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Old May 3rd, 2019, 02:50 PM   #1
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Spirited riding 2 up

Has anyone seen any tips or videos anywhere?

I've been riding for a long time and racing for many years, but now I'm married. And that means much of the time when I'm out hitting twisties with my friends, I have a 115lb spoiler on the back of my bike.

She rides great in normal riding, and every time we go hit some corners (which she loves the most) she gets better and better. She's a quick learner and takes my advice on what to do very well, so now I can at least scoot my butt around the seat.

But has anyone seen any stuff out there for us both to learn from to get us from this



To this



Edit: Mind you this is on my Ducati, not her 250. I'm not looking for motorcycle set up as much as body positioning and weight transfer as a team
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Old May 7th, 2019, 10:43 AM   #2
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I wrote this a while back ('09) on another board. It's basic, but it's what I have. Definitely bump up the preload on the rear shock!

"Brief her on what you expect of her and what she should expect of you.

Make sure that you're ready for her to get on the bike. Have her wait for you to nod or tell her to mount up.

Have her get on with the kick-stand down and before you straighten up the bike. Have her get off in the same fashion. (This may not work well on lowered machines.)

You'll notice that it's easier to stall when starting off. Take longer to let out the clutch.

It will take much longer to stop. Plan ahead.

It will also be harder to balance when stopping. Again, plan ahead.

Tell her not to move around unless she absolutely has to and then only when on straight sections of the road.

Tell her to always keep her shoulders even with yours. Make sure she never straightens up when you're in a turn.

Have her put a hand on the tank and one on your stomach, (then pat with one hand while rubbing with the other) <- humor.

Make sure she sits up straight and doesn't put her weight on you. You won't ride very well with a 140-pound back-pack.

It's mandatory that she wave at all children.

How smooth you are will be important. It's much harder to be smooth with a passenger.

It's a good idea to add some pre-load to the rear shock in order to compensate for the passenger's additional weight. The bike will handle better that way as well.

Adding pre-load to the shock can save your chain as well. Hitting a pot-hole with a big-ole girl on back will stretch a section of your chain. (Don't ask...)

Low-speed riding can be your down-fall. It's smart to practice it with your passenger in a parking lot before riding on the street.

It's a good idea to give your passenger an idea of how much of an effect they can have on a moving bike. You can do this by riding in a parking lot and letting them steer by leaning off to each side. By letting the bike follow what they do, they'll understand that riding is more of a cooperative effort than they think.

All that said... I've had passengers that I could practically drag knee with. That came from a lot of miles of actively practicing together. It's very rewarding to smoothly flow through a canyon with someone on back, but it takes a lot of work from both riders. I'd do track-days with a passenger if they'd let me."

No one else has touched this yet, so I wonder what they'll have to offer.

The kickstand mounting technique is for the shorter riders.

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Old May 13th, 2019, 10:25 AM   #3
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Here is an article I wrote on the very subject

http://www.motomom.ca/hello-world/

On a sidenote, I was riding in Spain at Aragon with Troy Corser as my riding coach, he took me on the back of his bike as a passenger and rode pretty damn quickly with me on the back (wheelies, sliding the rear etc). At the end he laughed at my profanities that he could hear me shouting from the back but also said I was a good passenger, "like a little backpack"
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Old May 14th, 2019, 11:11 PM   #4
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Tip: tell her to get off and get on her own bike. You can now both get farther off the edge of your respective machines. None of my bikes have a rear seat immediately after purchase - my mistakes are going to punish me never a passenger. Just my personal preference.
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Tip: tell her to get off and get on her own bike. You can now both get farther off the edge of your respective machines. None of my bikes have a rear seat immediately after purchase - my mistakes are going to punish me never a passenger. Just my personal preference.
She has her own bike...
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Old May 15th, 2019, 04:55 AM   #6
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She has her own bike...
I saw that. So why isn’t she riding it? Get a Sena.
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Old May 17th, 2019, 12:06 AM   #7
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I saw that. So why isn’t she riding it? Get a Sena.
1) She doesn't have her permit/license yet

2)If she was on hers, how would we ride 2 up?
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Old May 17th, 2019, 02:43 PM   #8
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just because she has her own, doesn't mean she won't still enjoy a nice 2 up ride once in awhile. Riding your own and being a passenger are both awesome in their own ways.
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Can't for the life of me see why anyone would want anything other than the first photo
Hahaha right?!! I see you're from Pittsburgh, too! We're from Robinson
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