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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:12 PM   #1
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Let's lift my Ninja!

I need more ground clearance. I keep sacking out the stock suspension and smashing the underside of my bike on my favorite spirited run roads. What's the best way to go about getting my bike some ground clearance? Seat height is not an issue and I'd prefer a taller seat height. I want the most suspension travel and ground clearance.

Can anyone change the title to say lift? I'm retarded.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #2
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I'm not sure if it's additional ground clearance, or a reworked / stiffened suspension front & rear to keep it from bottoming out?
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #3
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Both! Lol. The current suspension blows through its stroke like it isn't even there and I can count the seconds waiting for it to rebound. I rode a new-gen for a day and it wasn't vastly superior to my pre-gen. Only marginally. I thought that bike blew through its stroke not as easily as the pre-gen, but had a harder hit at the end of its stroke.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #4
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Id like to lift mine too...at 6'3" Im flatfooted with my knees bent at a stop sign.
All the dogbones I've seen are stock and lower...surely there are some that will raise it up. Personally...I could go for an inch of lift over stock.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #5
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Id like to lift mine too...at 6'3" Im flatfooted with my knees bent at a stop sign.
All the dogbones I've seen are stock and lower...surely there are some that will raise it up. Personally...I could go for an inch of lift over stock.
You must have missed THIS thread.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #6
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Get a newgen shock. It's slightly longer. It's also slightly better sprung for the bike and has adjustable preload.

The next thing I did was contact soupy's for some of their adjustable links in a shorter length so I can raise the tail instead of lowering it. End result is a much higher seat, like 2.5-3 inches raise on the tail (I haven't measured it though honestly) and much quicker turn-in.

Looks pretty slick too. Not how much space you can see between the wheel and fender here:





I was within a 1/4" of the edge of my rear tire at the track, and there were no issues with hard parts dragging at all. I had a long way to go lean-wise.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:33 PM   #7
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Looks good!

Now I should be able to swap and bolt on new-gen triple trees, forks, swing arm, brakes ,wheels and whatever other pieces I need over to my bike, right? A 17" wheel with larger rubber should get me off the ground even more! Plus better rubber selection and better suspension. I've always wanted to go this route with my pre-gen.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:40 PM   #8
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That should all swap over, yes.

17" rims have smaller profile tires. They're the same OD as pregen tires.

If you're looking to do the suspension conversion, there's a whole list of parts you'll need. Check out this post to see it done:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...3&postcount=19

If you do that conversion, you'll be able to use Rexbo's shortened dogbones to raise the tail as well.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #9
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Time to pony up stupid amounts of cash for my $500 ride, lol. I make terrible decisions with my money. YOLO right?
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #10
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Definitely yolo

Either commit to spending on it, or saving on it. Don't do either half-way.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:39 PM   #11
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Just get one of these...



I got one a couple days ago and it is sweeet! It's nice having a bike with a modern suspension setup.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:49 PM   #12
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easy fix- do wheelies while you turn.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:59 PM   #13
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Just get one of these...



I got one a couple days ago and it is sweeet! It's nice having a bike with a modern suspension setup.
I've already got one of these.



It gets the job done juuuuust fine. Probably has better suspension than whatever that thing is.

However, on that bike, I can't do this...



Which is what I'm tryina' do.

(Well, I can do a mean wheelie on my dirt toy, I was implying the road racing/sport riding part)

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easy fix- do wheelies while you turn.
I already woulda been doing that if the 250 had the engine for it!
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I remember one of the first few times I rode kevin's 636 with his insane stunter sprockets, I give it the go coming out of a steep corner and the god damn nose goes up while I'm half way over. God damn @Kevin2109
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Old September 20th, 2012, 07:05 PM   #15
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I remember one of the first few times I rode kevin's 636 with his insane stunter sprockets, I give it the go coming out of a steep corner and the god damn nose goes up while I'm half way over. God damn @Kevin2109
Stunter sprockets -_- Hows being ignorant working out for you alex?

-1+2 is the most common set up on 600's, and not for wheelies, for the acceleration behind it
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Old September 20th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #16
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I remember one of the first few times I rode kevin's 636 with his insane stunter sprockets, I give it the go coming out of a steep corner and the god damn nose goes up while I'm half way over. God damn @Kevin2109
That happens on my dirt toy if you rap on the throttle a bit too much. It's fun! I usually like to per 'er on one wheel through the whoops.
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Definitely fun. But when you aren't trying to do it, it can be quite the surprise
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No surprises on the YZ400F. Its powerband has a smooth and predictable nature compared to a 2-stroke bike. You're in complete control the whole time. Going WFO from a low setting is usually guaranteed for some one wheel action though.
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Question... Where did you get the inner fender & chain guard at?
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It's for the Yamaha Byson, a non-US model. https://bennythegreat.wordpress.com/...-di-ninja-250/
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