Sprocket swap tweak needed ?

eddiekay · February 15th, 2011, 09:35 AM

Went from stock to 15/41.
Noticed that brake line guide hex screw on swingarm is now very difficult to reach as it's partially under a protrusion on the...caliper? (that cast aluminum thing that closes the brake pads). SEE YELLOW ARROW
Also noticed that the nice gentle loop of the brake line ( as it came from factory before the sprocket swap)...where it attaches to caliper...is now a very tight loop...
What do you think ?
Might I remove guide, skip the second loop on the guide. install longer brake line...note chrome hex screw head just behind first loop on guide and the fact that the guide is not sitting tight on swingarm SEE YELLOW ARROW...a longer allen key could fix that but the guide as well as the line appear to be ...it just doesn't look right...or am I concerned about nothing ?
Brakes work fine but like i said...it just looks like it's about to explode

dubojr1 · February 15th, 2011, 11:58 AM

I think your caliper and mount were twisted before putting them back in place. You'll have to take the rear axle back off (or at least out a little) and rotate the caliper and mount till the hose makes the original smooth loop. Then re-install making sure the hose stays it the right spot. GL!

eddiekay · February 15th, 2011, 12:22 PM

Hmmmmm....gotta go look at it. I see what you mean but...as i recall...the hose is attached to the caliper ( that's what the aluminum thing is called...right?) too tight to rotate it. But...I could be wrong on that.
I'm figuring that because i have fewer teeth and the chain is the same length the rear axle moved back a bit...whic would explain the loop getting tighter. Does that make sense?

dubojr1 · February 15th, 2011, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddiekay

Hmmmmm....gotta go look at it. I see what you mean but...as i recall...the hose is attached to the caliper ( that's what the aluminum thing is called...right?) too tight to rotate it. But...I could be wrong on that.
I'm figuring that because i have fewer teeth and the chain is the same length the rear axle moved back a bit...whic would explain the loop getting tighter. Does that make sense?

The caliper is the silver part. The caliper mount is the flat black part attached to it.

Was the caliper and mount removed during the sprocket swap?

eddiekay · February 15th, 2011, 12:42 PM

The caliper and the mount were not attached to each other. What I think you're calling the mount appaears to be just a hose guide.,,,stamped steel, 2 wire loops
The caliper hung loose when i pulled the wheel off. When I put the wheel back on had difficulty getting rotor back into caliper so I loosned the hose guides so I could move the caliper around freely.

dubojr1 · February 15th, 2011, 12:49 PM

Ok so the caliper was hanging free. I'm pretty sure the caliper was spun prior to installing it. Take it back apart and spin it in the direction that straightens the hose back up.

Btw... here's a picture of a caliper mount for future use.

randomwalk101 · February 15th, 2011, 12:51 PM

should not be like that. You didn't mount the caliber back into it's groove correctly.

dubojr1 · February 15th, 2011, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

should not be like that. You didn't mount the caliber back into it's groove correctly.

I don't think it's that but here's a pic of how it should look...

bdavison · February 15th, 2011, 01:40 PM

You for sure twisted the caliper when it was off the bike.

You will need to remove the caliper again,just rotate it so that the line makes a loop instead of that sharp angled s curve.

You dont have to undo the brake lines or anything.
Just rotate the caliper.

eddiekay · February 15th, 2011, 02:28 PM

OK crew...thANKS for taking the time here...will turn the caliper. As a totally noob mechanic, hesitate to turn or twist anything that doesnt easily move but...yeah...that caliper had to be turned.
Will advise and thanks again

eddiekay · February 15th, 2011, 06:34 PM

Maybe the best thing here is that I'm learning to work on machinery.
Literally rotated my wrist...caliper in hand...as directed (thank y'all) and it practically fell into place.
What took me hours yesterday, took me 15 minutes today...thanks to you all.
eddie

slolane · February 15th, 2011, 06:58 PM

Glad you got it worked out, great forum! Same for me a lot of times, first time to do something takes hours, the next time 1/4 of the time but at least we are learning.

eddiekay · February 15th, 2011, 07:31 PM

Yeah,,,this forum is most unusual.
Not only are members polite and helpful but a lot of them really know their stuff. The DIY's go beyond the FSM and someone is always willing to be helpful. Motorcycling didn't used to be like this...it's like having a mechanic in the family.

dubojr1 · February 16th, 2011, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddiekay

Maybe the best thing here is that I'm learning to work on machinery.
Literally rotated my wrist...caliper in hand...as directed (thank y'all) and it practically fell into place.
What took me hours yesterday, took me 15 minutes today...thanks to you all.
eddie

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddiekay

Yeah,,,this forum is most unusual.
Not only are members polite and helpful but a lot of them really know their stuff. The DIY's go beyond the FSM and someone is always willing to be helpful. Motorcycling didn't used to be like this...it's like having a mechanic in the family.

May I suggest a future investment.... a repair manual. You will not regret it!

I'm happy to hear everything came back together for you.

February 15th, 2011, 11:58 AM	#2
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I think your caliper and mount were twisted before putting them back in place. You'll have to take the rear axle back off (or at least out a little) and rotate the caliper and mount till the hose makes the original smooth loop. Then re-install making sure the hose stays it the right spot. GL! __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

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February 15th, 2011, 12:22 PM	#3
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	Hmmmmm....gotta go look at it. I see what you mean but...as i recall...the hose is attached to the caliper ( that's what the aluminum thing is called...right?) too tight to rotate it. But...I could be wrong on that. I'm figuring that because i have fewer teeth and the chain is the same length the rear axle moved back a bit...whic would explain the loop getting tighter. Does that make sense?

February 15th, 2011, 12:42 PM	#5
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	The caliper and the mount were not attached to each other. What I think you're calling the mount appaears to be just a hose guide.,,,stamped steel, 2 wire loops The caliper hung loose when i pulled the wheel off. When I put the wheel back on had difficulty getting rotor back into caliper so I loosned the hose guides so I could move the caliper around freely.

February 15th, 2011, 12:51 PM	#7
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	should not be like that. You didn't mount the caliber back into it's groove correctly.

February 15th, 2011, 01:40 PM	#9
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	You for sure twisted the caliper when it was off the bike. You will need to remove the caliper again,just rotate it so that the line makes a loop instead of that sharp angled s curve. You dont have to undo the brake lines or anything. Just rotate the caliper.

February 15th, 2011, 02:28 PM	#10
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	OK crew...thANKS for taking the time here...will turn the caliper. As a totally noob mechanic, hesitate to turn or twist anything that doesnt easily move but...yeah...that caliper had to be turned. Will advise and thanks again

February 15th, 2011, 06:58 PM	#12
slolane Motorcyclist Name: James Location: Maryland Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: A lot.	Glad you got it worked out, great forum! Same for me a lot of times, first time to do something takes hours, the next time 1/4 of the time but at least we are learning.

February 15th, 2011, 07:31 PM	#13
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	Yeah,,,this forum is most unusual. Not only are members polite and helpful but a lot of them really know their stuff. The DIY's go beyond the FSM and someone is always willing to be helpful. Motorcycling didn't used to be like this...it's like having a mechanic in the family.