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Old June 24th, 2018, 11:28 AM   #1
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Hello i have a problem with my bike.

Hello iam new here i just signed up, and i have a problem with my bike, kawasaki ninja 250. I dont know how to fix my bike and i cant afford taking it to the garage to fix it. And i really missed up lots of stuff when working on it. But the bike is still running.
I dont know why this happens to my bike if you could please tell me any ideas what i may chek.
When i ride my bike the head light blinks it keeps blinking and the rpm gauge and speed gauge and the fuel gauge keeps going up down, then she's like has no power its very weak when i give throttle, so i stop the bike and then start it up agian it starts strong then weak and the same problem occurs do you have any idea what that might?
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Old June 24th, 2018, 11:34 AM   #2
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I would start by verifying that the battery voltage is above 13 with the engine running and revved a little.

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As TJ noted - a dead or dying battery can do what you described.

You will need a volt meter to check it.
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As TJ noted - a dead or dying battery can do what you described.

You will need a volt meter to check it.
Auto stores provide free battery checks, incase you dont want to spend money on a HF cheapo meter.
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They can also load-test battery.

Although having free HF multimeter really comes in handy for troubleshooting any other electronic issues later.
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Auto stores provide free battery checks, incase you dont want to spend money on a HF cheapo meter.
True, but I have heard of numerous instances where they (auto parts stores) called the battery "good" when it clearly wasn't.

A volt meter is worth having in your tool box. I probably have 3 or 4, with at least one being high quality. Most were inexpensive or free.
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An old style analog meter is really the best kind to have if you have only one, because they don't go nuts around ignition systems and outer sources of RF interference.
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Old June 24th, 2018, 03:14 PM   #9
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While it could be a battery with poor internal connection it sounds more likely that it is a bad electrical connection that may be agrivated by movement. Take covers off and idle the bike while pulling around on electcal harnesses and see if engine and lights act up. You may be able to pinpoint the problem that way.
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I probably have 3 or 4, with at least one being high quality. Most were inexpensive or free.
Just giving affordable options. The stores usually let you borrow equipment as well if you dont trust them. I own one high quality Extech meter I earned(free) a long time ago that I use alot.
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Not sure what your auto or bike retail store options are there. You can get multimeter easily enough from China. This is same unit as Harbour Freight.

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my son had similar symptoms, a zip tie had sawn its way thru the wiring harness, took us forever to find the problem.
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That's an amazing price from AliExpress. I recently got an audio compressor for guitar through them for $18. They take most of the worry about ordering from China away, don't they?
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That's an amazing price from AliExpress. I recently got an audio compressor for guitar through them for $18. They take most of the worry about ordering from China away, don't they?
They really do! They're like Amazon of East; qualifying sellers, managing payments and disputes. Guaranteeing overall quality! Incredible! Unfortunately prices have gone up tremendously as more people have caught on to these deals. The $11 Akra clone muffer I bought last year is now $40+!!!

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Old June 25th, 2018, 05:58 AM   #16
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I would start by verifying that the battery voltage is above 13 with the engine running and revved a little.

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hello, thanks for replying and everyone else who did, okay i have borrowed a multi meter, its a digital multi meter, so i watched on you tube how to take the voltage and how they set up the device, so i took the reading like this, when the bike was off, and when the bike was on without the engine running, and when the engine is running, and when giving throttle to it.

so:
1-bike off it was 12.66v
2-bike on with engine not running it kept decreasing and the video said it was normal.
3-when i tuned the engine on it was 13.5v and ranging around it. and when i gave power in the throttle it was increasing to arund 14 v
4-he said about the engine drop and when i notice the multi meter it says 11.5v .

but i did notice something that the battery kepet making spark noises every time i tuned the engine on or turned it off. is this normal? can u advise me what to do next.
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hello, i have a model 2011 Kawasaki ninja.
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Old June 25th, 2018, 06:06 AM   #18
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my son had similar symptoms, a zip tie had sawn its way thru the wiring harness, took us forever to find the problem.
thanks for answering, whats a wiring harness? where is it on my bike? sorry i do not know much.
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but i did notice something that the battery kepet making spark noises every time i tuned the engine on or turned it off. is this normal? can u advise me what to do next.
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I don't know what you mean in #4, but it looks like your battery and charging system are OK. Spark noises are not OK. You need to find out what's causing that. Start by disconnecting the battery cables, ground first when disconnecting (last when connecting). Then inspect the cables and the cable terminals, clean them, clean the battery terminals, lightly grease them, and reinstall the cables. Then see if the spark noise is gone. Your problems may also be gone. If not, let us know.
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but i did notice something that the battery kept making spark noises every time i tuned the engine on or turned it off. is this normal? can u advise me what to do next.
and thanks you for answering and all who did.
As TJ noted - start checking connections. The terminals on the battery, but also where the black cable (neg) attaches to the frame of the cycle.

The noise may be coming from a poor connection that is arcing.
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I don't know what you mean in #4, but it looks like your battery and charging system are OK. Spark noises are not OK. You need to find out what's causing that. Start by disconnecting the battery cables, ground first when disconnecting (last when connecting). Then inspect the cables and the cable terminals, clean them, clean the battery terminals, lightly grease them, and reinstall the cables. Then see if the spark noise is gone. Your problems may also be gone. If not, let us know.
i dissconected them, and the the negative cable looked dirty like black rubber on it, so i used sand paper to remove it, it looks clean now. i started the bike and it fine, but when i turn it of i still hear a small spark noise, and when i start the bike it statrs from the first press, and the engine i hear runs okay, but in several secods i hear it goes weaker stronger wekaer like the burning of fuel isnt proper but it doesnt turn off it keeps running,

unless iam riding it then happens that light goes of and the gauges go up down.
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When you hit the starter button you will hear a clicking/arcing noise from the starter relay, which is normal, but you shouldn't hear any arcing sound when you turn it off.
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Not sure what your auto or bike retail store options are there. You can get multimeter easily enough from China. This is same unit as Harbour Freight.

http://s.aliexpress.com/Fnaq6vmQ
Guys, this fellow is in Bahrain in the Middle East. There ain't no Auto Zones, NAPAs or Harbor Freights. They might have a McDonalds though.

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When you hit the starter button you will hear a clicking/arcing noise from the starter relay, which is normal, but you shouldn't hear any arcing sound when you turn it off.
Hi, it was the spark plugs, i changed them and now its fine. And i noticed that the spark plugs i installed last was CR9E but i think the kawasaki 250 ninja spark plug is CR8E does it matter?
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Guys, this fellow is in Bahrain in the Middle East. There ain't no Auto Zones, NAPAs or Harbor Freights. They might have a McDonalds though.

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Hello, we do have lots auto shops and motorbike shops and yes we do have mcdonalds
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Yep, lots of auto-parts places. Toyota seems popular.



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Hi, it was the spark plugs, i changed them and now its fine. And i noticed that the spark plugs i installed last was CR9E but i think the kawasaki 250 ninja spark plug is CR8E does it matter?
It matters. The pregens use CR8HSA, but I don't know if newgens do too. You should read your owner's manual and use what it recommends.
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What, no KFC or Taco Bell - I'd starve to death. Danno, you've got way too many cool motorcycles.

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It matters. The pregens use CR8HSA, but I don't know if newgens do too. You should read your owner's manual and use what it recommends.
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Hi, it was the spark plugs, i changed them and now its fine. And i noticed that the spark plugs i installed last was CR9E but i think the kawasaki 250 ninja spark plug is CR8E does it matter?
As TJ noted above - that's not the correct heat range most likely. The older (PreGen) Ninjas used CR8s, but not sure about the newer ones. A CR9 is a colder plug, so it's not going to do any damage, but it's not optimum either (unless you are racing maybe).

I don't think that would cause the issue you described in your first post though. I still think you have a battery or connection issue based on the symptoms you described.

The battery readings aren't where they should be with the engine off and the arcing noises aren't normal. I'd plan on replacing the battery before doing anything else.
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Yeah, not sure how spark-plugs can cause arcing noises when key turned ON, they don't fire until you actually crank engine.. Especially strange when turning OFF the bike... very odd.

Check all cable-connections starting from battery (both ends of every cable). Here's related thread:

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I wonder if the "sparking" noise he's hearing is the battery off gassing after being charged while the bike is running.?
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