2012 z1000

nickjpass · October 10th, 2011, 09:35 AM

Looks nice!!!

Love the design of the headlight!

Only comes in one color!!??!??!

nit8690 · October 10th, 2011, 09:40 AM

It looks nice but I think I would take the Ninja 1000 Kawasaki's sport touring bike. The street fighter look is cool but Idk how it fair for comfort and riding. the Ninja 1000 has the big windscreen and is made for long trips they say.

caps · October 10th, 2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nit8690

It looks nice but I think I would take the Ninja 1000 Kawasaki's sport touring bike. The street fighter look is cool but Idk how it fair for comfort and riding. the Ninja 1000 has the big windscreen and is made for long trips they say.

just fyi, its the same bike with fairings and a windscreen

Alex · October 10th, 2011, 03:52 PM

...and a larger gas tank, slightly different gearing, different bars, suspension mods, and a few other tweaks. The expensive hard parts (engine/drivetrain, frame, etc.) are shared.

nickjpass · October 10th, 2011, 03:54 PM

Which one's faster off the line?

Alex · October 10th, 2011, 03:56 PM

The faired version is slightly heavier and has taller gearing, so if all factors are equal, the naked bike should be somewhat faster off of the line. But in all likelihood, the differences might be a tenth or two at most in the quarter mile.

Havok · October 10th, 2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

...and a larger gas tank, slightly different gearing, different bars, suspension mods, and a few other tweaks. The expensive hard parts (engine/drivetrain, frame, etc.) are shared.

Tuning is different as well. the z1000 is tuned like a super sport, It is made for power and speed. The ninja 1000 is tuned more for street/touring.

Alex · October 10th, 2011, 04:11 PM

Those are the markets the two bikes are chasing, but all of the reviews are saying that the engines are essentially identical, with two exceptions: an intake resonator on the Z1000 that is removed on the Ninja 1000 for a bit less intake noise, and a speed-limiter that is in place on the Z1000, but removed from the Ninja 1000 due to its improved aerodynamics. It's certainly possible that there are minor tweaks with the ECU, but if so, the results don't show up in any real-world reviews or dyno test.

I like 'em both, but given the choice would always go for the faired bike.

Reddoak · October 10th, 2011, 06:42 PM

And I would always go with the naked one. Tastes vary, but with a good deal, I would take a Ninja 1000 with no reservations. Both very nice.

But naked bikes rock. Unless you're going 90 MPH. Then faired bikes rock...

nit8690 · October 12th, 2011, 08:59 PM

again I like the ninja 1000 the riding position was really good. it worked for me. felt really comfortable. it was not like a sport bike. more like a dual sport ride

Lil_Green_Demon · October 13th, 2011, 01:30 AM

The Z1000 is a beautiful bike, but given the choice, I'd pick the Ninja 1000 over it any day of the week. I'm not against owning a naked bike, though.

Honestly, given the choice, I'd avoid both. I don't think I'll ever own anything over 600cc, unless I can nab a Ducati 848 Evo someday.

LoneRonin · October 13th, 2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Those are the markets the two bikes are chasing, but all of the reviews are saying that the engines are essentially identical, with two exceptions: an intake resonator on the Z1000 that is removed on the Ninja 1000 for a bit less intake noise, and a speed-limiter that is in place on the Z1000, but removed from the Ninja 1000 due to its improved aerodynamics. It's certainly possible that there are minor tweaks with the ECU, but if so, the results don't show up in any real-world reviews or dyno test.

I like 'em both, but given the choice would always go for the faired bike.

I think you got it the other way around on the speed limiter. From what I read its on the Ninja 1000 but not the Z1000 because being naked its essentially limited because of aerodynamics. You can only go so fast on that thing before you pull your arms and neck outta their sockets...

nit8690 · October 13th, 2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil_Green_Demon

The Z1000 is a beautiful bike, but given the choice, I'd pick the Ninja 1000 over it any day of the week. I'm not against owning a naked bike, though.

Honestly, given the choice, I'd avoid both. I don't think I'll ever own anything over 600cc, unless I can nab a Ducati 848 Evo someday.

lol well they detuned the 1000 its power is similar to a 600cc. I dont know what the z1000 has for power but you know for me its not about speed its getting to and from where I wanna go safely and at my speed. oh and comfort lol

LoneRonin · October 13th, 2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nit8690

lol well they detuned the 1000 its power is similar to a 600cc. I dont know what the z1000 has for power but you know for me its not about speed its getting to and from where I wanna go safely and at my speed. oh and comfort lol

again, its detuned if you compare to SS. Top end performance/top speed may be similar to a 600 but everywhere in the low to midrange the 1000 has 60% more torque...

On the street that is what matters, daily driving on a SS isn't sitting at the top 30% of the powerband... For what its made to do the Ninja 1000 will eat the 600cc SS.

Alex · October 13th, 2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneRonin

I think you got it the other way around on the speed limiter. From what I read its on the Ninja 1000 but not the Z1000 because being naked its essentially limited because of aerodynamics. You can only go so fast on that thing before you pull your arms and neck outta their sockets...

Yep, you're right; it's the Ninja 1000 with the limiter, not the Z1000.

I had read it just a little too quickly the first time...

October 10th, 2011, 09:35 AM	#1
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	2012 z1000 Looks nice!!! Love the design of the headlight! Only comes in one color!!??!??! __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 09:40 AM	#2
nit8690 ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Oregon Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r soon Posts: 75	It looks nice but I think I would take the Ninja 1000 Kawasaki's sport touring bike. The street fighter look is cool but Idk how it fair for comfort and riding. the Ninja 1000 has the big windscreen and is made for long trips they say. __________________________________________________ Getting a ninja 250 asap

October 10th, 2011, 03:52 PM	#4
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	...and a larger gas tank, slightly different gearing, different bars, suspension mods, and a few other tweaks. The expensive hard parts (engine/drivetrain, frame, etc.) are shared. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

October 10th, 2011, 03:54 PM	#5
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Which one's faster off the line? __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 03:56 PM	#6
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The faired version is slightly heavier and has taller gearing, so if all factors are equal, the naked bike should be somewhat faster off of the line. But in all likelihood, the differences might be a tenth or two at most in the quarter mile. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

October 10th, 2011, 04:11 PM	#8
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Those are the markets the two bikes are chasing, but all of the reviews are saying that the engines are essentially identical, with two exceptions: an intake resonator on the Z1000 that is removed on the Ninja 1000 for a bit less intake noise, and a speed-limiter that is in place on the Z1000, but removed from the Ninja 1000 due to its improved aerodynamics. It's certainly possible that there are minor tweaks with the ECU, but if so, the results don't show up in any real-world reviews or dyno test. I like 'em both, but given the choice would always go for the faired bike. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

October 10th, 2011, 06:42 PM	#9
Reddoak ninjette.org guru Name: Bill Location: Orlando Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r - Traded for 2009 ER-6N Posts: 424	And I would always go with the naked one. Tastes vary, but with a good deal, I would take a Ninja 1000 with no reservations. Both very nice. But naked bikes rock. Unless you're going 90 MPH. Then faired bikes rock... __________________________________________________

October 12th, 2011, 08:59 PM	#10
nit8690 ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Oregon Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r soon Posts: 75	again I like the ninja 1000 the riding position was really good. it worked for me. felt really comfortable. it was not like a sport bike. more like a dual sport ride __________________________________________________ Getting a ninja 250 asap

October 13th, 2011, 01:30 AM	#11
Lil_Green_Demon Winging It In Life Name: Umar Location: SoCal Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R; 2011 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	The Z1000 is a beautiful bike, but given the choice, I'd pick the Ninja 1000 over it any day of the week. I'm not against owning a naked bike, though. Honestly, given the choice, I'd avoid both. I don't think I'll ever own anything over 600cc, unless I can nab a Ducati 848 Evo someday. __________________________________________________ 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (Bought - Apr 22, 2011; Sold - Feb 17, 2015) 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (Bought - May 01, 2017; Current)

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