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Old April 9th, 2017, 11:21 PM   #1
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Question 2010 Ninja 250R

I am new to this site and pleased to find an awesome forum for this bike... But I have a very odd issues. Now to show my level of knowledge with bikes I know tools and google, and some what about cars basics and bike basic. So I’m sorry I come off a little ehh (INSERT FACE PALM). anyways my issue is that every-time i put the bike in gear throttle it and then use just the rear brake the bikes tends to die out. The wheel stop's like it should, but the engine just stalls out. The bike is jacked up wheels off the ground so I can’t see if it’s a normal thing just because it's jacked up? I’m not sure and I can’t run the engine and set the bike off the ground to see. Cause of other issues atm. I just want to know if I should be worried or not.
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Old April 9th, 2017, 11:27 PM   #2
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Welcome Jordan!

It doesn't matter if the bike is off the ground or not. If the bike is in gear and the rear wheel stops, it will stall the engine. Even if your give it plenty of throttle, the brake can overpower the lil engine and stop the wheel, effectively stalling the engine. New riders do this often enough without even using the brake, instead... they let the clutch out too much/fast.
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Old April 10th, 2017, 03:28 AM   #4
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I am new to this site and pleased to find an awesome forum for this bike... But I have a very odd issues. Now to show my level of knowledge with bikes I know tools and google, and some what about cars basics and bike basic. So I’m sorry I come off a little ehh (INSERT FACE PALM). anyways my issue is that every-time i put the bike in gear throttle it and then use just the rear brake the bikes tends to die out. The wheel stop's like it should, but the engine just stalls out. The bike is jacked up wheels off the ground so I can’t see if it’s a normal thing just because it's jacked up? I’m not sure and I can’t run the engine and set the bike off the ground to see. Cause of other issues atm. I just want to know if I should be worried or not.
You might have the side stand down and if so the engine will shut down when you release the clutch. It's a safety feature to prevent you riding off with the side stand down (something I'm famous for). I also recommend that when you get both wheels on the ground you have both feet there also. Use your front brake until you are under way. As a newbie, don't be afraid of the front brake. It provides in excess of 70% of your stopping power. I've purchased used bikes where the rear brake is 1/2 worn out and the front pads are like new. Force yourself to use both the front and rear brake simultaneously. Practice this and it could save your life.
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Old April 10th, 2017, 06:42 AM   #5
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I've purchased used bikes where the rear brake is 1/2 worn out and the front pads are like new.
My 250 had its rear pads worn completely out, and like-new front ones when I got it. No idea if the fronts had been replaced, but I doubt it.

The fastest stop you can make on a Ninja 250 will get the rear wheel off the ground slightly. That tells you how much the rear brake is needed in a hard stop. Now if you're on gravel or another slippery surface, the rear brake comes in very handy.
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Old April 10th, 2017, 06:58 AM   #6
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As a newbie, don't be afraid of the front brake. It provides in excess of 70% of your stopping power. .
and at this level is 100% of braking.

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My 250 had its rear pads worn completely out, and like-new front ones when I got it. No idea if the fronts had been replaced, but I doubt it.

The fastest stop you can make on a Ninja 250 will get the rear wheel off the ground slightly. That tells you how much the rear brake is needed in a hard stop. Now if you're on gravel or another slippery surface, the rear brake comes in very handy.
You're spot-on brother. On the first motorcycle ride of my life I ht the front brake on gravel and down went the bike.
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You've never operated a manual-transmission car, have you?

Chris has it, I think.

Try this: Duplicate the circumstance that causes the bike to die as you describe, but this time pull in the clutch before it does. Betcha it'll keep running.
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Chris has it, I think.

Try this: Duplicate the circumstance that causes the bike to die as you describe, but this time pull in the clutch before it does. Betcha it'll keep running.

Cars have manual transmissions? Since when. Boy, at 69 years of age I guess I can still learn somthin'.
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It doesn't matter if the bike is off the ground or not. If the bike is in gear and the rear wheel stops, it will stall the engine. Even if your give it plenty of throttle, the brake can overpower the lil engine and stop the wheel, effectively stalling the engine. New riders do this often enough without even using the brake, instead... they let the clutch out too much/fast.
Yep,

You need to pull the clutch in when you stomp on the rear brake.
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Old April 12th, 2017, 11:28 AM   #14
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You've never operated a manual-transmission car, have you?

Chris has it, I think.

Try this: Duplicate the circumstance that causes the bike to die as you describe, but this time pull in the clutch before it does. Betcha it'll keep running.
Yes i have driven stick before you hit brake when in gear. the car will stall to be honest i never dawned on me tbh. I feel dumb. I need to make another post unrelated to this. But thank you all for you'r quick replies i mean that. I own an Audi and ppl never get back to me this fast EVER on those forums.
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Glad it was nothing actually wrong with the bike. Now post some ride reports!
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