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Old July 1st, 2020, 05:55 AM   #1
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[webbikeworld.com] - BMW Has a New Adaptive Cruise Control Technology

From Cars to Bikes Soon you could enjoy adaptive cruise control on your motorcycle. The technology has been available on many new cars, but now it is making its way over to motorcycles thanks to BMW. If you’re unfamiliar with this technology, it’s like standard cruise control, but it uses radars and sensors to automatically ...

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Old October 14th, 2020, 07:34 AM   #2
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Ah - I see that BMW is working on this as well (see other thread). But to my knowledge it hasn't been announced for production on any specific machines yet.
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Old October 14th, 2020, 11:23 AM   #3
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Pretty cool!
Although I kinda against technology for our "protection".
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Old October 14th, 2020, 12:45 PM   #4
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Yup - especially if it feels like it puts a filter in between the inputs and the outputs, or if it somehow lessens the experience. But in this case, it's technology that just lowers the required energy to maintain speeds for long distance cruising. Instead of having to come in and out of cruise control manually every time you come up on another vehicle; the speed is managed to track the car ahead until it's clear again to accelerate back up to preferred speed. It quickly becomes addictive for any significant highway cruising in a car, and I can't imagine it would be any different in a motorcycle. It's obviously completely superfluous for any entertaining/aggressive/twisty type riding that generally makes motorcycle riding so enjoyable. But we all are sometimes caught on long highway slogs, and anything to make them safer/faster/more comfortable/less energy draining, all seems like a worthwhile effort.
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Old October 14th, 2020, 12:55 PM   #5
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But we all are sometimes caught on long highway slogs...
I'm not disagreeing with anything in your post, except that in the last 20,000 miles I've put on motorcycles, 50 of those may have been on highways.
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Adaptive Cruise Control on my new Volt has made me a more patient driver, but I feel it's also made me less alert. Since it will just fall in line behind the car ahead of me, it's much less frustrating when someone's going slower - I tend to just fall in behind them since it requires no effort on my part. At lights, it'll automatically come to a stop behind the car in front of me. When the light turns green, I tap the Resume button, and it accelerates behind that car as well. In my experience, the sensors seem to do just as good a job as (or better than) I do at figuring out when it needs to slow/stop, which is not surprising at all to me, with modern computerization. Its biggest weakness seems to be when cars move over into a turn lane - it doesn't seem to realize that they're out of the way and I can continue on. But it seems to err on the side of caution, slowing down unnecessarily rather than plowing ahead at 60mph when it shouldn't. It handles it so well, I think I tend to pay less attention now.

However, I'm aware of that fact enough to remind myself, especially when I'm on the bike, that I do need to pay attention. I'm sure others aren't so self-aware. Just look at the stories of what people are caught doing while Tesla Autopilot is driving...

I'm not sure how I feel about this coming to bikes. I like the idea of having super-human sensors monitoring things, but I dislike that it makes it easier to not pay attention.
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Welp, looks like it's real. BMW just announced the details for the 2021 R1250RT, and ACC is not only offered, it's actually standard equipment. Other goodies include a 10.25" screen, that now includes the navigation as well (so you don't need two screens).

https://riders.drivemag.com/news/thi...ted-than-ever/

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Oh man... a display screen in my view while I'm riding is not in my future. When I was 20 I looked in my rear view mirror too long and rear ended a car that was stopped unexpectedly at a green light because of an ambulance crossing the road. The Toyota was totaled. I had a crash bar on my Kaw H2, and that took almost all the impact. The bike needed new fork tubes and some tank and fender bodywork. The Toyota's rear doors wouldn't close when I got through with it. I spent most of the day in the hospital while they investigated the blood in my urine, and I still have a dent in my left hip.

I keep my cell phone in my jacket pocket and stop when I want to look at CoPilot, or anything else on its display. I also don't want to get a computer making decisions for me, for the reasons @InvisiBill noted.

Adaptive cruise control might be good for long highway trips in a car. I'll have to think about that.
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Adaptive Cruise Control on my new Volt has made me a more patient driver, but I feel it's also made me less alert. Since it will just fall in line behind the car ahead of me, it's much less frustrating when someone's going slower - I tend to just fall in behind them since it requires no effort on my part. At lights, it'll automatically come to a stop behind the car in front of me. When the light turns green, I tap the Resume button, and it accelerates behind that car as well. In my experience, the sensors seem to do just as good a job as (or better than) I do at figuring out when it needs to slow/stop, which is not surprising at all to me, with modern computerization. Its biggest weakness seems to be when cars move over into a turn lane - it doesn't seem to realize that they're out of the way and I can continue on. But it seems to err on the side of caution, slowing down unnecessarily rather than plowing ahead at 60mph when it shouldn't. It handles it so well, I think I tend to pay less attention now.

However, I'm aware of that fact enough to remind myself, especially when I'm on the bike, that I do need to pay attention. I'm sure others aren't so self-aware. Just look at the stories of what people are caught doing while Tesla Autopilot is driving...

I'm not sure how I feel about this coming to bikes. I like the idea of having super-human sensors monitoring things, but I dislike that it makes it easier to not pay attention.
My wife's Hyundai has adaptive cruise control. I like it for the most part, but in heavier traffic it leaves enough of a gap that people cut in front of me and then it slows down. If you are in the left lane it turns you into a slow driver in the left lane.

Adaptive cruise control would be great in heavy traffic if everyone had to use it.
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