any one interested in a FAQ for HID install?

saber63 · December 24th, 2009, 12:47 PM

heyo everyone, im about to install some HID's into my pre-gen, and was wondering if a how to would be wanted by other board members, as it takes longer (stop and take pictures, write notes etc....) if people think it would be helpfull ill be more then happy to write one up in a few days, as im noticing it not a strait drop in kit(nothing to bad)

if no one cares, it will save me some time :P

-Levi

coffeecandy · December 24th, 2009, 12:53 PM

do it!

Snake · December 24th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Yes please do a DIY for a pre gen HID instal.

saber63 · December 24th, 2009, 01:25 PM

WILL DO!

im currently messing with the bulb trying to get the best low beam cutoff(dont want to blind people and make them want you dead) while not comprmising the highbeems distance any.

so far its being abit hard... it doesnt help that im using 55Watt balasts that are bright as hell

so all the scatter is VERY bright lol.

but so far ive had two improvements, one is having the light sit a little bit further back in the housing(a few mm), and the other is to slightly modfiy the scatter shield on the bulb, once i get it perfect ill post a how to with pictures and all that good stuff!

kkim · December 24th, 2009, 01:47 PM

why not post the info in our ninjette Wiki, for all to see?

http://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Index

saber63 · December 24th, 2009, 01:53 PM

oh anyone can post in there? awsome!!! ill most likely post in here first, as i have sub par grammer and spelling, so having some people look it over will be a good idea

im starting to think the low beam cut off problem might be a headlight issue, but one that should be easy to fix with some vynal...

Verus Cidere · January 4th, 2010, 10:47 PM

I would love to see this written up. I've been wanting to do this for quite a while but was very cautious about blinding people. Just because I'm curious, is the kit you're using a bi-Xenon kit or an HID low-beam with a halogen hi-beam?

saber63 · January 5th, 2010, 08:09 AM

heyo to awnser your question im using a single HID bulb that uses a solinode to move the whole light. i onlt went this route because the kit also includes a lifetimewarranty, and ive bought other kits from them before... (ill post a link ounce i know theyll work :P.

ive gotten all the pictures taken on how to install the kit, run wires etc etc... where to put the ballast and what not.

however im not %100 on the scatter. ive found the main source of the scatter i think. and im currently blocking it out using black etrical tape on the headlight housing, i still need to take the bike out a day time ride(and park it next to oncoming traffic) to get an idea for the scatter as compared to other cars.

but the E-tape cut most of it out! im %90 i know how todo the same thing to the bulb kit(so it doesnt look like ****) however it might reguire abit more effort, depending on how easy it is to get the material todo so...

school started back up, and UGH, cant wait for some more free time

-Levi

DaveinOH · January 5th, 2010, 08:26 AM

Ok, newbie question, what are HID's?

saber63 · January 5th, 2010, 08:36 AM

High Intensty Discharge. instead of using a heated wire element that is in a non reactive gas(or a halgoen bulb) HID's pass an eltrical arc through a mix of gasses that "glow" (like xeon, hence some calling them Xeon bulbs) to produce light. however the HID's need a ballast, which takes the 12V of your car, and steps it up as to allow it to arc through the bulb.

the short... HID's produce more light that is also more like day time light( IE not yellow) using less elctricty then a halgoen bulb

of course they are so much brighter they can blind people REALLY baddly at night if aimed wrong.

a rough mesure. a 55W halogen bulb produes ~1000 lumens of light, and a 35W HID kit produces ~3000 lumens of light mmmmmm tasty

a few cars that run these lights OEM, are escaldes, lexuses, and prysus (that i know of, there are more though)

im sure theres better info on wiki, but that should give you enough to know why they are good

-Levi

DaveinOH · January 5th, 2010, 08:58 AM

Wow, that is a huge increase. I can definitely see the advantage. Thanks for the reply.

saber63 · March 9th, 2010, 05:11 PM

Alrighty! soooo i got the kit installed awhile back, and ive gone on a few rides with it, so far no one has flashed there lights at me etc.... so YEAH!

the down side is that you need to mask the headlight housing to reduce some VERY blinding scatter, i used eltrical tape, you can also use car/sign vynal taht matchs your bike etc....

you will also need to be able to use wire stripers and a soildering iron, and have some spare wire on hand,

also suggested is a way to drill a hole for a screw or screw in a self tapping screw.

i will hopefully have a full write up with pictures and all that good stuff in the next 2-3 weeks! once finals are over

-Levi

Verus Cidere · March 9th, 2010, 10:53 PM

Nice! I'm very excited to see your pics. If you can, write up the process after you get done with finals. I'm sure plenty of folks will be doing this!

saber63 · March 13th, 2010, 09:39 PM

so i started the write up here

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39467

its still pretty rough, but for those who just need some rough guidance iti should get you going!

i plan on having it more detailed and the like for those he need a more step by step write up,

but that should give you guys time for your HID's to show up

December 24th, 2009, 12:47 PM	#1
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	any one interested in a FAQ for HID install? heyo everyone, im about to install some HID's into my pre-gen, and was wondering if a how to would be wanted by other board members, as it takes longer (stop and take pictures, write notes etc....) if people think it would be helpfull ill be more then happy to write one up in a few days, as im noticing it not a strait drop in kit(nothing to bad) if no one cares, it will save me some time :P -Levi

December 24th, 2009, 12:53 PM	#2
coffeecandy ninjette.org member Name: Eli Location: San Jose, CA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Ninja 250 Posts: 159	do it! __________________________________________________ Bay Area Event Coming Up: June 2, 2012 Mike's Newb Group Ride

January 4th, 2010, 10:47 PM	#7
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	I would love to see this written up. I've been wanting to do this for quite a while but was very cautious about blinding people. Just because I'm curious, is the kit you're using a bi-Xenon kit or an HID low-beam with a halogen hi-beam? __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

March 9th, 2010, 10:53 PM	#13
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	Nice! I'm very excited to see your pics. If you can, write up the process after you get done with finals. I'm sure plenty of folks will be doing this! __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

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saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	WILL DO! im currently messing with the bulb trying to get the best low beam cutoff(dont want to blind people and make them want you dead) while not comprmising the highbeems distance any. so far its being abit hard... it doesnt help that im using 55Watt balasts that are bright as hell so all the scatter is VERY bright lol. but so far ive had two improvements, one is having the light sit a little bit further back in the housing(a few mm), and the other is to slightly modfiy the scatter shield on the bulb, once i get it perfect ill post a how to with pictures and all that good stuff!

December 24th, 2009, 01:47 PM	#5
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	why not post the info in our ninjette Wiki, for all to see? http://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Index

December 24th, 2009, 01:53 PM	#6
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	oh anyone can post in there? awsome!!! ill most likely post in here first, as i have sub par grammer and spelling, so having some people look it over will be a good idea im starting to think the low beam cut off problem might be a headlight issue, but one that should be easy to fix with some vynal...

January 5th, 2010, 08:09 AM	#8
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	heyo to awnser your question im using a single HID bulb that uses a solinode to move the whole light. i onlt went this route because the kit also includes a lifetimewarranty, and ive bought other kits from them before... (ill post a link ounce i know theyll work :P. ive gotten all the pictures taken on how to install the kit, run wires etc etc... where to put the ballast and what not. however im not %100 on the scatter. ive found the main source of the scatter i think. and im currently blocking it out using black etrical tape on the headlight housing, i still need to take the bike out a day time ride(and park it next to oncoming traffic) to get an idea for the scatter as compared to other cars. but the E-tape cut most of it out! im %90 i know how todo the same thing to the bulb kit(so it doesnt look like ****) however it might reguire abit more effort, depending on how easy it is to get the material todo so... school started back up, and UGH, cant wait for some more free time -Levi

January 5th, 2010, 08:26 AM	#9
DaveinOH ninjette.org newbie Name: Dave Location: Cincinnati, OH Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 9	Ok, newbie question, what are HID's?

January 5th, 2010, 08:36 AM	#10
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	High Intensty Discharge. instead of using a heated wire element that is in a non reactive gas(or a halgoen bulb) HID's pass an eltrical arc through a mix of gasses that "glow" (like xeon, hence some calling them Xeon bulbs) to produce light. however the HID's need a ballast, which takes the 12V of your car, and steps it up as to allow it to arc through the bulb. the short... HID's produce more light that is also more like day time light( IE not yellow) using less elctricty then a halgoen bulb of course they are so much brighter they can blind people REALLY baddly at night if aimed wrong. a rough mesure. a 55W halogen bulb produes ~1000 lumens of light, and a 35W HID kit produces ~3000 lumens of light mmmmmm tasty a few cars that run these lights OEM, are escaldes, lexuses, and prysus (that i know of, there are more though) im sure theres better info on wiki, but that should give you enough to know why they are good -Levi

January 5th, 2010, 08:58 AM	#11
DaveinOH ninjette.org newbie Name: Dave Location: Cincinnati, OH Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 9	Wow, that is a huge increase. I can definitely see the advantage. Thanks for the reply.

March 9th, 2010, 05:11 PM	#12
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	Alrighty! soooo i got the kit installed awhile back, and ive gone on a few rides with it, so far no one has flashed there lights at me etc.... so YEAH! the down side is that you need to mask the headlight housing to reduce some VERY blinding scatter, i used eltrical tape, you can also use car/sign vynal taht matchs your bike etc.... you will also need to be able to use wire stripers and a soildering iron, and have some spare wire on hand, also suggested is a way to drill a hole for a screw or screw in a self tapping screw. i will hopefully have a full write up with pictures and all that good stuff in the next 2-3 weeks! once finals are over -Levi

March 13th, 2010, 09:39 PM	#14
saber63 ninjette.org member Name: F Location: seattle Wa Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): '90 250 project, '03 250r, '14 STR,12 STR, '01 R6 Posts: 84	so i started the write up here http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39467 its still pretty rough, but for those who just need some rough guidance iti should get you going! i plan on having it more detailed and the like for those he need a more step by step write up, but that should give you guys time for your HID's to show up