magnetic tank bag and electronic devices

rabies · September 22nd, 2012, 03:25 PM

im about to make a small magnetic tank bag from a camera case and hardrive magnets.
but..if i put my droid or iphone or gps near it will it get wiped out?
id rather not "try" it to see what would happen..
anyone?

Whiskey · September 22nd, 2012, 03:27 PM

It shouldn't do anything to them, but don't put your wallet with ATM card in it, anything with a magnetic strip could be affected.

xSean13 · September 22nd, 2012, 03:29 PM

I've never had stuff right up next to the magnets, but I keep my wallet (with cards in it), cell phone, and ipod in the side pouches, never have any issues.

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 03:31 PM

Try not to put any CRT monitors in your bag. Also keep HDD's away

ninjamunky85 · September 22nd, 2012, 03:43 PM

+1 Shouldn't be a problem.

rabies · September 22nd, 2012, 03:49 PM

werd. thanx fellas

broilmebk · September 24th, 2012, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

It shouldn't do anything to them, but don't put your wallet with ATM card in it, anything with a magnetic strip could be affected.

They did this on mythbusters. IIRC you have to have one strong a$$ magnet to wipe it.

rabies · September 24th, 2012, 08:52 AM

i had one of those small card holders that ladies get in purses. i keep my liscense/debit card/insurance/and 2 biz cards.
it had a magnet it in it. when i put a hotel card in it, it would wipe out.
so i cut it and ripped the magnets out. makes a nice small wallet

bfpower · September 24th, 2012, 10:21 AM

When I used to work IT support, people would regularly put fridge magnets on their steel computer cases. In some cases it caused serious issues (random rebooting, system errors).

It's a basic fact of physics that magnets induce current in an electrical circuit when they are moved in its vicinity. In addition, current does not flow normally through a magnetic field. Therefore, although some people do not experience problems when putting a computer near a magnet, some devices absolutely will not work properly.

The myth is that your data will be wiped. This isn't the problem (it won't be wiped; that really is a myth, unless you're dealing with an MRI machine or other large electromagnet). The actual issue is that a magnet has the potential to seriously screw up a device, especially if it's moving near the circuit board. It can induce levels of current that could be damaging to the device.

Still, if it's a weak enough magnet, I wouldn't worry too much. The rare earth magnets from hard drives are fairly strong for their size, but I don't think they're be too big a problem. If you start having issues with electronic devices stored in the tank bag, you might want to try another solution.

Whiskey · September 24th, 2012, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broilmebk

They did this on mythbusters. IIRC you have to have one strong a$$ magnet to wipe it.

Didn't see that, but my mam had a bank card fail after she put it into a bag with a magnetic latch at the top.

If it's moved through the magnetic field it's likely to fail faster than if it's left in place afaik.

CZroe · September 29th, 2012, 09:27 AM

Some phones have magnetic relay switches to detect when they are in car docks versus home docks and other accessories or for telling when they are opened/closed without a mechanical switch. Magnets can cause havoc. If you find your battery half-dead because it kicked on in car nav mode where it was expected to be on charge, don't blame us.

September 22nd, 2012, 03:25 PM	#1
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September 22nd, 2012, 03:49 PM	#6
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	werd. thanx fellas __________________________________________________ The King

September 24th, 2012, 08:52 AM	#8
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	i had one of those small card holders that ladies get in purses. i keep my liscense/debit card/insurance/and 2 biz cards. it had a magnet it in it. when i put a hotel card in it, it would wipe out. so i cut it and ripped the magnets out. makes a nice small wallet __________________________________________________ The King

September 22nd, 2012, 03:27 PM	#2
Whiskey ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Morgan Location: A city twinned with Kawasaki Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, 2010 STR 675 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	It shouldn't do anything to them, but don't put your wallet with ATM card in it, anything with a magnetic strip could be affected.

September 22nd, 2012, 03:29 PM	#3
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	I've never had stuff right up next to the magnets, but I keep my wallet (with cards in it), cell phone, and ipod in the side pouches, never have any issues.

September 24th, 2012, 10:21 AM	#9
bfpower ninjette.org mafioso Name: Ben Location: Dillon, MT Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 337	When I used to work IT support, people would regularly put fridge magnets on their steel computer cases. In some cases it caused serious issues (random rebooting, system errors). It's a basic fact of physics that magnets induce current in an electrical circuit when they are moved in its vicinity. In addition, current does not flow normally through a magnetic field. Therefore, although some people do not experience problems when putting a computer near a magnet, some devices absolutely will not work properly. The myth is that your data will be wiped. This isn't the problem (it won't be wiped; that really is a myth, unless you're dealing with an MRI machine or other large electromagnet). The actual issue is that a magnet has the potential to seriously screw up a device, especially if it's moving near the circuit board. It can induce levels of current that could be damaging to the device. Still, if it's a weak enough magnet, I wouldn't worry too much. The rare earth magnets from hard drives are fairly strong for their size, but I don't think they're be too big a problem. If you start having issues with electronic devices stored in the tank bag, you might want to try another solution.

September 29th, 2012, 09:27 AM	#11
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Some phones have magnetic relay switches to detect when they are in car docks versus home docks and other accessories or for telling when they are opened/closed without a mechanical switch. Magnets can cause havoc. If you find your battery half-dead because it kicked on in car nav mode where it was expected to be on charge, don't blame us.

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