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Old June 4th, 2014, 09:10 PM   #41
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Went to the gym this morning, lifted until I got light-headed due to forgetting to eat breakfast, rode the Ninja for an hour, and reffed flag football. Not a very intense day haha
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Excellent work dude! Feels so good being healthy!

(at some point this thread is going to dead end in a hurry.)
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I did a 30 minute run, 20 on the stationary cycle with decent resistance, easily >100 kata reps with the training blade on each arm, some light free weights, and then showered.
Then I went to the beach, jogged a mile on the sand, and did some casual slacklining. On the plus, I went from the 2-inch to the 1-inch line. Whoo!
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Nice! I'm just about to sign off, ride home, lift my weights for an hour and have a steak or a chicken breast. Haven't decided yet.

I've realized that people who make a point of staying fit just do it without thinking about it.

It's the woman who never works out who posts a bunch of pics of her at the gym on her social media. The ppl who are in the gym every day don't even think anything of it.

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It's the woman who never works out who posts a bunch of pics of her at the gym on her social media. The ppl who are in the gym every day don't even think anything of it.
Hit those weights.

I know lots of guys and girls like the former. I can't stand the gym. I work out at home, or at the park when there aren't a lot of other people around. If I'm outdoors, I prefer to be biking/running, unless I'm hiking or slacklining. The last time I was slacklining, people were like "You want a picture of yourself doing that?" And I just kept walking the line and asked "Why?"

Even though some people who make a habit and priority of fitness may not think about it so much, it's still a cool idea to have a thread dedicated to tracking it. It's kind of like having a virtual fitness partner--there's some of that accountability.

Working out is about capability and actual function for me, not the stupid image. I don't care about having a bubble butt, big biceps, or being under a certain weight. If anything, I'm trying to put on some, as I've fallen under 120 lbs. again. At 5'2"-5'3", I generally don't feel as strong as I like when when I'm sub 120, and forget it if I fall sub 110.

Aaaand so I go on to read more about bulking & cutting cycles, along with various nutrition articles.
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Calories in, calories out. It's that simple. Thermodynamics.

Something about your posts told me you were female.. I was right again!

And it is nice to have a thread like this for accountability. Bottom line is, when you develop a routine and don't break it for so long... months, years even... the thought of NOT doing it is worse than the thought of doing it.

It's like hey, I've done this every other day for 5 years now, who cares if I'm sick, hungover, sleep-deprived etc... wouldn't be the first time.
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Yeah. I just don't know how much more I can realistically eat on my budget, lol. 12 bowls of ramen in one sitting, and I'm still like, "Lets get ice cream, guys!" Until one of my 6'11" buddies picks me up, turns me around and tells me to calm the **** down.

Haha, did the weight and height give it away? :P I had been flying pretty incognito up until a month or so ago when another member (unintentionally) outed my gender in a post or two, then one other confirmed it. It's funny how many people will presume a given gender when none is stated.
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No, women communicate differently. It's the energy.. It's just different. Women are more caring, they can't hide that. They tend to be less crass, less inclined to talk about their dicks, and less muck-raker-because-muck-raking-is-gleefully-enjoyable.

Women are more likely to be on the exercise bikes, eliptical, ass-toning exercises than men who typically are more inclined to powerlift and grunt and breath heavy and stomp around pumping out testosterone and staring down any other males in the vicinity. You said 'light' free weights.

Yeh that was uh... hard to describe. When you're used to lifting heavy, it's not exactly enjoyable, or unenjoyable, it's just something that you do. Hard to explain but the endorphin high afterward is certainly nice. As is the pump. Feel so warm and fuzzy in my super-suit of cartoon muscles and video-game armor. (Muscles being like armor..)

Ramen is not food, it's filler. It will fill your stomach and take away hunger but there are no usable calories behind it. Better off with some carbs or starches to keep you feeling 'full,' fruits for energy (albeit, wearing off quickly).

If you're trying to gain mass, chicken breast and brown rice, or beans. All day erry day. I'm not a fanatic, and I don't even watch what I eat -- generally don't even do protein shakes -- just drink a lot of water during the exercise.

There are plenty or articles on 'bulking on a budget' -- obviously stay away from fatty foods.

And I'm gonna say this because even if it was our country's national anthem, it still wouldn't be said enough.

YOU CANNOT SPOT REDUCE FAT. People ask things like "I just want to remove a bit from my waist, thighs, butt... it doesn't work like that. Bodyfat is bodyfat. It accumulates in certain areas, around the waist primarily. If you want to tone X or Y or Z, you just work your whole body (cardio, burn it off) and you'll lower your bodyfat percentage therefore sliming everything at once. There's no magic workout that targets just X or Y...

Fitness community is full of hype and bs, just like advertising on television... hell, just like this entire company. MIRACLE CURE! There's no shortcut. MAGIC PILL! There's no magic. JUST FOLLOW THESE THREE RULES! Nope, bs.

Work = results.

Many people seem to forget that in our magic pill society.

Depression? there's a pill for that.
Anxiety? there's a pill for that.
Low energy? Lack of focus? Insomnia? Pain? There's a pill for damn near everything.. most of them treat SYMPTOMS of the problem, not the problem that CAUSES the symptoms.

For example, ****** life = depression. Antidepressants dull your mind to a zombie state and you no longer realize your life sucks, so the depression just might go away for a few weeks until your mind is accustomed to the antidepressant.

One thing there is truth to is the raw food craze. Things that grow from the earth and are eaten exactly as they are picked, there's a life force to the food that exists. Hell, I eat raw steaks from time to time. Yes, a steak. Wriggling and bloody, raw as can be, no heat involved, straight out of the fridge still chilly... Talk about an energy boost >.<

(Yeh that corksil character, he is most certainly off his nut..)
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Old June 11th, 2014, 09:46 PM   #49
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Oh god, not ellipticals. I hate those things. Never trusted them, and probably never will. If I'm running, it's typically outdoors, and the only time I hop on the stationary cycle is when my joints (usually and ankle or knee) are giving me grief of the "back the **** off" variety. The light free weights are because I broke my wrist a little while back, and I'm not supposed to put more than on them, due to torn tendons and ligaments, which freaking blows. I hate that limit. I didn't ask the doc about sword training, because they can shove off if they tell me I have to give that up, too. I also hate how I basically have to feint most of the strikes with said wrist, since too many hits to the body opponent bag make it swell up or get stupid again. I've been trying to work up to a respectable amount of body-weight exercises, too, since doc said that I could do them as long as I "listened" to my wrist. I really like when all my muscles are tense, and feel heavy, to the point where stairs feel like a challenge, but I know I got it.

I should have clarified the ramen reference. I miscomunicated. That's the kind of eating I'm capable of, but don't engage in anymore (not ramen anyways, as it's been years since I touched the stuff). It was more meant to illustrate the volume of food I tend to consume when I'm getting exercise. Typically, one meal for me consists of a large bowl of brown or wild rice, covered with 15 oz of veggie chili (16+grams of protein) and a can of beans, chicken or fish served on the side, and carrots and spinach as an extra munchie. My bowl is big enough to cover my face and then some, and this still doesn't always fill me up, so I snack throughout the day. Right now I'm eating wild rice, chicken, asparagus, carrots, some potatoes, and beans. Breakfast is eggs, spinach, and more brown rice.

I try to eat clean most of the time, because I don't want my arteries to be all gross and heart-attack prone, but that's just for the whole internal health thing. Every now and again I'll get a massive unhealthy something or another and not care at all.

I've never worried about "spot trimming" or whatever. I don't think I've ever heard of it, or if I did, I figured it was silly and rubbish. Like you said, if you want to get rid of fat, do the cardio. But then again, I am ex-cross country, and that kind of sets and example of what cardio does. No, I no longer belong to the cult of distance running, but that's because I like having muscle mass. On the pump, I can't help but feel this is too appropriate not to link.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Thanks for the diet input though! I really appreciate it. It was getting to the point where I thought I was doing something wrong since I dropped some weight, but maybe I just need to up the volume of intake. And more water. I can always use more water.

Also, I just got back from a jog with a friend, because she needed motivation. Don't worry, I'm not overdoing the cardio. Her pace was such that I could sing obnoxiously the whole time and still hardly break a sweat.

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Sounds like you're certainly on the right track. You know about diet obviously because you eat better than I do.

I'd be eating the other half of my chicken breast tonight after a few beers, but I gave it to some pan handler who claimed to be homeless even though he was smoking expensive cigarettes and looking pretty fresh in a pressed shirt.

Injuries do suck... my left elbow has been complaining for the past few weeks. I thought it was from excessive masturbation, but I suspect that coupled with lifting and LOTS of riding and clutch-in-out probably all contribute. I suspect it's some kind of tendonitus, "tennis elbow" or basically just inflammation of the ligaments connecting my striated forearms to my rippling triceps. Oh man, I love being fit. It's literally life with god-mode cheat codes. Injuries are a pain though.. figuratively. You know what you're capable of, but your body just won't. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I'm going to keep throwing around the cliche weightlifting quotes until someone comments and then I'll probably spout off even more of them. Obsession is what the lazy use to describe the dedicated.

The sweet spot is always riding your personal edge. Asking just a little more of your body than what it is capable of giving. --- Note I said capable, not what it easily gives. Most people underestimate their limits. They run a few hundred feet and the lactic acid starts flowing so they feel tired and sit down. The real glory happens when you keep running, and you run more, and more, and suddenly WHAM your body realizes that you aren't going to stop so it pumps out that runners high and BAM your legs go numb, your arms feel light, the top of your head tingles, and you don't have a single thought in your head... just content and mellow. That's the real celebration of it all. Push through the pain until your body becomes accustomed to it, looks forward to it, revels in it, feeds off it and neeeeeds it. Then one day you look in the mirror or catch your reflection in a window and it hits you... "wow, look at that beautiful animal.... that's... is it?... is that... me? WOW damn I am a monster."

My diet isn't much of anything, I try to get some protein in after the lifts, but other than that I don't pay much attention to anything other than eating within a few hours of getting hungry. I feel lucky to have the body type that I can eat whatever I want, or not eat at all and still retain my figure.

^^ I'm guessing that's the vid where arnold goes... "yeeaaass, ze pummp, feels sooo nizee, like you are cummming, like someone is blowing aiiiiree into ze musscle and it feels so full and like you are cumming and you are cummmming 24/7 and feels so nizeee you are justtt commmming all ze timmmee!"

That was a good documentary.

I don't change my workouts much and I generally focus on high-reps with medium weight. On the third/final set, I'm doing 15 rep curls, 12 rep other things, 25 rep other other things, and 35 rep other things.. Set one, warm up, no breaks, power it out in 17 minutes, set two, feel that burn and push it, set three... fatigue on last rep each exercise, have to time the breaks right otherwise I can't finish the lift due to oxygen debt in the blood.

Now running on the other hand... I try to stick to my ten miles on the days I don't lift. Running on the beach is an added workout because you are dodging coral, driftwood, broken glass, thick sand, heavy sand, waves coming in... sometimes you're sinking 5 inches with each step.... juuuusttt keeeeeppp goooooiiiing. Left foot, right foot. Repeat until nausea comes on, then keep running until it passes. And hey, the faster you run, the sooner you're done

Surely I'd be a much more capable athlete if I didn't consume enough beer to kill a classroom of toddlers each night, but the body adapts to thrive on what you feed it, and that is certainly true. So here's to another two and burning all the toxins out of my blood tomorrow bright and early at dawn!

Keep up the good work everyone and take what works and leave the rest. And above all, push yourself and you'll find that the limits your mind imposes you are just that... limits that are easily overcome once the determination over powers the fake feeling of fatigue.
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Just gotta add... fitness is one of the only socially acceptable forms of 'self harm' -- if you pick up a blade and cut yourself and get high on the pain, you are said to have massive psychological problems. But if you run until you vomit, and lift until your vision blurs and you have to hold on to something while everything spins and your vision goes black... for some reason that's considered 'peachy.'

Fitness is considered a healthy 'outlet' because the body reacts to the abuse in a positive way and grows stronger, able to endure more -- then the cycle repeats.

Euroboros -- the snake in mythology that grows so large, that nothing else in it's habitat can feed it. It can't find prey big enough to satisfy it's hunger, so it's forced to consume it's tail to survive.. only the flesh of it's own body is ethereal enough to nourish it's existence, so it grows, consumes itself, grows bigger, supports it's own consumption, like the phoenix rising from the ashes from which it smoldered into pieces to rebirth itself and grow again.
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Did more slacklining, bodyweight exercises, and beach and hill runs yesterday, plus some lifting when I got home. I HATE how I can't lift heavy yet. At this rate, I'm going to look like some guy who's lived off of porn in his parents' basement, just based off of the one arm pushups I'm doing with my one arm, but the other one just can't hang. Uuuuugh. Stupid tendons and ligaments.

Basically the same routine today, minus the slacklining. Subbed that out for some bag work and kata/drills. Then more situps while watching my friend play some videogames.
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Did more slacklining, bodyweight exercises, and beach and hill runs yesterday, plus some lifting when I got home. I HATE how I can't lift heavy yet. At this rate, I'm going to look like some guy who's lived off of porn in his parents' basement, just based off of the one arm pushups I'm doing with my one arm, but the other one just can't hang. Uuuuugh. Stupid tendons and ligaments.

Basically the same routine today, minus the slacklining. Subbed that out for some bag work and kata/drills. Then more situps while watching my friend play some videogames.
I hear that first part.. my elbow keeps complaining but I press on. If it gets any worse, I'm gonna have to do something about it -- ie munch pain pills and keep lifting and hope it doesn't get worse.

By the way, through many years of empirical testing and quantitative data collection and research -- I have developed the scientific conclusion that a man cannot exist on porn alone. Unless there are hotpockets involved, the pepperoni ones in particular. But throughout my research career, there were no basements involved so maybe that variable could offset my findings. However I have no desire to continue that research.

I went for a hike and swam in a couple waterfalls today halfway along the road to hana. Usually not my thing, but sister was visiting and dragged me along. Lifting heavy is soooo niccceeee... There were a couple of vertical walls that had to be scaled to get through the hike.. I scampered up them hauling myself up the ropes/roots without even using my legs... then I turned around and watched the other participants struggling and getting exhausted and needing rest. Yeah don't mind me, sitting up here watching the toils of mere mortals as I smoke my cigarette

I'll bet your friend was playing his games watching you like "wtf is this woman possessed with that makes her want to do situps instead of sit on the couch.."

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I used to be big into strength training about 2 years ago. I'm a little guy (150lbs now, back when I did strength training I was 140lbs.. also I'm 5'7).

I only did strength training for a year. I was on a beginner program. Some of you may have heard of it. Strong lifts 5x5
I went from struggling to bench press 90lbs (I was 19 at the time) to being able to comfortably bench 185 3x5 (1 rep max was 200) I could squat 200 5x5 and dead lift 305 Also I would do 90lb weighted dips (not kidding) and 45lb chin ups and pull ups.

It all went though.. I lost all my strength about a year ago. I got a girlfriend became inconsistent and just stopped all together. Was with her for a year before having an extremely stressful break up about 2 months ago. Also I started Accutane about 4 months ago (which is a strong medication for acne that can cause achy joints and slow recovery). Not to mention about a month ago I got my bike and when I was riding it, it was like 2 hours a day every day.

I now sit here struggling to bench more than 150lbs for even a single rep. Dead lifts above 135. I don't even know how much I could squat. I'm sure even the bar would feel sort of heavy.

I can't blame anyone but myself honestly. But i'll get back into it again. If any of you need advice on strength training, I'll help you out. I may be weak now but my brain is still strong
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Great discussion!
I'm one of the older members ( 63 in 2 weeks) but I've been fairly consistant in working out ever since I was in my teens. I was fairly average then but once I started training I became a pretty good track and cross country runner and won overall physical fitness awards. I found that I love exercise and physical activity and I miss it if I go more than a day without some kind of workout.
I do most of my exercising at or around home; I find that if I had to go to a gym to work out I probably wouldn't have the time. I usually alternate between running, cycling ( usually MTB but some road cycling too) , weight training and calisthentics. As I've gotten older I've found I'm not as strong or fast as I used to be but I still can perform at pretty high levels. Compared to most of my peers I look about 20 years younger than they do. I can still do over 20 pullups and keep up with teenagers. It's all good!
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Took the long way home from work yesterday on the bicycle, almost 14 miles. Then did resistance training (I have a home gym). Now that the weather's nice, I need to fill up the standing bag with water and put it out on the back porch.

I don't really have enough space indoors to do my katas, so I'm going to just use the back yard, I guess.

Now that I've been consistently doing 3/week workouts, I'm finally seeing some progress, both in terms of bike average speeds going up, and weight going down. I'm trying to get back down to somewhere between 150-155 lbs, so I def don't want to bulk up.
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^I can't practice most of my kata indoors either, especially when it has anything to do with naginata or swordwork.
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So today was crazy busy, and I usually try to be in bed early since I have a 4:00AM tomorrow. I got home from work around 8PM, and got stuck on grandma duty until 9. Still needed to do some stuff before bed, like make my bed and crap, and I was like, "NOOOOOOPE. You're going to go work out, even if only for an hour, dumb***." So I pop outside into the marine layer for a run, and I'm pooped, but the whole time I'm trash-talking in my head. "No excuses, awwww why didn't you do this earlier? Guess what, too bad. Faster, little piggy. Don't you wish you did this first thing in the morning now? Oh well. Better luck tomorrow, **** face. Getting tired? Want to take a break? That all you got? Wah-wah. What's that? You aren't getting enough sleep? You don't need it anyway. Tough it out, wimpy." And stuff of a similar nature.

I get back to the house, and I feel like I'm going to puke, but that's not the plan. Time for some body weight and lifting circuits (includes sets of push-ups, planks, squats, lunges, presses, etc.) and more motivational trash-talking. Go me. Right up until I almost fall right on my stupid nose from doing push-ups to exhaustion, because who cares about set numbers past your minimum goal, right?

Now food, and realizing I'm having difficulty with lifting my plate, which is situated over my eye-level. And it isn't even loaded with food yet. Aaaah, hyup. Good times.
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@EternalNewb, its good you got your workout in but be careful to not overdo it. I used to be so compulsive in my workouts I would injure myself. Then you can't work out wile you recover or are limitied in what you can do.

Yesterday I had to replace a garbage disposal and work on removing the alternator from my wife's Lexus RX350. The disposal replacement was pretty straight forward but the alternator is a #$%^ bear ! I spent hours trying to wiggle the alternator out out of a very tight space in a hot garage. I finally quit without getting the alternator out. I had dinner was watching a baseball game when I rememebered I hadn't worked out today so I did situps, core workout, back exercises on the floor in front of the TV and finished off without with sets of one-armed and fingertip pushups. The A's won and I slept great last night!
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I almost had a throwdown with a dumbass jogger on the MUP yesterday. He was walking all over the trail like drunk monkey, not looking where he was going. I was coming up behind him on my bike, I yelled out a couple of times, but of course, he was being a iPod zombie and didn't hear anything until he almost stepped right in front of me and I blasted him with my 140 dB airhorn. THAT woke him up.

Of course, then he decided to get irate at me for trying not to run into him with the chainsaw*. I was ready to throwdown, but he eventually apologized and walked away, still calling me names, of course.

On the plus side, I finally got my heavy bag set up, so I had a good bit of a workout on that after I finished my 11.25 mile ride.

*this is my bike, note what's out in the front. Ain't me that's getting hurt if I run into someone....

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Love your recumbent! Very nice!!

I also have to watch out for hikers on the fireroads that I MTB on. Never had any angry confrontations but I do try hard to let them know I'll be passing them. Some wear headphones ( yes , even in the beautiful wolderness ) so they have a hard timing hearing my warning.

I love cycling and with my obsession for efficieny I'm thinking about building a velomobile. I did build a crude recumbent out of some junked bicycles and hope to make a better one as soon as I master some welding skills.
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Today was 12 miles pedaling on my mountain bike to do all my errands and an hour high-intensity intervals workout at the gym. Happy freakin' Monday!
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I used to be big into strength training about 2 years ago. I'm a little guy (150lbs now, back when I did strength training I was 140lbs.. also I'm 5'7).

I only did strength training for a year. I was on a beginner program. Some of you may have heard of it. Strong lifts 5x5
I went from struggling to bench press 90lbs (I was 19 at the time) to being able to comfortably bench 185 3x5 (1 rep max was 200) I could squat 200 5x5 and dead lift 305 Also I would do 90lb weighted dips (not kidding) and 45lb chin ups and pull ups.

It all went though.. I lost all my strength about a year ago. I got a girlfriend became inconsistent and just stopped all together. Was with her for a year before having an extremely stressful break up about 2 months ago. Also I started Accutane about 4 months ago (which is a strong medication for acne that can cause achy joints and slow recovery). Not to mention about a month ago I got my bike and when I was riding it, it was like 2 hours a day every day.

I now sit here struggling to bench more than 150lbs for even a single rep. Dead lifts above 135. I don't even know how much I could squat. I'm sure even the bar would feel sort of heavy.

I can't blame anyone but myself honestly. But i'll get back into it again. If any of you need advice on strength training, I'll help you out. I may be weak now but my brain is still strong
That's what I hate more than anything else... backsliding. If I take a few days off I can look in the mirror and tell. I'm not particularly huge either, so maybe it's just psychological.

Perhaps you could answer me this. How do I consistently gain mass and become stronger without working out? Some days I just don't feel like it and if there was a way around working out... some kind of magic trick or closely guarded secret, I'd love to know.

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I'm one of the older members ( 63 in 2 weeks) but I've been fairly consistant in working out ever since I was in my teens. I was fairly average then but once I started training I became a pretty good track and cross country runner and won overall physical fitness awards. I found that I love exercise and physical activity and I miss it if I go more than a day without some kind of workout.
I do most of my exercising at or around home; I find that if I had to go to a gym to work out I probably wouldn't have the time. I usually alternate between running, cycling ( usually MTB but some road cycling too) , weight training and calisthentics. As I've gotten older I've found I'm not as strong or fast as I used to be but I still can perform at pretty high levels. Compared to most of my peers I look about 20 years younger than they do. I can still do over 20 pullups and keep up with teenagers. It's all good!
Kudos to all my brother and sister exercisers , keep up the good work!
You'll probably live atleast 10 years longer than many of your friends of similar age. Staying in shape has excellent psychological benefits as well.

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Took the long way home from work yesterday on the bicycle, almost 14 miles. Then did resistance training (I have a home gym). Now that the weather's nice, I need to fill up the standing bag with water and put it out on the back porch.

I don't really have enough space indoors to do my katas, so I'm going to just use the back yard, I guess.

Now that I've been consistently doing 3/week workouts, I'm finally seeing some progress, both in terms of bike average speeds going up, and weight going down. I'm trying to get back down to somewhere between 150-155 lbs, so I def don't want to bulk up.
Excellent work! Keep it up dude.
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So today was crazy busy, and I usually try to be in bed early since I have a 4:00AM tomorrow. I got home from work around 8PM, and got stuck on grandma duty until 9. Still needed to do some stuff before bed, like make my bed and crap, and I was like, "NOOOOOOPE. You're going to go work out, even if only for an hour, dumb***." So I pop outside into the marine layer for a run, and I'm pooped, but the whole time I'm trash-talking in my head. "No excuses, awwww why didn't you do this earlier? Guess what, too bad. Faster, little piggy. Don't you wish you did this first thing in the morning now? Oh well. Better luck tomorrow, **** face. Getting tired? Want to take a break? That all you got? Wah-wah. What's that? You aren't getting enough sleep? You don't need it anyway. Tough it out, wimpy." And stuff of a similar nature.

I get back to the house, and I feel like I'm going to puke, but that's not the plan. Time for some body weight and lifting circuits (includes sets of push-ups, planks, squats, lunges, presses, etc.) and more motivational trash-talking. Go me. Right up until I almost fall right on my stupid nose from doing push-ups to exhaustion, because who cares about set numbers past your minimum goal, right?

Now food, and realizing I'm having difficulty with lifting my plate, which is situated over my eye-level. And it isn't even loaded with food yet. Aaaah, hyup. Good times.
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@EternalNewb, its good you got your workout in but be careful to not overdo it. I used to be so compulsive in my workouts I would injure myself. Then you can't work out wile you recover or are limitied in what you can do.

Yesterday I had to replace a garbage disposal and work on removing the alternator from my wife's Lexus RX350. The disposal replacement was pretty straight forward but the alternator is a #$%^ bear ! I spent hours trying to wiggle the alternator out out of a very tight space in a hot garage. I finally quit without getting the alternator out. I had dinner was watching a baseball game when I rememebered I hadn't worked out today so I did situps, core workout, back exercises on the floor in front of the TV and finished off without with sets of one-armed and fingertip pushups. The A's won and I slept great last night!
I have removed hundreds of alternators over the years working as an automotive mechanic. Usually there's a specific angle or twist that you can work it out in. REMEMBER THAT ANGLE because you'll have to go all through it again when you have to put the new one back in.

And I hate to say it, but I've had to remove motor mounts and jack an engine up off of the frame to make a suitable gap before. Hopefully that's not the case with your lexus.

Don't forget that there's usually very detailed DIY guides for most common tasks like that on the internet.

Good workout, and good luck!
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^^ worldtraveller, that's a somewhat strange contraption you ride, but it looks comfy. I love that feeling of a good workout -- it's like everything else in life gets quiet for an hour or so. Nothing really matters anymore, you just feel mellow.

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I also have to watch out for hikers on the fireroads that I MTB on. Never had any angry confrontations but I do try hard to let them know I'll be passing them. Some wear headphones ( yes , even in the beautiful wolderness ) so they have a hard timing hearing my warning.

I love cycling and with my obsession for efficieny I'm thinking about building a velomobile. I did build a crude recumbent out of some junked bicycles and hope to make a better one as soon as I master some welding skills.
Good luck and that sounds like a great project! Make a thread about it and we can watch your progress with pictures etc.

I can relate to both of your posts... ^^ ^^, because when I run on the beach, there is of course an optimal spot to run where the water washes in/out, and the sand is just the right hardness that you don't get tired as quickly. Of course that's where every single damn ipod zombie landwhale is strolling along wheezing and sweating as it struggles to bend over and pick up seashells. MOVE. PEOPLE. PAY. ATTENTION. AND MOVE.

Anyways I'm off to hit the weights for today. Tame the mind but make savage the body.
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That's what I hate more than anything else... backsliding. If I take a few days off I can look in the mirror and tell. I'm not particularly huge either, so maybe it's just psychological.

Perhaps you could answer me this. How do I consistently gain mass and become stronger without working out? Some days I just don't feel like it and if there was a way around working out... some kind of magic trick or closely guarded secret, I'd love to know.
What do you mean? You want to find a way to continue to grow strength and muscle without working out? Unfortunately there really isn't a way.. When you work out you destroy muscle fibers, you replace the fibers with protein, and when you sleep your body uses the protein to rebuild the fibers that were destroyed from working out.

In order to gain muscle and strength you need 3 things, Exercise, food, sleep. That's it.

There's no trick or secret, etc. Unless you are referring to steroids. Some people are "mesomorphs" which mean they genetically have more muscle than, say, a endomorph or ectomorph.

My suggestion is just do a workout program you enjoy for an hour a day. Eat above your maintenance calories (anywhere between 300-800 cals, depending on how hard you want to bulk) and make sure to get at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (although if you are not trying bulk too hard, then .5 gram/lb of bw will suffice.) Then the most important step, get 8-10 hours a sleep. The more the better.

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Yeah perhaps my humor was overlooked. I was just pulling your dong. Not that I'm a dong puller or anything. I was just trying to get a rise out of ya... get it? Rising? Dong? Funny?




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Okay moving right along...




Everything you stated is indeed true. I'm not too sure about the diet part, or the sleep part. I generally stick to a diet consisting primarily of beerand cigarettes after the sun goes down, Usually a midnight snack consisting of ramen noodles... During the day, coq10 in the morning, 2 fish oil, 2 glucosamine, b-complex, daily multi-V, and then usually a few sips of water later in the morning if my stomach complains about the boiling froth of supplements consisting largely of heavy metals and fish-burps. Lunch usually doesn't happen till around 3, usually a light snack (today was a bag of corn nuts, but that's not the norm and eating those things feels like chewing on pebbles..)

Oh, and cigarettes. An average of 10.9 over the course of the day, usually mostly consumed after 8pm. I've been logging my cigarette consumption over the past few years and I'm pretty stabilized in the upper ten-per-day quadrant. I've spiked as high as 12.1 during stressful months, and hit a lower-threshold of 7ish when I keep an eye on consumption.

As for sleep, I average about 6 hrs per night -- give or take.

Here's to being [redacted] and having a body that will do whatever you ask of it and train it to exist on. It's amazing what stomach and intestinal bacteria will adapt to and thrive off of. I've always been a light eater -- the average portion size of a typical restaurant meal is generally 3 meals for me. However I am a notoriously slow eater -- and lots of chewing and eating slowly results in a feeling of satiety that arrives sooner (before you finish the plate) -- and increased absorption of nutrients due to the expanded surface area of over-chewed food.

Occasionally I have a sip of balsamic vinegar in the morning with the supplements -- as it seems to prime the stomach and alleviate that boiling gut feeling of "Take-supplements-with-food-next-time."

Apart from that my routine is generally 1hr every other day of heavy lifting. The routine doesn't change much, but I vary the reps on the final set so I fatigue different muscles on different days. Mostly compound lifts with free-weights, pull ups, push ups, reverse grip pull ups, wide grip pull ups, curls, hammer curls, overhead tricep press, dips on the second stair of my porch with feet stretched out ahead of me, that kind of stuff. Currently my free weights are 32lb apiece I believe, and I'll have to add a few more plates soon because I feel a plateau coming on (usually happens every few months) -- the plateau becomes evident when it takes 30+ reps to failure on certain exercises.

I'd give an honest estimate of 7-8% bodyfat. I used to like swimming, but I haven't for the past few years because after putting on considerable (lean) muscle mass, I no longer float. Frustrating actually, I went swimming with a colleague the other day and she's just chilling there in the water... not flailing her arms, not breathing heavily -- and she looks over at me thrashing about to keep my head above water and says "relax, don't panic or you could drown."

At which point I held my breath, stopped moving, and in several seconds sank to a depth of ~25 feet.

On the days I don't lift (every other day) -- I try to get to the beach and run ten miles schedule permitting, but realistically that only happens half the time. Sometimes I do pullups to fatigue in the mornings that I don't lift and don't have time (EXCUSE) for running.




So what would you recommend I do to maximize my gains? Diet would be the first area to improve I would suppose, particularly eating food of some type, preferably carbs. And lean protein such as chicken breast.

I don't pay much attention to diet. I used to dabble with creatine but I didn't like the always thirsty, bloated water weight feeling of "size" without "effectiveness."

Sometimes I have a protein shake after lifting heavy... Once in a blue moon.

One last thing to note -- If I don't keep on with my lifting heavy, I drop weight like no one else. I took one week off of lifting a few months back due to minor surgery and being bed-ridden and I lost 12lb in one week. Surely the diet of beer, bong, and vicodin did not help, but hey -- it's what the doc prescribed. A friend I hadn't seen in a few weeks told me I was looking "bigger than ever" but I could see the 12lb weight loss clearly in the mirror -- so perhaps it was largely psychological. Body disomorphia or something to that effect. Then again, the scale doesn't lie. And 32lbs will always 32lbs. The human lifting the weight is the only one who decides what feels heavy and what feels very heavy.

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I'd like to clarify, "lifting to fatigue" does not mean "omg it hurts, put it down and relax."

My definition of lifting to fatigue is "lift it until you can't raise the weight anymore, under any circumstance, you can't physically lift the weight even though there are nine mosquitoes sucking the blood out of your ankles and elbows and you really really want to get that last rep done so you can put down the weight and stop the stinging sensations as your become the dinner of insects."

Lifting to fatigue means you are unable to complete the repetition, because your CNS simply does not have the energy reserve left to operate the muscle, so you get the weight 50% lifted and you just stand there screaming inside your head "LIFT MOTHERUFCKER LIFT THAT ISHT LIFT IT LIFT IT LIFT IT" but your body won't obey.

Then you accept the failure of your limitation but do not give in to the body's weakness and put down the weight -- instead you focus on your breathing, silence your mind, hold the weight at 50% lift, breathe, breathe, wait, and then finally complete the lift. Then put it down, count to ten, and crank out three more of the same lift as quickly as you can. Then you repeat until you either total ten 12 more reps, or simply cannot.

It's amazing what the body does when the mind gives it a very simple command. The body is willing but the flesh is weak. Today. That's why you lift. Because tomorrow, you'll overcome those limits. Then again, tomorrow never comes. You never reach your limits. How sad it is for a man to reach the end of his years without knowing what his body is capable of.

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(And if I can't lift it with my own body, I sit behind the controls of my super-strength-suit and use the mechanical advantage of human ingenuity to get the job done.)
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Set my best average speed to work today. 16.9 mph.

It helps that I got behind a big box truck on my 'bent, and drafted it for almost a mile at over 30 mph. It was making a big hole in the air for me.

Ride home should be nice...80 degrees, very little breeze, then I'll do the heavy bag and weights.
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So what would you recommend I do to maximize my gains? Diet would be the first area to improve I would suppose, particularly eating food of some type, preferably carbs. And lean protein such as chicken breast.


I would eliminate the smoking. You have a great work ethic and passion for working out, don't sabotage yourself with this unhealthy addiction. I've lost my dad and oldest brother to cancer and neither smoked as much as you. My 2 cents worth( now stepping off soapbox) .

Thanks for sharing your experience about alternators, I thought I was going crazy with getting the Lexus' out. I could wiggle it but cooldn't get it to move enough to have a chance of removing it. I ended up removing the plastic back cover of the alternator to further reduce its size and found another bracket hidden away on the inner end. I removed it and now the alternator is totally free. I still don't have enough space to remove it so I'll be removing the radiator to get enough space to get it out and the replacement in.
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Think outside the box ^^ there might be a part that comes out more easily than the radiator that will provide room..

Smoking. Heh. We all have our priorities. When the pain exceeds the pleasure, the use becomes abuse and the relationship should be ended. (I find that to be universally applicable to all relationships, personal, professional, material, etc.)
@Worldtraveller -- Nice! Keep up the good work!

About to finish up a couple menial tasks and then it's off to the beach for a run as long as the wind holds. Wind = empty beach. Friday = crowded beach. Windy friday = empty beach.
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@corksil, You were right ^^^! I got the alternator out and replaced by loosening the radiator and electric fan shroud and then cutting 2 slots in the fan shroud so that I could move it to the side more to create just enough space. I put everything back together yesterday and all is working well with good voltage output. It was another tough day of work but I still finished it off with sit-ups, core exercises and 4 sets of pullups.

It's great that you live near the beach and can run along the pounding waves; it's one of my favorite venues for running.

@Worldtraveler, congrats on your good average speed reading! It's good to measure your progress so that you can see your improvement.
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Another day of lifting for me. That is, after I strengthen my mind with a few hours of studying.
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Before going to college I did 3 straight years of crossfit then when I went to school I had to ride everywhere since I had no car. I was pushing out 30-120 miles a week on the most s^%$y road bike in the world. On the upside my legs were so freaking strong, since I varied from heavy sprints to slow endurance rides. I sold the darn thing 2 years ago, then recently I realized how much I missed riding. So a week ago I picked up my dream bike, a 2013 Specialized Allez Comp M2, shoes+clipless pedals and all.

Last week or so I've been doing short 10-20 milers 2-3 times a week and a 30 miler once a week. I'm sure Once I get a routine down I'll pick up the pace and distance. Gonna throw in some trail running and body weight workouts in too....yeehaa!

BTW I'm 22...5'11", 195-200lbs with love handles and a belly that I want to desperately get rid of.

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Nice! Keep updating your progress in this thread because it motivates the rest of us.

I used to be into cycling, of the MTB variety, but there was lots of road riding to get to the trails and it got to the point where riding that much on the side of narrow roads just wasn't safe.

I just smashed a great workout, feeling the pump now.. nice and mellow.

Burned out a few extra reps to failure to push through the plateau I've been experiencing lately. I think I'm going to feel it tomorrow.

Keep in mind -- you cannot spot-reduce fat. There's no way to tone a specific area while the rest of the body stays plump and fluffy. Bodyfat drops off as a whole. Of course that's more of an issue with women who just want to tone a specific area and feel fine with the rest of their rotundness.

However I've you've done a bit of crossfit, you probably have sound knowledge in terms of fitness etc.

Keep up the good work everyone! Time to mow the lawn, which is a bit tiring in itself with foot-high grass and a weak pushmower. Might as well do it shirtless and get a nice(er) tan in the process.
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Got the lid off a particularly tough pickle jar without calling a plumber.
I don't have a TV so I press random numbers into a calculator to make up for the lack of exercise on a remote.
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Corky, I like this thread. Prepare for my biking junk

Been doing some biking, no running so far this summer. Biking is more fun. I bike to work, I bike for workout, I bike when I'm bored. My 5'9" 130lb self just likes biking. I held my own in soccer when I played club teams and whatnot, but biking is so much more fun. Don't forget, it's always about mind over matter. If you bonk when you're 8 miles from home, you still have to get home.

Here's what I was up to yesterday:
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Today looks like some MTB action is in the werkz. Lots of rain lately, but the trails have drained quickly (allegedly).


@NDspd, I love the Allez. I've worked on a bunch of those at work. They're really great bikes. The metal work on those frames is impressive, especially in the elite, expert, and race spec levels.

Here's my roadie setup. 2014 Giant Defy 1. 1000 miles on it right now. Hoping to get to 2000 by the end of summer.
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