Speed/RPM - Page 2

LNasty · March 9th, 2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

Your are welcome

Yes, please, check the play and lube the cable and report back to see if that solves the rpm's issue.

Best !

Cleaned and lubed the cable, play in lever was way too much, after adjusting to barely any pay, just 2 mm the bike ran about 500k less in 6th at 60mph. ran at 8500rpm @ 60mph. Did some more adjusting to give a little less play when I got home, will see on Monday if that brings me closer to 8k @60

Motofool · March 9th, 2013, 09:00 PM

Cool; we are progressing !

LNasty · March 9th, 2013, 09:55 PM

Indeed! I hate having to take the bike to a shop, rarely have to take my car because I have taught myself how to do pretty much everything. With the bike I am hesitant because it all seems like foreign territory to me. If it wasn't for this forum I wouldn't be able to do half the stuff I have done.

LNasty · March 10th, 2013, 01:16 PM

Still not sure if the play is correct, wish I had someone to show me it a video showing correct amount of play, need to see what it feels like. Should you be able to wiggle the lever down by the case cover?

Motofool · March 10th, 2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LNasty

........Should you be able to wiggle the lever down by the case cover?

Yes, a little bit.

You want zero cable force over that lever during normal operation.

This is one of those cases where a little play don't hurt anything.

Dirty Mike · March 12th, 2013, 07:05 PM

I'm still not used to cruising at such a high RPM, coming from my BMW which in 5th does 85 and about 4800 RPM. Kinda weird having my bike do 60 about 7500. I feel like I'm going to break it! But... then it revs above 10k and sounds like sex

LNasty · March 12th, 2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Mike

I'm still not used to cruising at such a high RPM, coming from my BMW which in 5th does 85 and about 4800 RPM. Kinda weird having my bike do 60 about 7500. I feel like I'm going to break it! But... then it revs above 10k and sounds like sex

What sprocket setting do you have? I also have a 2012 250 with stock setup 14/45. And I am running 8800k rpm at 60 mph. Trying to figure out what is wrong with bike

sLick415 · March 12th, 2013, 09:25 PM

Im 7k rpm @ 60mph with stock sprockets.

LNasty · March 12th, 2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sLick415

Im 7k rpm @ 60mph with stock sprockets.

Wtf is wrong with my ****, dealer says its fine, but 8800 is way to high. Clutch is fine. Bike only has 3k miles

cbinker · March 16th, 2013, 11:10 AM

Elevation may play a role?

LNasty · March 16th, 2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

Elevation may play a role?

I'm at sea level, down by the gulf

Coolbpf · March 16th, 2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoleH28

I am wondering if this seems right. I have a 2011 250R and when I am in 6th gear traveling at 40mph is it right for the bike to be at about 6RMP's? It seems high to me. I obviously know that I can't shift again. When I get to highway speeds of 55+ I'm assuming I'll be running at 8 or 9RPM's...is this normal? Do these bikes run high like that? I'm new to this so I just want to make sure....

In 6th gear (stock everything) I run 9k at 70 indicated... ad just under 8 at 60 indicated... That's pretty normal... I'm not sure why you're going 40 in 6th gear, I'd be in 5th personally, but I think my bike runs just under 6 at 40 ind when I'm downshifting and such...

cbinker · March 17th, 2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LNasty

I'm at sea level, down by the gulf

ok, you should be close to max potential for the bike then.

LNasty · March 17th, 2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cbinker

ok, you should be close to max potential for the bike then.

So my rpm being at 9000 at 60 mph is normal for down here?

YunMing · March 18th, 2013, 12:09 AM

Just ride it hard like the dirty bike she is.

When I rode my ninja 250 I would ride it to around 12k rpm if I wanted to go quick then I shifted. Otherwise I would cruise around 8 - 9k rpm. I think 9000 rpm at 60mph doesn't sound right but it still has up to 12k which is where it really peaks for power.

cbinker · March 18th, 2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LNasty

So my rpm being at 9000 at 60 mph is normal for down here?

i dont have time now, but a few years back i made a post on another forum about maxing out each gear.

LNasty · April 2nd, 2013, 03:23 PM

Took bike to a different dealer they were able to see what I am dealing with with the rpm issue. Kawasaki is having them replace the tach first to see if that does anything, if not then they will move to the next thing, which will prob be cdi. Suck though cause now I won't have my Nike for at least a week, only been three days and I am having major withdraws

choneofakind · April 2nd, 2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LNasty

Suck though cause now I won't have my Nike for at least a week, only been three days and I am having major withdraws

Try living in OH and going to school almost 3 hours away from home...

LNasty · April 6th, 2013, 12:32 PM

Just called dealer for an update on my bike being fixed, said that part is going to take a while to come in and to come pick bike up if I want so that I have something to ride. well ****, at least i will be riding again, but now i will have to bring it all the way back over to dealer just so they can put the new tach in, which I already know won't solve the problem, then I will have to wait for another ungodly amount of time before next part (likely a new CDI) comes in. What takes so long for Kawasaki to send the dealer a bloody part? Is it coming from Japan? Do they have to decontaminate the part first from all the radiation? WTF!

PArider · July 29th, 2013, 08:07 PM

Howdy. Any update? Did you get this eventually figured out?

I'm asking because I just purchased a 2012 ninja 250 with 800 miles. After break in I took it on the interstate.

In sixth gear:

60mph is 9,000
70mph is 10,500
80mph is 12,000

Yes, 80 is just under redline!

That seems too high and I can't figure out why. Sprockets are stock, I'm pretty sure.

Motofool · July 30th, 2013, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PArider

Howdy. Any update? Did you get this eventually figured out?

I'm asking because I just purchased a 2012 ninja 250 with 800 miles. After break in I took it on the interstate.

In sixth gear:

60mph is 9,000
70mph is 10,500
80mph is 12,000

Yes, 80 is just under redline!

That seems too high and I can't figure out why. Sprockets are stock, I'm pretty sure.

Your clutch is slipping and heating up the oil too much.

PArider · July 30th, 2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

Your clutch is slipping and heating up the oil too much.

If that were the case, the revs would be a bit unstable and oscillate up and down right? I presume it would show up on the tach?

This is totally stable at those numbers, like clockwork, so I don't think that my clutch is slipping. 12k is 80mph, and doesn't go above or below as long as I hold 80mph.

Motofool · July 30th, 2013, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PArider

If that were the case, the revs would be a bit unstable and oscillate up and down right? I presume it would show up on the tach?

This is totally stable at those numbers, like clockwork, so I don't think that my clutch is slipping. 12k is 80mph, and doesn't go above or below as long as I hold 80mph.

Not necessarily, it could slip in balance.
If that is the case, revs should go up respect to the speed of the bike for conditions of high torque demand, such like hill sand strong wing.

The difference in noise and vibration between 10K and 12K is evident, but you may not be familiar with either one yet.

It has been discussed here that some bikes have defective CDI that can produce a false reading of rpms'.
The tachometer works based on number of sparks per second that the CDI feels and convert into the input for the tachometer.

Please see post #8 above, as well as this thread:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...ght=tachometer

March 9th, 2013, 09:00 PM	#42
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March 12th, 2013, 07:05 PM	#46
Dirty Mike ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Alabama Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 17	I'm still not used to cruising at such a high RPM, coming from my BMW which in 5th does 85 and about 4800 RPM. Kinda weird having my bike do 60 about 7500. I feel like I'm going to break it! But... then it revs above 10k and sounds like sex __________________________________________________ Loving my bike, but i still love cars!

March 16th, 2013, 11:10 AM	#50
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	Elevation may play a role? __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

July 29th, 2013, 08:07 PM	#60
PArider ninjette.org newbie Name: Gordon Location: Philadelphia Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2001 Suzuki GZ250 Posts: 6	Any update? Howdy. Any update? Did you get this eventually figured out? I'm asking because I just purchased a 2012 ninja 250 with 800 miles. After break in I took it on the interstate. In sixth gear: 60mph is 9,000 70mph is 10,500 80mph is 12,000 Yes, 80 is just under redline! That seems too high and I can't figure out why. Sprockets are stock, I'm pretty sure.

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March 9th, 2013, 09:55 PM	#43
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	Indeed! I hate having to take the bike to a shop, rarely have to take my car because I have taught myself how to do pretty much everything. With the bike I am hesitant because it all seems like foreign territory to me. If it wasn't for this forum I wouldn't be able to do half the stuff I have done.

March 10th, 2013, 01:16 PM	#44
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	Still not sure if the play is correct, wish I had someone to show me it a video showing correct amount of play, need to see what it feels like. Should you be able to wiggle the lever down by the case cover?

March 12th, 2013, 09:25 PM	#48
sLick415 ninjette.org guru Name: Danny Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 263	Im 7k rpm @ 60mph with stock sprockets.

March 18th, 2013, 12:09 AM	#55
YunMing ninjette.org member Name: Alexander Location: Santa Rosa Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): (Sold) 2007 Red Ninja 250r, 2003 Cbr 600 F4i Posts: 137	Just ride it hard like the dirty bike she is. When I rode my ninja 250 I would ride it to around 12k rpm if I wanted to go quick then I shifted. Otherwise I would cruise around 8 - 9k rpm. I think 9000 rpm at 60mph doesn't sound right but it still has up to 12k which is where it really peaks for power.

April 2nd, 2013, 03:23 PM	#57
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	Took bike to a different dealer they were able to see what I am dealing with with the rpm issue. Kawasaki is having them replace the tach first to see if that does anything, if not then they will move to the next thing, which will prob be cdi. Suck though cause now I won't have my Nike for at least a week, only been three days and I am having major withdraws

April 6th, 2013, 12:32 PM	#59
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	Just called dealer for an update on my bike being fixed, said that part is going to take a while to come in and to come pick bike up if I want so that I have something to ride. well ****, at least i will be riding again, but now i will have to bring it all the way back over to dealer just so they can put the new tach in, which I already know won't solve the problem, then I will have to wait for another ungodly amount of time before next part (likely a new CDI) comes in. What takes so long for Kawasaki to send the dealer a bloody part? Is it coming from Japan? Do they have to decontaminate the part first from all the radiation? WTF!