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Old September 28th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #1
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"factory spec" chain brand?

anybody have experience with them, good or bad?
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If you're curious, it's for a 1984 gpz900r. Buying new JT sprockets to go with it.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 10:30 AM   #2
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No experience with them. But have never thought it a great idea to cheap out on chains or sprockets. The good stuff only costs a little more, and it guarantees you won't have to worry about it for a very long time if they are taken care of.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #3
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If you buy it, try safety-wiring the clip type master link.

Just Google "factory spec chains" and you will see some reviews.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 12:55 PM   #4
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I would check into D.I.D chains. Also I have sunstar sprockets on my ninja right now, made in Japan and higher quality than the stockers which I believe are JT
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Old September 28th, 2013, 05:44 PM   #5
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Murphskits.com has stock brand rk chains. For a good price.
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Old September 29th, 2013, 02:25 AM   #6
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Aussie delivered bikes have DID chains standard
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I can't quite afford the better chains, and I'm not going to be running this one for more than 5-10k miles before I replace sprockets and chain with top grade.
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I can't quite afford the better chains, and I'm not going to be running this one for more than 5-10k miles before I replace sprockets and chain with top grade.
If is a temporary thing, you could try a regular chain (no O-rings); only that you would need to keep lubricating it frequently (those have no internal built-in grease).
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The GPZ900r was a rippin bike. Use quality parts or regret it. I rode one when they were new and the bike was a rocket. You don't want something to lock up or let go at speed.
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Old September 29th, 2013, 08:20 PM   #10
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I can't quite afford the better chains, and I'm not going to be running this one for more than 5-10k miles before I replace sprockets and chain with top grade.
Why not spend the 250 bucks or so now, rather than spending 150 now on cheap stuff and then the 250 again later on??
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The GPZ900r was a rippin bike. Use quality parts or regret it. I rode one when they were new and the bike was a rocket. You don't want something to lock up or let go at speed.
I'm aware. Being that it's always rainy around here, I rarely get a chance to open it up anyway.

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Why not spend the 250 bucks or so now, rather than spending 150 now on cheap stuff and then the 250 again later on??
If I had 250 bucks I would buy a brand-new set of sprockets and a nice chain. As it is, I have exactly 43.76 to spend.
I would LIKE to get a nice chain, just like I would LIKE to do a whole lot of other things to my bike. new windshield. New brake lines. GAS.
I do not have money.
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If is a temporary thing, you could try a regular chain (no O-rings); only that you would need to keep lubricating it frequently (those have no internal built-in grease).
from what i've heard, non o-ring chains are very maintenance-intensive. I'm afraid that neglect would put it in terrible condition and would get me killed faster than a cheap o-ring chain would.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:07 AM   #13
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from what i've heard, non o-ring chains are very maintenance-intensive. I'm afraid that neglect would put it in terrible condition and would get me killed faster than a cheap o-ring chain would.
Trufax. I wanted to kill my ****ing non o-ring chain while I had it. It was a complete piece of **** even with constant cleaning and lubing. I ended up replacing it at around 4k mi.

How badly do you need to replace the chain? Any possible chance of keeping it until you have the cash for something nicer?
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Trufax. I wanted to kill my ****ing non o-ring chain while I had it. It was a complete piece of **** even with constant cleaning and lubing. I ended up replacing it at around 4k mi.

How badly do you need to replace the chain? Any possible chance of keeping it until you have the cash for something nicer?
I mean... if you count dragging on the centerstand pretty bad, then yeah... I need a new chain badly.

edit: it is literally dragging on the centerstand and making a groove in the metal.
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I mean... if you count dragging on the centerstand pretty bad, then yeah... I need a new chain badly.

edit: it is literally dragging on the centerstand and making a groove in the metal.
And you're at the limit of adjustment?
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And you're at the limit of adjustment?
all the way out.
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You could try just getting a cheap-ass chain, don't change the sprockets, and then just change everything out a little sooner.
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that's what I'm thinking. cheap chain, binge on the good stuff after I get some cash in my pocket
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Old September 30th, 2013, 06:06 AM   #19
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from what i've heard, non o-ring chains are very maintenance-intensive. I'm afraid that neglect would put it in terrible condition and would get me killed faster than a cheap o-ring chain would.
We didn't have O-ring chains for many years of the least century and we were riding like crazy.
Many racers today use non-sealed chains, just to avoid the extra drag of the seals.
Another advantage is that clip type master links never come loose, like so frequently happens with O-ringed chains.
The clip makes removal, cleaning and lubrication very easy.

I lubricate my O-rings as frequently as I used to lubricate my non-sealed chains: every fuel refill.
You must keep those O-rings lubricated and flexible and protected from UV radiation as much as we had to keep our rollers lubed years ago.

Your chain is eating itself internally and stretching each link pitch beyond specs and destroying the sprockets.
The problem with a cheap O-ring chain is not the metal but the neoprene of the rings.
That is probably what has happened to your current chain; once the seals fail and internal built-in lubrication escapes and water and grime leak in, metal against metal friction and wear starts destroying the chain.

You can learn more about chains here:
http://www.dansmc.com/rearchain.htm

http://www.sportrider.com/suspension...in_adjustment/

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0...an_your_chain/
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You could try just getting a cheap-ass chain, don't change the sprockets, and then just change everything out a little sooner.
May not work. If he's out of room for further adjustment then it could be more than just chain wear. When it happened to me it was because rollers failed in my new chain and it was taking bites out of the space between sprocket teeth. Even before it was obvious, I realized that almost all of the slack was from sprocket wear.
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