Crazy Squid Encounter

[Lvr]

We had some unexpected good weather this afternoon in upstate NY, so I took my bike out for quick ride this afternoon to enjoy it.
I was on the local highway (55mph limit) turning right onto a side road to get home. I had my signal on, and was on the far right side of the lane, when this dude on a sportbike comes flying by on my RIGHT, in the middle of the shoulder. This guy, no exaggeration, had to have been doing at least 150mph. he went flying off and was out of sight in literally less than 2 seconds.
I don't care about the speeding, but I don't understand why he passed on the right. There was more room on my left...

But the best part...

As I turned to the right off the highway, I saw that on the opposite side of the road driving towards me were TWO state police cars! Completely ignored the guy on the bike!

So my theory is that since there were two of them, they were probably going somewhere and that's why they ignored him. But my brother suggested that maybe they just figured they couldn't catch him. What do you guys think? I was pretty surprised that they did nothing.

[utahninja]

Maybe they already radioed ahead to have them stopped. I am sure they realized they weren't going to catch them.

[Alex]

When a bike going well over triple digits passes LEO's going the other way, the only things catching up to it are the Motorola and/or Darwin. A rookie cop might flip the lights on, but what else can they really do at that point.

[Racer x]

The reason for passing on the right was he had to make a split second decision . There was no way to tell what you where going to do .at 150 you where sitting still . And he was dealing with you about 3 seconds before you where passes.
Darwin will catch him. Or like in my case ...Old age.

[slolane]

Many locations have a "no chase" policy for bikes, agree or not many times officers crashed into others trying to chase someone down for speeding. The reality is if your sitting, the bike goes by at 150 or whatever by the time you put your car into gear and pull out it's too late... so policy is to just radio out just in case your side partner gets lucky the bike rolls up on him.

[Mizono]

Apparently here in dallas/ft.worth The LEO are taking pictures of the bikes and riders when they pull them over. So later on they have record of them. That way later if they see the same rider they can get them.

[CC Cowboy]

That guy had amazing skills!

[Lvr]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

That guy had amazing skills!

Yep, as soon as I got over the shock of a near instant death experience, that was the first thing I thought.

Racer x, the thig that was weird is that I had my turn signal on and was so obviously moving over. There was probably twice as much space on my left, and I was obviously about to make a right onto the only side street there.

It's a good point about the cops. I didn't really think it through lol. Of course they wouldn't have been able to catch him.

It irritated me to see a motorcyclist behave so carelessly towards another rider. I expect to be ignored and put in danger by cagers, but I almost take it personally when another rider does something like that. Oh well. Now I know to check the shoulder too before turning lol.

[Lvr]

Originally Posted by Alex

When a bike going well over triple digits passes LEO's going the other way, the only things catching up to it are the Motorola and/or Darwin. A rookie cop might flip the lights on, but what else can they really do at that point.

The motorola?

[k-os]

Originally Posted by Lvr

The motorola?

Their radio, to another officer.

[sombo]

Police cars are limited at 135mph. They also have policies of no chase past a certain speed. Therefore even if they were going in the same direction and he passed them at 150+ they would have done nothing more then radio it in and go on with their day.

[slolane]

Originally Posted by sombo

Police cars are limited at 135mph. They also have policies of no chase past a certain speed. Therefore even if they were going in the same direction and he passed them at 150+ they would have done nothing more then radio it in and go on with their day.

I can only speak to MD, not FL but there are different limit cars based on what beat you work and what unit your assigned to (patrol, traffic, etc). Also, the chase policy has many caveats written in... Is the only offense speeding or did they just commit a felony? What kind of felony... theft over $500 or a murder, bank robbery, etc. It also depends on who is driving... a regular patrol officer, Cpl or a Sgt or LT, the SGT and LT have A LOT more authorization than lower ranking Officers or Cpl and can decide what is appropriate for the conditions... even if the bike is just speeding they can follow without a chase if little/no other traffic is on the road.

Also, following along behind a bike at "speed" without running code is just following, not a chase so don't be surprised if an officer continues.

[ricochet08]

Originally Posted by Mizono

Apparently here in dallas/ft.worth The LEO are taking pictures of the bikes and riders when they pull them over. So later on they have record of them. That way later if they see the same rider they can get them.

I don't like that...

[Lvr]

Originally Posted by ricochet08

I don't like that...

yeesh. me neither. Not that I've been pulled over on my bike or anything, but still.

[aldenso]

Cops just have no chance of catching bikes, and I'm pretty sure they realize they will put many lives into danger by chasing after one than it's worth. Both these things combined would probably make most cops think twice before trying to pursue.

Not to hijack this thread, but today I was doing 120 in a 60 (km/h) and didn't see two cops radaring. They didn't even flinch when I finally noticed them at the last second (although I wondered if maybe they didn't get a reading off of my bike because it's a small target. Don't they have to shoot the radars at a flat spot, which the ninja doesn't have?)

Either way that squid has some skillz.

[Alex]

Modern radar units pick up moving motorcycles just fine. Glad you got lucky this time.

[slolane]

I have witnessed many bikes getting pulled, most of the time the officer will follow until the bike tries to take an exit too hot, since some motorcyclists cannot corner all that well the following usually stops there by either the bike stopping and giving up, crashing or making the turn.

[Havok]

Originally Posted by Lvr

Yep, as soon as I got over the shock of a near instant death experience, that was the first thing I thought.

Racer x, the thig that was weird is that I had my turn signal on and was so obviously moving over. There was probably twice as much space on my left, and I was obviously about to make a right onto the only side street there.

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At 150 by the time you put your signal on he had committed to passing you on the right. At those speeds everything you do has to be committed to well in advance of getting there. I dont think i have ever gone 150 but i have gone over 135 and i can tell you its hard! You have to make your decisions quite a bit in advance, just shifting the bike to lean enough for a swerve has to be done so far in advance its crazy. I bet he **** his pants as he saw your blinker come on. I see that stuff here all the time on the freeways and unfortunately if you listen to traffic reports at 4 am (i start work early lol) you can hear how most of them end up.

I think riding like that takes a mix of insanity, stupidity and huge ass balls of steel.

[sombo]

Originally Posted by slolane

I can only speak to MD, not FL but there are different limit cars based on what beat you work and what unit your assigned to (patrol, traffic, etc). Also, the chase policy has many caveats written in... Is the only offense speeding or did they just commit a felony? What kind of felony... theft over $500 or a murder, bank robbery, etc. It also depends on who is driving... a regular patrol officer, Cpl or a Sgt or LT, the SGT and LT have A LOT more authorization than lower ranking Officers or Cpl and can decide what is appropriate for the conditions... even if the bike is just speeding they can follow without a chase if little/no other traffic is on the road.

Also, following along behind a bike at "speed" without running code is just following, not a chase so don't be surprised if an officer continues.

Standard police cars are all governed at 135mph. Some places are allowed to have special cars (Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, etc) that can go as high as 165mph (Texas comes to mind). But even then they put limiters on them as well and still have regulations against high speed chasing. The ruling they go by is that once it goes past a certain speed they are to back off and radio ahead. If the crime is bad enough they will call in road blocks and even a helicopter. When they do that the drivers are to back off to a safer speed and continue following the last known direction or the directions of aircraft following the vehicle. The reason being for safety of both police and any innocents.

On more open roads they can go as high as Corvettes limited to about 165mph with specific drivers and only if the case warrants such. But just a squid speeding down the road at 150+mph they won't do more then call it in and put a paramedic crew on standby.

[slolane]

If that is the case then the agency I worked for didn't have all "standard" cars for patrol. Like I said above there are other units that have different vehicles and agreed, they are all limited. I'm aware with the tactics for patrol and public safety involved. When my side partners or I witnessed bikes we would sometimes pursue based on the situation/conditions. Our SOP didn't include only calling it in and we didn't notify EMS unless needed, they were far too busy for that. Again, I'm only speaking to my real world experience here in MD. I'm sure things are different in other states as many friends of mine worked in neighboring counties that were run very differently. I commented on the above posting so others would not assume that since they did a fly-bye they were safe from that officer even let alone the infamous radio, as they say... "you can't outrun the radio".

[greg737]

That guy had amazing skills!

Those were skilz not skills.

[Lvr]

Originally Posted by greg737

Those were skilz not skills.

No kidding haha. It take a lot of talent to make a supersport go really fast in a straight line, for sure. I hope I can be that good one day.

[Xoulrath]

Originally Posted by Lvr

No kidding haha. It take a lot of talent to make a supersport go really fast in a straight line, for sure. I hope I can be that good one day.

ZOMG!!! Don't you know you have to lean forward when the front end starts to get light! M@D l337 $k!LLz that guy got!

Seriously though, glad you're alright. Freakin' asshats like that guy make us all look bad.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Lvr

I had my signal on, and was on the far right side of the lane, when this dude on a sportbike comes flying by on my RIGHT, in the middle of the shoulder. This guy, no exaggeration, had to have been doing at least 150mph. he went flying off and was out of sight in literally less than 2 seconds.
I don't care about the speeding, but I don't understand why he passed on the right. There was more room on my left...

But the best part...he was on a Suzuki GSXR1000

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At that speed he was already commited to the inside line. Besides, most people (you) usually stand the big up (causing a wider line) when spooked so had he tried going around the outside, you could have ran him too wide to make the turn. Also, if he was too hot for the corner he could had bounced off you and still made the turn. Good for him, bad for you.

[Sailariel]

Here the rule is, "Don't bother" Our LEOs feel that in a short time people like that will run out of chances. Speeds like that are fine on a track-on the road, forget it. Too much can happen.

[eddiekay]

I think those 2 upstate cops ...assuming they even saw the guy, showed good judgement.

[Davis937]

It irritated me to see a motorcyclist behave so carelessly towards another rider. I expect to be ignored and put in danger by cagers, but I almost take it personally when another rider does something like that. Oh well. Now I know to check the shoulder too before turning lol.

Yeah, I definitely hear you. I too would have taken it "personally." There's definitely a brotherhood (and sisterhood) of riders out there. If we can't trust (and depend upon) our fellow riders, what are we left with ... yeah, a cager we can understand... but ... not a fellow biker!

[kamikaze]

Originally Posted by aldenso

Cops just have no chance of catching bikes, and I'm pretty sure they realize they will put many lives into danger by chasing after one than it's worth. Both these things combined would probably make most cops think twice before trying to pursue.

Not to hijack this thread, but today I was doing 120 in a 60 (km/h) and didn't see two cops radaring. They didn't even flinch when I finally noticed them at the last second (although I wondered if maybe they didn't get a reading off of my bike because it's a small target. Don't they have to shoot the radars at a flat spot, which the ninja doesn't have?)

Either way that squid has some skillz.

120 in a 60? In Ontario?

That's just asking for an HTA 172 charge. If you were going that fast, radar or not they should have pulled you over. I'm not a radar gun but I'm pretty sure I could tell you if someone was doubling the speed limit in a 60 zone.

[rockNroll]

I know that SC Troopers will run 160mph after a motorcycle.