Bypassing ABS?

[Mike K]

I want to bypass the ABS unit on my 2014 track bike. I have a new Galfer braided line.

The reason for doing so is that I can't bleed the front brake to firm enough. It always remains spongy. One of the coaches at TPM told me that it has to be done by the dealer. Apparently they connect a sensor or computer to the bike to engage the ABS for bleeding. Nope. I want to do it and I want a stiff lever for those rare occasions on track where I actually use the brakes.

My question is will the bike run/operate as before if I disconnect the ABS unit and go with direct lines?

Thanks

[Ghostt]

Have your serviced the calipers? Flush and fill new fluid? How are bleeding the brake system?

I use and recommend picking up a hand vacuum pump, like this one, makes bleeding brakes easy and quick, takes me about 2 minutes at the most.

HFS (R) 2 in 1 Brake Bleeder & Vacuum Pump Test Tuner Tool Kit New https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NP60URE..._3mvGxbY9ZCYSX

Comes in handy for a lot of things requiring vacuum, like testing petcock, bleeding brakes, sensors, etc.....

[Mike K]

That looks like a nice system but it's a pretty simple process for the Ninja.

Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze and hold. Open, close nipple. Repeat. It's the ABS unit that's the issue.

[RacinNinja]

Originally Posted by Mike K

I want to bypass the ABS unit on my 2014 track bike. I have a new Galfer braided line.

The reason for doing so is that I can't bleed the front brake to firm enough. It always remains spongy. One of the coaches at TPM told me that it has to be done by the dealer. Apparently they connect a sensor or computer to the bike to engage the ABS for bleeding. Nope. I want to do it and I want a stiff lever for those rare occasions on track where I actually use the brakes.

My question is will the bike run/operate as before if I disconnect the ABS unit and go with direct lines?

Thanks

The coach at TPM is wrong. It doesn't require a special tool, bleed as normal. That said, have you checked yours for the recalls to see if it is under recall for a brake issue? The sensor can interfere with the front brake, leading to uneven wear, and the issue you describe.

Check your VIN number here: https://www.kawasaki.com/OwnerSupport/SafetyRecall

[Mike K]

I'll check on Tuesday.

[RacinNinja]

One other thing, have you tried tying the brake lever back to the bar with a zip tie over night?

[Ghostt]

Originally Posted by Mike K

That looks like a nice system but it's a pretty simple process for the Ninja.

Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze and hold. Open, close nipple. Repeat. It's the ABS unit that's the issue.

Clearly you've never used one, it's even easier, open bleeder, pump, pump pump, and done, obviously top off the fluid and your done, no more need for endless pumping, or worried about trapped air, etc...

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Mike K

. I want to do it and I want a stiff lever for those rare occasions on track where I actually use the brakes.



Thanks

Now I know why these bikes are fastest in the corners!

[RacinNinja]

I don't know why it wouldn't work to just bypass them. The ABS unit is just a passive one so it shouldn't interfere with engine management features that I know of. I's hoping your issues are tied to the recall. If it is under recall, even bypassing it won't help.

[Brother Michigan]

Originally Posted by Ghostt

Clearly you've never used one, it's even easier, open bleeder, pump, pump pump, and done, obviously top off the fluid and your done, no more need for endless pumping, or worried about trapped air, etc...

I wish my Mityvac was that simple... takes me longer to get a good seal on any bleeder valve than it takes me to just bleed the brakes the old-fashioned way...

[Mike K]

The ABS has to go. I had very little brake left after 4 or 5 laps of Shenny.

Anyone have a spare stock rear brake line?

Mike

[RacinNinja]

I would recommend unplugging the ABS unit and going for a ride to see what it does to the ECU.

On it's big brother the ZX6, it pretty much turns on every idiot light there is on the dash simply by removing the lines....

I can't find anything on removing the unit. This would be a way to test and see what would happen before you went through all the work to bypass it.

This place has some helpful hints as well: http://www.kawasa***************/for...s-removal.html

[Panda]

Originally Posted by RacinNinja

One other thing, have you tried tying the brake lever back to the bar with a zip tie over night?

Dumb question but what does this do?

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by Panda

Dumb question but what does this do?

It's an exercise of patience that most do not have to force air out of a brake system.

[GregS]

Originally Posted by csmith12

It's an exercise of patience that most do not have to force air out of a brake system.

An exercise of patience would be holding the brake lever all night without using the ziptie

[juan1]

sorry to bring this back, but did any one find a solution for the wear issue also i was wondering if just running a single line to the caliper in front and rear will do the job?

[Mike K]

I'm not sure what you're referring to but I put a braided line on the front and a stock non-abs hose in the rear. I did remove the entire ABS system and hard lines with no ill effect on either the brakes or electronics. The brake lever is solid now.

[juan1]

Originally Posted by Mike K

I'm not sure what you're referring to but I put a braided line on the front and a stock non-abs hose in the rear. I did remove the entire ABS system and hard lines with no ill effect on either the brakes or electronics. The brake lever is solid now.

thats exactly the answer I'm looking for thanks Mike and sorry i could be confusing at times

[Mike K]

Glad to help. Is your 300 for street or track?

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by RacinNinja

One other thing, have you tried tying the brake lever back to the bar with a zip tie over night?

Sorry that I never replied to this. Yes, this is my routine. Both track bikes whenever parked. I have velcro straps for this. Keeps the valve open and lets any air percolate up and out of the line.

[juan1]

Originally Posted by Mike K

Glad to help. Is your 300 for street or track?

the plan is to use the bike for trackways only se how that goes i still have a couple other bikes i use on the street

[Mike K]

What organization do you ride with?

[juan1]

Originally Posted by Mike K

What organization do you ride with?

I used to go a lot with absolute but they are a little to crowded for me, now days I'm going to try rpm for njmp but most likely I'll be at nyst a lot more over the season

[Mike K]

What group do you ride in (white, red, blue)?

[juan1]

Originally Posted by Mike K

What group do you ride in (white, red, blue)?

With absolute I was in the advance group I don't know what would that be with rpm and with nyst I ride in the intermedia group

[Mike K]

There's one more weekend coming up with TPM in North Carolina at NCNike. Fun track and not crowded.

[juan1]

Originally Posted by Mike K

There's one more weekend coming up with TPM in North Carolina at NCNike. Fun track and not crowded.

I would love to go but the budget for the season is gone lol