Throttle Cable Zip Tie Mod - DIY - Page 7

bruce71198 · March 16th, 2013, 02:40 PM

1.5 inch I think, I'll check on Monday. I had to machine the ID in a lathe to get it to the rite size. Raced it last weekend, worked well.

bruce71198 · March 18th, 2013, 10:53 AM

1.25 inch PVC, actually measures 1.35" ID, turned the ID to 1.40" Trimmed it off to the propper width and shaped it's profile on a belt sander.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 06:44 PM

Just to update you guys on this.

I can confirm that the R6 throttle tube/sleeve (part # 2C0-26240-00-00) fits without any issues.

I did use some white lithium grease on a bit of the throttle cable and the inside of the throttle housing for lubrication.

Awesome improvement in throttle throw. I get much less wrist fatigue if any now.

I installed the R6 tube when I installed my Woodcraft clip-ons and with the SVRacing rearsets. Feels like an entirely different bike ready for the track. Love it.

Edit

Just to clarify, this is on my 2009 Ninja 250 (this thread is in the "pregen" section after-all

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motoduelist · April 6th, 2013, 02:47 AM

I also installed an 06-09 R6 throttle tube on my 2004 Ninja 250 without any issues. I was using it the replace the zip tie mod because I wanted something OEM and it has about the same throttle response as the zip tie mod. The throttle tube was $16 at my shop.
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psych0hans · April 6th, 2013, 03:35 AM

I actually have a complete throttle + housing + switch assembly off an 07' R6. Can't wait to do the mod. Tho I'm sure I'll be beefing that up too using PVC pipe. I'm done with zip ties... lol

bruce71198 · April 6th, 2013, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

I actually have a complete throttle + housing + switch assembly off an 07' R6. Can't wait to do the mod. Tho I'm sure I'll be beefing that up too using PVC pipe. I'm done with zip ties... lol

Your going to end up with an eighth turn throttle. Might as well just tape it wide open and use the on/off switch as a throttle !!!!

psych0hans · April 6th, 2013, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce71198

Your going to end up with an eighth turn throttle. Might as well just tape it wide open and use the on/off switch as a throttle !!!!

mgentz · April 6th, 2013, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce71198

Your going to end up with an eighth turn throttle. Might as well just tape it wide open and use the on/off switch as a throttle !!!!

It will still be less than the 50mm cam that rojoracing53 and I are using. He'll be fine.

psych0hans · April 6th, 2013, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgentz

It will still be less than the 50mm cam that rojoracing53 and I are using. He'll be fine.

And to think they sell a 53mm cam as well... I didn't want to spend 200$ + shipping for a Motion pro setup, so I figured this was the next best thing. Sort of mid ghetto, considering it's OE, just for another bike... lol Also, from what I hear, the R6 cam doesn't do TOO much for he throw, just 4mm or so... I wasn't satisfied with the ziptie mod the first time round and added a second zip tie. That was perfect for me, but I botched up my throttle + cables in the process. This time it'll be custom throttle cables with the R6 stuff, so I'm hoping it'll do much better.

choneofakind · April 9th, 2013, 07:37 AM

Nice. I see nothing wrong with using an OE part for another bike. Definitely not as ghetto as the zip-ties.

Personally, 1 zip-tie is that happy medium. If it was track only, I would definitely want a quicker turn throttle.

Solunatic · May 9th, 2013, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce71198

1.25 inch PVC, actually measures 1.35" ID, turned the ID to 1.40" Trimmed it off to the propper width and shaped it's profile on a belt sander.

What's the OD on yours? I turned mine out of a scrap piece of ABS and am planning to do the same to my new ninja but don't remember what my specs were.

Also, belt sander will be way easier for shaping, I don't have a clue why I used a dremel last time

bruce71198 · May 9th, 2013, 06:26 PM

I believe the OD was just the wall thickness of the PCV, I didn't measure it afterword. However any bigger and it wouldn't fit in the housing.

iplante · May 15th, 2013, 09:15 AM

I just want the tube, no grip (as the part number above comes with a grip).

Would this one work? I'm not familiar with R* bikes at all.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/en/landin...alID%3DEBAY-US

Thanks

Solunatic · May 15th, 2013, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce71198

I believe the OD was just the wall thickness of the PCV, I didn't measure it afterword. However any bigger and it wouldn't fit in the housing.

Off to the hardware store with some calipers I go...

Once I find someone with an impact wrench to get the stupid endbolt off I'll post my original specs. It was a noticeable increase but I'd like to step it up a notch. My next paycheck may also have to buy me an R6 throttle tube for comparison.

iplante · May 17th, 2013, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iplante

I just want the tube, no grip (as the part number above comes with a grip).

Would this one work? I'm not familiar with R* bikes at all.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/en/landin...alID%3DEBAY-US

Thanks

Anyone?

bruce71198 · May 17th, 2013, 09:20 AM

Can't help you, sorry. But I could send you a piece of PVC ! LOL

iplante · May 17th, 2013, 09:50 AM

Haha thanks, but since I'm changing my bars anyway (thanks to you), I'd rather get the tube

abhijitz · June 7th, 2013, 01:44 PM

Another happy camper with the 06+ R6 throttle tube. Rode Thunderhill yesterday, improved times and had less fatigue with wrist bend. No stiction experienced (but i would still apply some grease).

It was an open trackday and my hour meter showed +5.4 hours.

maxgohan · July 17th, 2013, 11:47 PM

when you guys say 1/5 throttle, I'm assuming that means that my throttle turn has been reduced by 20%?

what's the r6 throttle?

mgentz · July 18th, 2013, 05:12 AM

It takes 1/5 of a turn to full throttle from the closed position.

maxgohan · July 18th, 2013, 12:22 PM

do you mean 1/5 of a turn
or
1/5 off a turn??

the former would mean that the throttle will only take 20% effort to get to full throttle
the latter would mean that the throttle will take 80% effort to get to full throttle

mgentz · July 18th, 2013, 01:07 PM

1/5 of 360 degrees = 72 degrees

a 1/4 turn throttle would be 90 degrees

a 1/6 turn throttle is 60 degrees

maxgohan · July 18th, 2013, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgentz

1/5 of 360 degrees = 72 degrees

a 1/4 turn throttle would be 90 degrees

a 1/6 turn throttle is 60 degrees

ohhhhhhhh
thanks for clarifying that

anyone know what the r6 throttle tube is?

LNasty · July 18th, 2013, 04:04 PM

So does thus mode change your idle speed?

felo · July 18th, 2013, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

So does thus mode change your idle speed?

it shouldnt

LNasty · July 18th, 2013, 09:02 PM

So I tried the mod just now and everything was going great until it came time to put it all back. I guess I didn't let it dry long enough, 1 ****ing hour, because the tie peeled up as I WA putting the two halves together. Glue got on my cables and I had to abandon the whole project. Finally got it all back to normal, throttle seems to be ok, will see on ride tomorrow. So what throttle tube from another bike works with the 2012 250? I would like a better throttle response without this diy ****!

mgentz · July 18th, 2013, 09:09 PM

R6 or motion pro

felo · July 18th, 2013, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgentz

R6 or motion pro

yeah i have an r6 throttle tube in my 300 that i bought for like 5 bucks
couldnt be happy with the results

LNasty · July 18th, 2013, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgentz

R6 or motion pro

What is the motion pro one?

LNasty · July 18th, 2013, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felo

yeah i have an r6 throttle tube in my 300 that i bought for like 5 bucks
couldnt be happy with the results

What year of r6

felo · July 18th, 2013, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

What year of r6

05

LNasty · July 18th, 2013, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felo

05

Cool I will look for one. Why don't the ninja 6 and others work?

felo · July 18th, 2013, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNasty

Cool I will look for one. Why don't the ninja 6 and others work?

well i dont know if it works or no, i just saw one day looking thru the forums that an r6 would work and do the same as the zip tie mod, happend to found one for dirt cheap and bought it

LNasty · July 19th, 2013, 08:36 AM

well my **** is definitly ****ed up. throttle wont got all the way back to idle. it sticks and I have to manually roll it all the way off. **** me why did I try this ****. It looked pretty damn ghetto and that should have been my first warning not to try it. Boredom got the best of me. I should have to wear this all day today

choneofakind · July 19th, 2013, 11:05 AM

The zip tie sticks? Sand. Sand everything smooth.

LNasty · July 19th, 2013, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

The zip tie sticks? Sand. Sand everything smooth.

no, the zip tie has been thrown away (with spite) and now everything is oem, but now the throttle is sticking due to leftover glue i'm guessing. I don't even know if I got it back together correctly.

LNasty · July 19th, 2013, 11:55 AM

So I just took it apart at work and sanded of any remaining glue, it now snaps back like it should. Learned my lesson on this one

maxgohan · July 21st, 2013, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felo

05

I thought we needed a 06+ tube?
can someone confirm before I drop $30 on a tube?

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · July 21st, 2013, 03:17 PM

Just bought a R6 2003-2005 Throttle tube and am going to install it this week sometime. Mine cost $12 at Cycle Sports. Please tell me I bought the right one.... We'll find out soon enough.

2013-07-21 18.21.54.jpg

Jred · July 22nd, 2013, 05:30 AM

I just put an 07-08 R6 tube on works like a charm, not sure about other years.

March 27th, 2013, 06:44 PM	#243
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	Just to update you guys on this. I can confirm that the R6 throttle tube/sleeve (part # 2C0-26240-00-00) fits without any issues. I did use some white lithium grease on a bit of the throttle cable and the inside of the throttle housing for lubrication. Awesome improvement in throttle throw. I get much less wrist fatigue if any now. I installed the R6 tube when I installed my Woodcraft clip-ons and with the SVRacing rearsets. Feels like an entirely different bike ready for the track. Love it. Edit Just to clarify, this is on my 2009 Ninja 250 (this thread is in the "pregen" section after-all ) __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

April 6th, 2013, 03:35 AM	#245
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	I actually have a complete throttle + housing + switch assembly off an 07' R6. Can't wait to do the mod. Tho I'm sure I'll be beefing that up too using PVC pipe. I'm done with zip ties... lol __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

May 15th, 2013, 09:15 AM	#253
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	I just want the tube, no grip (as the part number above comes with a grip). Would this one work? I'm not familiar with R* bikes at all. http://pages.ebay.com/link/en/landin...alID%3DEBAY-US Thanks __________________________________________________ WANTED for 88-07 Ninja 250: Corbin Gunfighter & Lady seat

May 17th, 2013, 09:50 AM	#257
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	Haha thanks, but since I'm changing my bars anyway (thanks to you), I'd rather get the tube __________________________________________________ WANTED for 88-07 Ninja 250: Corbin Gunfighter & Lady seat

June 7th, 2013, 01:44 PM	#258
abhijitz ninjette.org sage Name: Abhijit Location: San Francisco Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): Many Two Wheels .. Posts: 611	Another happy camper with the 06+ R6 throttle tube. Rode Thunderhill yesterday, improved times and had less fatigue with wrist bend. No stiction experienced (but i would still apply some grease). It was an open trackday and my hour meter showed +5.4 hours. __________________________________________________ [ex-AFM #828 \| SMUSA #828 \| Sponsors : MotionPro \| LeoVince \| Insurrection Racing Gloves \| QstarZ Laptimers + OEM Parts @ 30-40% OFF : Harry @ 1-877-437-1631,17 harry@hondaeasttoledo.com

March 16th, 2013, 02:40 PM	#241
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	1.5 inch I think, I'll check on Monday. I had to machine the ID in a lathe to get it to the rite size. Raced it last weekend, worked well.

March 18th, 2013, 10:53 AM	#242
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	1.25 inch PVC, actually measures 1.35" ID, turned the ID to 1.40" Trimmed it off to the propper width and shaped it's profile on a belt sander.

April 6th, 2013, 02:47 AM	#244
motoduelist ninjette.org member Name: motoduelist Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX-10R Posts: 34	I also installed an 06-09 R6 throttle tube on my 2004 Ninja 250 without any issues. I was using it the replace the zip tie mod because I wanted something OEM and it has about the same throttle response as the zip tie mod. The throttle tube was $16 at my shop. Posted via Mobile Device

April 9th, 2013, 07:37 AM	#250
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Nice. I see nothing wrong with using an OE part for another bike. Definitely not as ghetto as the zip-ties. Personally, 1 zip-tie is that happy medium. If it was track only, I would definitely want a quicker turn throttle.

May 9th, 2013, 06:26 PM	#252
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	I believe the OD was just the wall thickness of the PCV, I didn't measure it afterword. However any bigger and it wouldn't fit in the housing.

May 17th, 2013, 09:20 AM	#256
bruce71198 ninjette.org sage Name: bruce Location: northern illinois Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Race bikes:08 Ninja 250,11 R6,16 ZX6,SV650.3 HD-1947,2-2003,2010. 1946 Indian and a lot of dirt bikes.2 Posts: 999	Can't help you, sorry. But I could send you a piece of PVC ! LOL

July 17th, 2013, 11:47 PM	#259
maxgohan ninjette.org member Name: max Location: GTA, ontario Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r Posts: 29	when you guys say 1/5 throttle, I'm assuming that means that my throttle turn has been reduced by 20%? what's the r6 throttle?

July 18th, 2013, 05:12 AM	#260
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	It takes 1/5 of a turn to full throttle from the closed position.

July 18th, 2013, 12:22 PM	#261
maxgohan ninjette.org member Name: max Location: GTA, ontario Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r Posts: 29	do you mean 1/5 of a turn or 1/5 off a turn?? the former would mean that the throttle will only take 20% effort to get to full throttle the latter would mean that the throttle will take 80% effort to get to full throttle

July 18th, 2013, 01:07 PM	#262
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	1/5 of 360 degrees = 72 degrees a 1/4 turn throttle would be 90 degrees a 1/6 turn throttle is 60 degrees

July 18th, 2013, 04:04 PM	#264
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	So does thus mode change your idle speed?

July 18th, 2013, 09:02 PM	#266
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	so pissed right now I could punch a baby So I tried the mod just now and everything was going great until it came time to put it all back. I guess I didn't let it dry long enough, 1 **ing hour, because the tie peeled up as I WA putting the two halves together. Glue got on my cables and I had to abandon the whole project. Finally got it all back to normal, throttle seems to be ok, will see on ride tomorrow. So what throttle tube from another bike works with the 2012 250? I would like a better throttle response without this diy **!

July 18th, 2013, 09:09 PM	#267
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	R6 or motion pro

July 19th, 2013, 08:36 AM	#274
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	well my ** is definitly ed up. throttle wont got all the way back to idle. it sticks and I have to manually roll it all the way off. me why did I try this **. It looked pretty damn ghetto and that should have been my first warning not to try it. Boredom got the best of me. I should have to wear this all day today

July 19th, 2013, 11:05 AM	#275
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	The zip tie sticks? Sand. Sand everything smooth.

July 19th, 2013, 11:55 AM	#277
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	So I just took it apart at work and sanded of any remaining glue, it now snaps back like it should. Learned my lesson on this one

July 21st, 2013, 03:17 PM	#279
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Just bought a R6 2003-2005 Throttle tube and am going to install it this week sometime. Mine cost $12 at Cycle Sports. Please tell me I bought the right one.... We'll find out soon enough. 2013-07-21 18.21.54.jpg

July 22nd, 2013, 05:30 AM	#280
Jred ninjette.org member Name: john Location: Houston Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: 61	I just put an 07-08 R6 tube on works like a charm, not sure about other years.

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