +1 Horsepower

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackoFF96

slap some more stickers

1 sticker = +1 Horsepower

I don't think that's true...

Gurk · July 24th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Here's my crash :

Link to original page on YouTube.

Frame slider on the left catches the dirt and flips the bike over...
Therefore, F@CK framesliders. Never again. They are good for 0-5mph drops nothing else.

alex.s · July 24th, 2012, 04:45 PM

i would rather bang up my fairings than bend up my frame. no sliders on my bikes.

sliders are more useful on yamahas that have tanks that bang and open up and catch the bike on fire.

7oxSin · July 24th, 2012, 05:19 PM

**** that sucks, you should get a "im sorry" blow job, or at least a handy j. sorry bout ur bike, i just finish sanding all the crap outta mine, from PO.

EthioKnight · July 24th, 2012, 05:37 PM

That sucked @Gurk...and now I find myself freaking conflicted.

Little Green Machine · July 24th, 2012, 05:45 PM

Hey, I know it sounds cheesy, but take a magic marker to the scratches in the anodized stuff, then wipe it off. Stuff stays down in scratches and takes the noticability away.

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 05:48 PM

Tell your room mate that insurance is trying to total your bike and the only way you can keep it is if she blows you

Monkeytofu · July 24th, 2012, 05:49 PM

Your safest best is what @koenigcitizen suggested:

July 23rd, 2012, 09:59 PM	#1
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	Why you should get framesliders PRONTO! ...was about to head out to get some dinner when I realized I had forgotten my phone in my room. Put the bike back in neutral, jumped off, went to the front door and asked my roommate to keep a look out as I run upstairs. It took me about two minutes to get into my room, find my phone and step out of the front door. What I found waiting for me...sheesh...suffice it to say my heart freaking sunk! The scene that awaited me was of my baby lying on her side, leaking gas like tears of pain and my roomy wringing her hands with her face turned crimson. I rushed over, picked my bike up...deaf to the world and the repeated cries of "I'm so sorry" from my roommate. As I write this, I'm surprised at how calmly I reacted even though I was a boiling pot of rage inside, or I would be looking for a new roommate now...She thought she would sit on my bike and await my return...and as she put it, as she swung her legs over the seat and tried to right the bike, it toppled over on the opposite side. FVck! I'm getting pissed just sitting here writing this, lucky b!tch is sleeping like a baby in the other room. ...but hey, she's promised to do my laundry for a month AND clean my room (all of it her idea of making it up to me) can't deny I'm not inwardly pleased lol ...and the bike's not that damaged as can be seen from the pics below... POINT: Before you go about tricking your bike out like I did mine (rearsets, koso gauge, clip ons, ss brake lines, integrated taillight, flush signals + front leds, cowl, HIDs, stickers, hugger, rim strips, headlight splitter, shorties, slip-on, pre-load adjusters (not installed yet) plenty of miscellaneous cosmetic ish ...) BUY FRAME SLIDERS! I'm getting the shogun ones ASAP. Learn from my lack of proper prioritizing folks. Here's the damage...ahem...scratches I mean and I guess I'm partly to blame for not having at least taught her how to properly mount (pun intended) lol. F(&# MY LIFE! __________________________________________________ My Videos Last futzed with by EthioKnight; July 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 PM.*

July 23rd, 2012, 10:02 PM	#2
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Do your laundry must be some sort of sexual innuendo I've never heard of before __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 23rd, 2012, 10:24 PM	#8
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	Not too concerned about the scratches on my shorties and the bar end (which I'll be replacing soon enough), but any ideas on covering up scratches on anodized aluminum? nail polish? __________________________________________________ My Videos

July 23rd, 2012, 10:28 PM	#9
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	moar stickers __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 23rd, 2012, 10:36 PM	#12
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	lol on the stickers. I think @Monkeytofu takes the cake on this one as well. __________________________________________________ My Videos

July 23rd, 2012, 10:09 PM	#4
Monkeytofu I told you bro Name: Noor Location: Austin, Texas Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1996 Ninja 250r Posts: 680	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fix-It-Pro-C...item3377ace92d should fix all those scratches with an application or two.

July 23rd, 2012, 10:32 PM	#11
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Just slap some more stickers on there. Edit: Jiggles beat me too it. I need to start refreshing pages before I post.

July 23rd, 2012, 10:52 PM	#13
Vergil Laser Quest Name: Austin Location: Ventura county Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Black Ninja 250r Posts: 245	Roommates are replaceable. Bikes aren't. She's gotta go

July 23rd, 2012, 11:11 PM	#15
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Was thinking about getting some sliders along with a koso. What would everyone recommend?

July 23rd, 2012, 11:24 PM	#16
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	My top choices were the T-Rex ones or the Shogun ones. The T-rexs have affordability going for them but are currently out of stock (everywhere!), so I have opted for the shogun ones (best mounting place giving best protection, though being pricier). You get what you pay for and can't possibly go wrong with shoguns. (slight "cutting" necessary though). __________________________________________________ My Videos

July 23rd, 2012, 11:26 PM	#17
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Frame sliders scratched my engine when I crashed __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 23rd, 2012, 11:35 PM	#19
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Well my bike didn't slide it lifted into the air and fell directly on the frame slider breaking it and scratching the engine. It was just a scratch on the engine though lol. And question, if they are supposed to break, wouldn't that destroy the fairing? It's a very narrow space where they stick out __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 23rd, 2012, 11:38 PM	#20
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	well..in the case of zero-speed drops like the one my baby suffered, they'd hold up I'd guess and not break. I was thinking more of a femur crunching crash like yours ...starts looking at pics of sliders to measure angles and possible fairing damage if they brake... __________________________________________________ My Videos

July 24th, 2012, 02:34 AM	#21
Skippii Milkshake Drinker Name: Skippii Location: Richmond, Va Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Orange DRZ400-S, 2005 Ninja 250 & Custom Thundercunt Dirt Chopper Posts: A lot.	Dude, what the hell??? All the pics of your bike and none of the roommate??? __________________________________________________ "What a sweetheart."- ninja_sleeper to me

July 24th, 2012, 07:33 AM	#23
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Extra points if you can get in on that picture like a creep without her knowing. Posted via Mobile Device

July 24th, 2012, 08:44 AM	#24
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Use a little rubbing compound before the other fix-it stuff.

July 24th, 2012, 09:09 AM	#25
koenigcitizen Russian Ninja :) Name: Andrei Location: Ocean City, MD Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Triumph Street Triple R, 2009 Yamaha FZ6, 2010 Kawi 250r (sold) Posts: 335	Just to voice another opinion on frame sliders. To me the answer on frame sliders is no. To each their own. Sorry your bike got dropped. http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_..._frame_sliders __________________________________________________ 2009 Fazer (2009 Yamaha FZ6), 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

July 24th, 2012, 10:03 AM	#26
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Thats a response to the pregen though __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 24th, 2012, 10:24 AM	#27
FrugalNinja250 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Frugal Location: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: A lot.	The downside to sliders is if they hit or catch anything like a curb, crack, edge of a manhole, etc, the frame's going to get bent, thus likely totaling the bike.

July 24th, 2012, 10:28 AM	#28
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	These bikes get totaled by tipping them over. Honestly any crash over 10mph will probably total the bike __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 24th, 2012, 10:35 AM	#30
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Says nothing about the newgen __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 24th, 2012, 04:05 PM	#32
ZackoFF96 ninjette.org member Name: Zacko Location: Asia Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 84	slap some more stickers 1 sticker = +1 Horsepower

July 24th, 2012, 04:39 PM	#34
Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Here's my crash : Link to original page on YouTube. Frame slider on the left catches the dirt and flips the bike over... Therefore, F@CK framesliders. Never again. They are good for 0-5mph drops nothing else.

July 24th, 2012, 04:45 PM	#35
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i would rather bang up my fairings than bend up my frame. no sliders on my bikes. sliders are more useful on yamahas that have tanks that bang and open up and catch the bike on fire. __________________________________________________

July 24th, 2012, 05:19 PM	#36
7oxSin MSF Coach! Name: Lupe Location: Antioch, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 ninja 250 Posts: 886	** that sucks, you should get a "im sorry" blow job, or at least a handy j. sorry bout ur bike, i just finish sanding all the crap outta mine, from PO. __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered wanna ride the dragon? Ninjette group ride! May 16th-20th Join the Ride!!http://www.ninjette.org/forums/group.php?groupid=35**

July 24th, 2012, 05:37 PM	#37
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	That sucked @Gurk...and now I find myself freaking conflicted. __________________________________________________ My Videos

July 24th, 2012, 05:45 PM	#38
Little Green Machine Love my kittehs! Name: Bill Location: San Tan Valley, AZ Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R SE Posts: 266	Hey, I know it sounds cheesy, but take a magic marker to the scratches in the anodized stuff, then wipe it off. Stuff stays down in scratches and takes the noticability away. __________________________________________________ Do you play on XBL? Do you play Halo 4 or COD Black Ops 2? PM me and I will give you my gamertag!

July 24th, 2012, 05:48 PM	#39
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Tell your room mate that insurance is trying to total your bike and the only way you can keep it is if she blows you __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 24th, 2012, 05:49 PM	#40
Monkeytofu I told you bro Name: Noor Location: Austin, Texas Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1996 Ninja 250r Posts: 680	Your safest best is what @koenigcitizen suggested: