R6 vs Ninja 250 - Page 2

alex.s · July 27th, 2012, 11:59 AM

cant find it right now. just search cvma 250

Jiggles · July 27th, 2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by robertkh100

I rode away and before reaching 40 I had to shift 3 times which kind of gets annoying after a while.

Today I shifted my 1000 3 times to get to 50

July 27th, 2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Today I shifted my 1000 3 times to get to 50

today i shifted 0 times to get to 70

Jiggles · July 27th, 2012, 03:04 PM

I can't even do that I think 1st redlines at 65mph

kingkang204 · July 27th, 2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I can't even do that I think 1st redlines at 65mph

The 06 R6 I rode indicated 86 mph in first gear.

Jiggles · July 27th, 2012, 03:16 PM

I was talking about my Ninja 1000

kingkang204 · July 27th, 2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I was talking about my Ninja 1000

I know, I was just saying. But as it's been said before, not only is it excessive & unnecessary, its just too dangerous for anyone.

Jiggles · July 27th, 2012, 03:20 PM

I really shoulda got the zx10 so I could do 110mph in 1st

kingkang204 · July 27th, 2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I really shoulda got the zx10 so I could do 110mph in 1st

Why so slow? Why not just get a Y2K or some Turbo Busa, because cornering is for squids.

Jiggles · July 27th, 2012, 03:24 PM

If I wanted to ride a fat pig I'd go find a $5 whore

toua70 · July 27th, 2012, 03:24 PM

thanks for the laughs guys lol... I don't think Robert is a irresponsible kid, he just made the decision that most of us would advise new riders to avoid. As long as you respect the bike's power, you will be fine. Since you're in los angeles robert, lets go riding some day and I'll show you how slow the 250 is

we can go to PV switchbacks since its close to home and you'll have fun there.. not too intimidating.

kingkang204 · July 27th, 2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by toua70

thanks for the laughs guys lol... I don't think Robert is a irresponsible kid, he just made the decision that most of us would advise new riders to avoid. As long as you respect the bike's power, you will be fine. Since you're in los angeles robert, lets go riding some day and I'll show you how slow the 250 is

we can go to PV switchbacks since its close to home and you'll have fun there.. not too intimidating.

To be honest I don't think Robert is irresponsible, I think his parents are. He made the choice that all kids want to make, hell I made that choice too. He parents could of told him no, but they agreed, which I am sure made him happy, but that choice probably wasn't in his best interests.

Compooky · July 27th, 2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kingkang204

To be honest I don't think Robert is irresponsible, I think his parents are. He made the choice that all kids want to make, hell I made that choice too. He parents could of told him no, but they agreed, which I am sure made him happy, but that choice probably wasn't in his best interests.

I thought most kids wanted a really nice car instead of a bike. That way they can actually take more than one person with them when going out.

Jiggles · July 27th, 2012, 04:10 PM

Also there isn't much room for back seat lovin'

kingkang204 · July 27th, 2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Compooky

I thought most kids wanted a really nice car instead of a bike. That way they can actually take more than one person with them when going out.

It was either a car or a bike for a graduation present, I chose a bike. Albiet Robert and I are only two cases, I am sure there are many more.

kingkang204 · July 27th, 2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Also there isn't much room for back seat lovin'

Challenge accepted, I will find proof that its possible. I am not sure if Alex will approve though.

July 27th, 2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I can't even do that I think 1st redlines at 65mph

I think my bike redlines somewhere in the 80's. Speaking of that, I need to get some more launch videos.

Ramen · July 27th, 2012, 06:59 PM

Cool story brohan.

Trailerboy531 · July 28th, 2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by toua70

thanks for the laughs guys lol... I don't think Robert is a irresponsible kid, he just made the decision that most of us would advise new riders to avoid. As long as you respect the bike's power, you will be fine. Since you're in los angeles robert, lets go riding some day and I'll show you how slow the 250 is

we can go to PV switchbacks since its close to home and you'll have fun there.. not too intimidating.

Hey hey!!!

No hitting the switch backs without me!

toua70 · July 28th, 2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

Hey hey!!!

No hitting the switch backs without me!

Haha lets do it! Planning to next Saturday with a couple riders on this forum.

ai4px · July 28th, 2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Earplugs are definitely a better solution than a new helmet. No matter how "good" of a helmet you have or how "quiet" it is, a loud helmet with earplugs will still be quieter than a quiet helmet with unprotected ears. Earplugs only cost $2.00 for a re-usable pair that will last you a while vs $300 for a quieter helmet and work better anyways. Earbuds are a bad idea; they just add more noise to cover up the noise that damages your hearing in the first place.
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You are soooo right! I have searched in vain for a quiet helmet, but my bike puts the wind boundary on my collarbone and so my head is in the turbulence and noise. I ride with silicone ear plugs in and my sena headset speakers are loud enough to get thru the plugs well.

When I took the MSF course, I ended up paired up with a guy from my town (class one hour away). He rode a vulcan 900 with V&H pipes and man, it sounded good. But he wore standard ear buds so he could hear his ipod. I tried explaining to him over breakfast that you needed to mute the noise not cover it up with more sound. I'm not sure he got it... he's a young 'un, so one day he will.

On the other hand, at stop lights, we could not talk... I was in a full helmet with earplugs.

BlackNinja8 · July 28th, 2012, 09:21 AM

Robert, kudos to you for having thick skin. Guys, you gotta remember this kid is 15! No offense intented Robert, but you couldn't possibly know how you come across to adults with worlds more experience. Imagine for a moment that you are a grown man in you 20s or 30s who has a 250 and has been riding the hell out of it. Then a 15 year old kid who has the bike for a month, has crashed it, has never gone over 70mph, doesn't drive more than 5mph over speed limit, is scared to go on the highway, etc. etc., posts a topic telling you that their bike - the same one that you have - is boring and slow.

That's the source of the hate you are getting and justifiably so IMO even though you didn't have any ill intentions when started that thread. But like I said, at 15 you don't know what you don't know. My wife who has never played baseball and is completely unathletic, told me the other day she is "good at baseball" because we were having a catch and she was able to actually catch a few. You have done the motorcycling equivalent unintentionally I believe.

Congrats on your R6 and take your time. Take the advice of people with experience it's free. You have gotten a lot of feedback to your threads and looking through the flame throwing, you should be able to see a common theme.

kingkang204 · July 28th, 2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackNinja8

Robert, kudos to you for having thick skin. Guys, you gotta remember this kid is 15! No offense intented Robert, but you couldn't possibly know how you come across to adults with worlds more experience. Imagine for a moment that you are a grown man in you 20s or 30s who has a 250 and has been riding the hell out of it. Then a 15 year old kid who has the bike for a month, has crashed it, has never gone over 70mph, doesn't drive more than 5mph over speed limit, is scared to go on the highway, etc. etc., posts a topic telling you that their bike - the same one that you have - is boring and slow.

That's the source of the hate you are getting and justifiably so IMO even though you didn't have any ill intentions when started that thread. But like I said, at 15 you don't know what you don't know. My wife who has never played baseball and is completely unathletic, told me the other day she is "good at baseball" because we were having a catch and she was able to actually catch a few. You have done the motorcycling equivalent unintentionally I believe.

Congrats on your R6 and take your time. Take the advice of people with experience it's free. You have gotten a lot of feedback to your threads and looking through the flame throwing, you should be able to see a common theme.

I was 17 when I got an R6, and now I'm 19. I realized, by the time I was 18, that it wasn't a good idea for any young person to have such a high powered bike. I couldn't even imagine what I would of done at 15. I mean even more than that, I had ridden my Ninja 250r for a year before I even touched a 600. And you're right, people here are harsh on him, but thats simply because it would be a shame to see someone so young lose their life to have a little fun early on.

akima · July 28th, 2012, 02:37 PM

Somehow I've not noticed you Robert. Apparently you're pretty famous around here!

As for comparing a Ninja 250 to an R6... I've never ridden anything much more powerful than my 2fiddy, but from what I know about the R6, it's a very powerful machine. I imagine riding a ninjette is kinda like riding a young, healthy horse whereas riding an R6 is like riding a T-Rex.

Careful on that Rex!

Jiggles · July 28th, 2012, 02:39 PM

Riding a 250 is more like riding a chihuahua

Compooky · July 28th, 2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by akima

Somehow I've not noticed you Robert. Apparently you're pretty famous around here!

As for comparing a Ninja 250 to an R6... I've never ridden anything much more powerful than my 2fiddy, but from what I know about the R6, it's a very powerful machine. I imagine riding a ninjette is kinda like riding a young, healthy horse whereas riding an R6 is like riding a T-Rex.

Careful on that Rex!

I really need to trade in the 250 in that case! Baby hands t-rex > horse

LoneRonin · July 29th, 2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by edxmon

reading this made me literally think: Yup, like they say "power is nothing without controll".

I'm sure if any one of us really got to a certain level of control and knowledge of our bike we'd all be surprised at what it CAN do.

not as surprised as the SS riders I school regularly in the twisties and on the track...

choneofakind · July 29th, 2012, 07:01 AM

Hell I'm just an average rider who's done one track day on a pregen, and I'm blown away by what my bike CAN do!

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EsrTek · July 29th, 2012, 07:10 AM

Does the same things really need to be repeated over and over???
Anyone saying the 250r, whether new-gen or pre-gen, is not capable or too slow of a bike, has no idea how to ride ANY bike!
They simply do not want to work for a living and have decided to get on disability ASAP!

akima · July 29th, 2012, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Hell I'm just an average rider who's done one track day on a pregen, and I'm blown away by what my bike CAN do!

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Me too.

Have you tried riding a bigger-engine/super-sport Chris? I really want to have a go on a GSXR 600. I don't want to own one for street riding though; I'm happy with my ninjette. They do look like fun!

JustRidin · July 29th, 2012, 09:27 AM

Back to why so many people "love" you Robert, it does come off as slightly hilarious and ludicrous that you would come on here talking about how the 250 is underpowered. This is especially poignant after you crashed said 250 and then went on to get a 600!

I'll have to second that your parents seem a tad bit crazy for letting you get a 600. Think of the 250 as the power YOU can USE, not the power that will USE YOU. Believe me the 600 can and will use you...all you are is an untrained hand waiting to twist that throttle a bit too much. The thing is though, when you mess up on that 600 you won't just total your bike like you did your 250, you'll seriously hurt yourself.

csmith12 · July 29th, 2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

Me too.

Have you tried riding a bigger-engine/super-sport Chris? I really want to have a go on a GSXR 600. I don't want to own one for street riding though; I'm happy with my ninjette. They do look like fun!

In hindsight, I should have let him take a spin on my R6 around the large parking lots at Mid-Ohio.

Carnage · July 29th, 2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by robertkh100

who said im not a dog, dog?

sounds more like a female dog in heat.

BlackNinja8 · July 29th, 2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRidin

when you mess up on that 600 you won't just total your bike like you did your 250, you'll seriously hurt yourself.

Ouch! Let's hope you're wrong. No one wants to see another rider go down let alone have him suffer injury. Robert wouldn't be the first to start on the 600cc class and do so without injury (too late for avoiding insult). Granted, learning the rules of the road while also learing to control a pure bred race bike is a risky proposition.

dirty nasty · July 29th, 2012, 06:38 PM

I suppose it can be done. When I was 13 years old I had 2 years of experiences on a XR100 when my mom's boyfriend put me on his YZ400F. I suppose that is the dirt bike equivalent of riding a super sport. At least at 13 years old that bike seemed like a rocket. Now that I've ridden rockets the 400 seems a lot more controlled.

choneofakind · July 30th, 2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

Me too.

Have you tried riding a bigger-engine/super-sport Chris? I really want to have a go on a GSXR 600. I don't want to own one for street riding though; I'm happy with my ninjette. They do look like fun!

heck yeah!!! I rode bright purple 1997 cbr600f3 all last summer when my buddy went to California and wanted me to keep his bike running for him. It was a hoot!!! I started out in his neighborhood rocking the power duck walk to find the friction zone, then I did a whole bunch of starts and stops, then I just start cruising and by the end of the first week, I was ripping (cautiously) through the valley on some twisty roads!! It was a total hoot!! That thing is jetted with a full exhaust and will lift the front in 1st and get really light in 2nd

.

I also went to the Kawasaki demo day and test rode a 650, a ninja 1000, a zx14, a zx6r and a Vulcan 900. I've also ridden my buddy's 500r and a couple newgen 250's. Ohohhh a drz200 at my msg course and a random scooter that was also doing demo day the same day as the Kawasaki demo day also. That's all I've ridden so far.
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alex.s · July 30th, 2012, 11:35 AM

this thread is still active? wth

alex.s · July 30th, 2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

Me too.

Have you tried riding a bigger-engine/super-sport Chris? I really want to have a go on a GSXR 600. I don't want to own one for street riding though; I'm happy with my ninjette. They do look like fun!

it feels like you have cheater-mode enabled LOL

akima · July 30th, 2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

it feels like you have cheater-mode enabled LOL

Whut?

Jiggles · July 30th, 2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by akima

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Originally Posted by alex.s

it feels like you have cheater-mode enabled LOL

Whut?

Que?

July 27th, 2012, 11:59 AM	#41
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	cant find it right now. just search cvma 250 __________________________________________________

July 27th, 2012, 03:04 PM	#44
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I can't even do that I think 1st redlines at 65mph __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 27th, 2012, 03:16 PM	#46
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I was talking about my Ninja 1000 __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 27th, 2012, 03:20 PM	#48
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I really shoulda got the zx10 so I could do 110mph in 1st __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 27th, 2012, 03:24 PM	#50
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	If I wanted to ride a fat pig I'd go find a $5 whore __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 27th, 2012, 03:24 PM	#51
toua70 ninjette.org guru Name: Toua Location: Long Beach Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 and Gsx-R 750 k8 (out of commission) Posts: 482	thanks for the laughs guys lol... I don't think Robert is a irresponsible kid, he just made the decision that most of us would advise new riders to avoid. As long as you respect the bike's power, you will be fine. Since you're in los angeles robert, lets go riding some day and I'll show you how slow the 250 is we can go to PV switchbacks since its close to home and you'll have fun there.. not too intimidating.

July 27th, 2012, 04:10 PM	#54
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Also there isn't much room for back seat lovin' __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 27th, 2012, 06:59 PM	#58
Ramen Frak It Name: Sean Location: SWFL Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 199	Cool story brohan.

July 28th, 2012, 09:21 AM	#62
BlackNinja8 ninjette.org guru Name: NJ Location: Westchester, NY Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R (Sold); 2012 Vulcan 900; 2009 Harley Iron 883; 2004 SV650s; and a bunch of others over the years... Posts: 470	Robert, kudos to you for having thick skin. Guys, you gotta remember this kid is 15! No offense intented Robert, but you couldn't possibly know how you come across to adults with worlds more experience. Imagine for a moment that you are a grown man in you 20s or 30s who has a 250 and has been riding the hell out of it. Then a 15 year old kid who has the bike for a month, has crashed it, has never gone over 70mph, doesn't drive more than 5mph over speed limit, is scared to go on the highway, etc. etc., posts a topic telling you that their bike - the same one that you have - is boring and slow. That's the source of the hate you are getting and justifiably so IMO even though you didn't have any ill intentions when started that thread. But like I said, at 15 you don't know what you don't know. My wife who has never played baseball and is completely unathletic, told me the other day she is "good at baseball" because we were having a catch and she was able to actually catch a few. You have done the motorcycling equivalent unintentionally I believe. Congrats on your R6 and take your time. Take the advice of people with experience it's free. You have gotten a lot of feedback to your threads and looking through the flame throwing, you should be able to see a common theme.

July 28th, 2012, 02:37 PM	#64
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	Somehow I've not noticed you Robert. Apparently you're pretty famous around here! As for comparing a Ninja 250 to an R6... I've never ridden anything much more powerful than my 2fiddy, but from what I know about the R6, it's a very powerful machine. I imagine riding a ninjette is kinda like riding a young, healthy horse whereas riding an R6 is like riding a T-Rex. Careful on that Rex!

July 28th, 2012, 02:39 PM	#65
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Riding a 250 is more like riding a chihuahua __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 29th, 2012, 07:01 AM	#68
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Hell I'm just an average rider who's done one track day on a pregen, and I'm blown away by what my bike CAN do! Posted via Mobile Device

July 29th, 2012, 07:10 AM	#69
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Does the same things really need to be repeated over and over??? Anyone saying the 250r, whether new-gen or pre-gen, is not capable or too slow of a bike, has no idea how to ride ANY bike! They simply do not want to work for a living and have decided to get on disability ASAP!

July 29th, 2012, 09:27 AM	#71
JustRidin ninjette.org member Name: Nick Location: Denver, CO Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 R6, 2015 KTM 250XC - Past: 2011 KTM 150XC, 2009 Ninja 250r, 2012 Ninja 650, 2007 CRF250R Posts: 194	Back to why so many people "love" you Robert, it does come off as slightly hilarious and ludicrous that you would come on here talking about how the 250 is underpowered. This is especially poignant after you crashed said 250 and then went on to get a 600! I'll have to second that your parents seem a tad bit crazy for letting you get a 600. Think of the 250 as the power YOU can USE, not the power that will USE YOU. Believe me the 600 can and will use you...all you are is an untrained hand waiting to twist that throttle a bit too much. The thing is though, when you mess up on that 600 you won't just total your bike like you did your 250, you'll seriously hurt yourself.

July 29th, 2012, 06:38 PM	#75
dirty nasty ninjette.org sage Name: Karl Location: MA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Kwak Ninja 250 and 1998 Yamaha YZ400F Posts: 534	I suppose it can be done. When I was 13 years old I had 2 years of experiences on a XR100 when my mom's boyfriend put me on his YZ400F. I suppose that is the dirt bike equivalent of riding a super sport. At least at 13 years old that bike seemed like a rocket. Now that I've ridden rockets the 400 seems a lot more controlled.

July 30th, 2012, 11:35 AM	#77
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	this thread is still active? wth __________________________________________________