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Old September 26th, 2016, 11:26 PM   #1
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Can anybody tell me exactly what I am working with here

This is what I know
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I will upload a pic I am curious about if I have a stock exhaust or aftermarket?

I want to replace / repair it, it sounds like **** & I do not like that. Not sure if its a leak or just needs a new one.

I also need to do a valve adjustment.

Whenever I look for stuff online, I do find an overwhelming amount of info, however I am not even sure if it applies to my bike, b/c I rarely see just the 250 ex. I will upload a pic of it. e02f5d6488cc436b95c2be3ad4aa0810.jpg not sure how to upload it. I can take a closer one if needed.

I did do my own oil and filter, and I am seriously determined to learn how to work on and take apart and put together this bike, and any future bikes I get. I did get my own tool box and everything. However some guidance at the starting line here would be so much appreciated.

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Old September 27th, 2016, 12:24 AM   #2
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Looks like an aftermarket exhaust. Hard to tell, can you take a closer picture?
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Welcome, and I love the color scheme of your Ninjette.

Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks aftermarket, maybe a muzzy?

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Nice bike

If you want to make it easier to post pictures , try using a picture hosting site ex: Photobucket
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If you want to make it easier to post pictures , try using a picture hosting site ex: Photobucket
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I've had a good experience with Photobucket, although you're not the first person I've heard who finds it slow, B. I don't find Photobucket to be slow at all, and I see very few prompts to get the paid version.

I don't know if it makes any difference, but I don't use Flash, so some of the mouse-over and click features of PB don't work. To get BBS code I have to do it the "hard" way, like right click and hit "copy", or double click to highlight.
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Yea. I just do the [ img ] link here [/ img]
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Does not look like stock exhaust to me; not sure what brand of aftermarket.
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2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250 ex
I will upload a pic I am curious about if I have a stock exhaust or aftermarket?

I want to replace / repair it, it sounds like **** & I do not like that. Not sure if its a leak or just needs a new one.

I also need to do a valve adjustment.

Whenever I look for stuff online, I do find an overwhelming amount of info, however I am not even sure if it applies to my bike, b/c I rarely see just the 250 ex. I will upload a pic of it. not sure how to upload it. I can take a closer one if needed.

I did do my own oil and filter, and I am seriously determined to learn how to work on and take apart and put together this bike, and any future bikes I get. I did get my own tool box and everything. However some guidance at the starting line here would be so much appreciated.
Hello Carol and welcome.

To get back on topic...

Just remember when you look for technical posts about your bike that any Ninja 250 between 1986-2007 (Pregen) will be pretty close to what your bike will be like. So, you may want to search for "pregen" or even "2007 Ninja 250" to get bikes that may be similar to yours.

Concerning how to start to learn to fix your own bike, start small, like you did with the oil change. Great start! Then start to take the plastic pieces off of your bike, see what is underneath and learn to replace it. Don't be afraid to make some mistakes. There are lots of great people around here to help you figure out what you did wrong.

I suggest that you start to take pieces off and clean or lube them if required and then put them back on. Make your bike fit your personality. Make it yours and understand how it works. Personally, I like to take anything off that I feel is not necessary, like too much plastic, passenger pegs, original air box, etc.

A bike that old will have a lot of cracked, dried out or missing hoses. Learn where they go and replace them as time requires. Learn how the carbs work and how to get to them so you can fix, clean, adjust or modify them.

Enjoy it! Take your time and be brave! Learn to fix issues without running to an expensive bike shop for everything. Use this old bike as a jigsaw puzzle all your own.

Enjoy! See you around a lot I hope.

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One last comment.

In my humble opinion, decide what is most important, to get it running right away and riding it or is it more important to understand how the bike works and to learn to fix it little by little yourself.

Do you just want to ride it as it is or do you want to make it fit your personality and to be your toy to take apart and to put it back together the right way?

You will find both kinds of people here, so take what you are told with that in mind.

Personally, I would rather make my cheap little bike an extension of what I like, feel and desire. Of course I like to ride too, but I bought my 10 year old Ninja 250 so that I wouldn't be afraid to make a lot of mistakes without a high sticker price.

First decide what you want out of this bike and follow your heart.
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Looks like an aftermarket exhaust. Hard to tell, can you take a closer picture?
Yes I will. Sorry I did not notice this was moved, so whenever I looked at it I noticed no views. anyway Yes I will.

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Old September 28th, 2016, 12:24 PM   #14
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Welcome, and I love the color scheme of your Ninjette.

Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks aftermarket, maybe a muzzy?

If your looking for a great WIKI on the Ninjette look over at our brothers and sisters website NINJA 250 RIDERS CLUB, it's one of the best for information on the Ninjette, but some of it is dated, but all is great reading.

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One last comment.

In my humble opinion, decide what is most important, to get it running right away and riding it or is it more important to understand how the bike works and to learn to fix it little by little yourself.

Do you just want to ride it as it is or do you want to make it fit your personality and to be your toy to take apart and to put it back together the right way?

You will find both kinds of people here, so take what you are told with that in mind.

Personally, I would rather make my cheap little bike an extension of what I like, feel and desire. Of course I like to ride too, but I bought my 10 year old Ninja 250 so that I wouldn't be afraid to make a lot of mistakes without a high sticker price.

First decide what you want out of this bike and follow your heart.
wow that is brilliant. Hmmm, as usual I am undecided. (what a shock) I personally think I want to go bigger, just a little bit. So before I decide to put a bunch of money or time or energy in this one I have to weigh the options.

Additionally, I do not think it would hurt for me to keep her about 6 months, unless the lack of power just absolutely makes me crazy.

( undecided ) It is cost effective way to learn, and not go broke while doing so. hhhhhhmmmmm
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Hello Carol and welcome.

To get back on topic...

Just remember when you look for technical posts about your bike that any Ninja 250 between 1986-2007 (Pregen) will be pretty close to what your bike will be like. So, you may want to search for "pregen" or even "2007 Ninja 250" to get bikes that may be similar to yours.

Concerning how to start to learn to fix your own bike, start small, like you did with the oil change. Great start! Then start to take the plastic pieces off of your bike, see what is underneath and learn to replace it. Don't be afraid to make some mistakes. There are lots of great people around here to help you figure out what you did wrong.

I suggest that you start to take pieces off and clean or lube them if required and then put them back on. Make your bike fit your personality. Make it yours and understand how it works. Personally, I like to take anything off that I feel is not necessary, like too much plastic, passenger pegs, original air box, etc.

A bike that old will have a lot of cracked, dried out or missing hoses. Learn where they go and replace them as time requires. Learn how the carbs work and how to get to them so you can fix, clean, adjust or modify them.

Enjoy it! Take your time and be brave! Learn to fix issues without running to an expensive bike shop for everything. Use this old bike as a jigsaw puzzle all your own.

Enjoy! See you around a lot I hope.

Peace

Awww I love this idea here. Yep I think I might have decided. Not sure yet
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Additionally, I do not think it would hurt for me to keep her about 6 months, unless the lack of power just absolutely makes me crazy.
If it's running right, it has plenty of power. I have a couple faster motorcycles, one a lot faster, but the 250 is as much or more fun to ride than they are, and the twistier the road, the more fun it is.
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If it's running right, it has plenty of power. I have a couple faster motorcycles, one a lot faster, but the 250 is as much or more fun to ride than they are, and the twistier the road, the more fun it is.
I agree. If you learn to repair, mod and tune your little 250, I promise you that it has plenty of power, especially for a smaller person or a woman rider.

Learning to ride your 250 and also learning to repair and maintain it will help you with a larger bike when you are ready. Don't get in a hurry to move up in CCs just because other people brag about the power. That power can kill you quickly if you aren't ready for it.

Lastly, it isn't about the destination, it's about the ride. Enjoy what you have now. Then once you are ready you can trade this great bike in for another bigger used bike.

Enjoy the ride. Remember, anything you learn to do well is never a waste of time.
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Yes I will. Sorry I did not notice this was moved, so whenever I looked at it I noticed no views. anyway Yes I will.

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Technical tip:

If the exhaust is an after market, then check to see if your bike has the original plastic air box or does it have an after market "pod" type air filter.

When the air box and/or the exhaust has been changed, to get the bike to run right, the carb jets need to be changed for the bike to ride right. Your carb main jets may not have been changed when the exhaust was added.

First thing to do is to see what kind of air filter your bike has. (To do that remove the seat.)

Don't worry about the carb jets yet. Just see what mods the bike has first.
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Technical tip:

If the exhaust is an after market, then check to see if your bike has the original plastic air box or does it have an after market "pod" type air filter.

When the air box and/or the exhaust has been changed, to get the bike to run right, the carb jets need to be changed for the bike to ride right. Your carb main jets may not have been changed when the exhaust was added.

First thing to do is to see what kind of air filter your bike has. (To do that remove the seat.)

Don't worry about the carb jets yet. Just see what mods the bike has first.
Omg so much good advice here. I will do that tonight when my son and I return from Kung fu. ( him not me)

Funny about my bikes color scheme; I wish I could take credit for it but I bought it that way. I love pink and quite honestly that is why I bought it. ( I know I have heard it all, but truth be told, that is why)

The girl I bought it from was very dedicated to her painting. She did it with a brush! Yes a brush. Additionally, there is not a part on the bike that was not painted with a brush. Go ahead name the part, I bet it was painted. All the way down to the little window holes where I look for fluids. Yes for real.

After learning a bit more about these bikes and seeing how inexpensive graphic kits are and stuff I have to wonder why in the world would anybody spend what had to be 100 + hours and at least 9 coats of paint when some stickers would have done the same.

Anyway her decision, so be it. The window holes are now visible to see fluids in and as I proceed through the bike I will be dealing with the paint. But it is pink and that makes it beautiful to me.
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I wouldn't have thought to paint a bike with a brush but I guess that's one way to make sure it's exactly how you want it.
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I wouldn't have thought to paint a bike with a brush but I guess that's one way to make sure it's exactly how you want it.
Let's admit it, a motorcycle in most cases is not a utility vehicle like a car. For many people, a bike is about expressing themselves. They are telling the world who they are and what they believe.

With that said, why not just make your bike your "canvas on wheels"? The previous owner just took that literally! *smile* And I'm all for it. You just have to make sure that the bike runs well also.

That can sometimes be harder than putting a sticker or some paint on the bike.

But yes, express yourself! With stickers, a paint brush or a box end wrench. Be brave and create your masterpiece. Just do it well...
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Now you've got me stressing about the plans for my bike
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[QUOTE=Wanderer;1137216 With that said, why not just make your bike your "canvas on wheels"? [/QUOTE]

Sure, why not? Just something I wouldn't have thought about doing.
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Now you've got me stressing about the plans for my bike
Don't stress. There is no right result just like there is no right piece of art.

Try to be patient, there is no deadline. I spent my whole life trying to make everything happen on some schedule or deadline. Now that I'm an old man and in the later years of my life, I no longer get in a hurry.

The key is enjoying each day as it comes to you. The past is gone and tomorrow isn't here yet. All you have is right now, today. So, do what you can and let the rest take care of itself.

Sometimes just find some time to just sit and look at your bike like a blank canvas. Then see what comes you and start "painting", metaphorically speaking. *smile* I prefer to "paint" with a screwdriver and a wrench.

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I wouldn't have thought to paint a bike with a brush but I guess that's one way to make sure it's exactly how you want it.
Right, I agree I just hope and pray that every timer she did maintenance of any kind she just repainted the bolts and stuff to make it look untouched
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So my 2nd task has been completed. That was taking the seat, side fairing ( not necessary but I wanted to see what was there anyway) off, unscrewing the bar thing over the the air filter box with the 2 holes in it.

Removed the air cleaner filter
Washed with DAWN
Rinsed and rinsed and rinsed.
Let dry for like 2 min and decided to blow dry it. ( I felt that was ok since my blowdryer does not give split ends or damage hair.

Now the adding of oil. Welll..... I somehow interpreted that part as to SOAK it. and I did. HA huge oil dripping everywhere.
NO GOOD. NOT SAFE FOR ME, OR ANY OTHER BIKE OR PERSON WHO VENTURES BEHIND ME.

Took the day off work, went to my buddies and after the chuckles and guessing the weight of the air filter with the oil) we cleaned and wiped and made it right.

So another thing I need to do is next order a complete bolt set for the farings.

No two bolts are the same anywhere on this bike.

And as creativity has shown up before, this did not disappoint some parts were hot glue gunned.

Which I can attend to that had somebody informed me. Anywhooo thats coming next.
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Matching bolts, what a concept. You will only need two screwdrivers to get your fairings off with the right bolts. What fun is that?
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Don't stress. There is no right result just like there is no right piece of art.

Try to be patient, there is no deadline. I spent my whole life trying to make everything happen on some schedule or deadline. Now that I'm an old man and in the later years of my life, I no longer get in a hurry.

The key is enjoying each day as it comes to you. The past is gone and tomorrow isn't here yet. All you have is right now, today. So, do what you can and let the rest take care of itself.

Sometimes just find some time to just sit and look at your bike like a blank canvas. Then see what comes you and start "painting", metaphorically speaking. *smile* I prefer to "paint" with a screwdriver and a wrench.

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Matching bolts, what a concept. You will only need two screwdrivers to get your fairings off with the right bolts. What fun is that?
Two screwdrivers? I ordered a set of replacement bolts and only need an Allen Key
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Huh. Cool.

I need a Phillips and an Allen wrench. Does that mean some of mine were replaced?
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 05:25 PM   #32
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Huh. Cool.

I need a Phillips and an Allen wrench. Does that mean some of mine were replaced?
You'd have to check the manual to know for sure. Mine aren't OEM
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 06:15 PM   #33
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Huh. Cool.

I need a Phillips and an Allen wrench. Does that mean some of mine were replaced?
Yes. They should all be allens.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 06:53 PM   #34
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Old October 4th, 2016, 09:51 AM   #35
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Yes. They should all be allens.
The Pregen's use a mix of philips and allens. Sadly, most faired bikes seem to have a mix of screw sizes and types. My Triumph uses philips, allens, and hex sockets.

Picture of one of the OEM fairing screws for the lower cowling from 1988 to 2007:http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...2009-1654.html
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The Pregen's use a mix of philips and allens. Sadly, most faired bikes seem to have a mix of screw sizes and types. My Triumph uses philips, allens, and hex sockets.

Picture of one of the OEM fairing screws for the lower cowling from 1988 to 2007:http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...2009-1654.html
Then the ones on my wifes old Pre Gen were replaced lol. They were all Allens, even the lowers.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 04:44 AM   #37
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Looks like it might be a stock new gen (2008-2012) exhaust. Really hard to tell from that photo but look at the picture I included and if the end looks like the picture it is a new gen stock can. The "Pre-Gen's" like your bike came with dual exhaust and they may have changed to this to have a single exhaust solution for cheap. I could be totally wrong since it is really hard to see detail in the picture you supplied but I think I can see the mounting point for the heat shield under the foot peg.
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