aRacer - RC2 Complete ECU - Update

Cabecinhas · May 31st, 2015, 07:27 PM

Hi,

I tryed many times search for a competion ECU for Ninja 250R and found this one. Anybody know this ECU for replace the original ECU of Ninja 250R?

Quote:

RC2 Complete ECU
aRacer SpeedTek RC2 Complete computer (Twin Cylinder)

1. Fuel and Injection phase adjustable
2. Ignition timing and dwell time adjustable
3. Manifold Air Pressure base for inlet air amount calculation
4. Released engine speed limited
5. Environment temp and Baro compensation available
6. Free MAP download for various vehicle model
7. Increase almost 10% above power after calibration (depend on engine model)
8. Easy plugin (remove stock ECU and install RC2 ECU without any harness modified)
9. Same connector as stock ECU
10. RC2 ECU meet IP67 specs
11. Support Auto-Tune with aRacer AF1 wideband sensor module
12. Race & ECO MAP real time switch with iMode
13.Launch mode for racing start
14. Valet mode for anti thief or running usage
15. Sub-throttle control
Brands and models support:
YAMAHA R25
Kawasaki: Ninja250/300, ER6N/6F, Versys

http://www.aracer-speedtek.com/English/ProductDetail.aspx?tid=15&pid=61]The original information of aRacer SpeeTek

EsrTek · May 31st, 2015, 08:15 PM

Sounds like a generic one that you will have to program everything on..
Might have maps for certain models did you confirm maps for your bike +mods?
or have knowledge to program the ECU?

If not might want to look at spacep0d's youtube where he got his ECU flashed might help...think that place does a ecu swap program or mail in to flash..but it's in Cali US...not sure if hard to get things to/from where u are.

Somchai · May 31st, 2015, 10:45 PM

@EsrTek, may I ask you who 'spacep0d' is - is he a tuner?

@Cabecinhas, welcome to the forum.
You should ask the company on which ECU of the Ninja 250 their setup is based?
For the model 2008-2012 there are 4 different ECU's and now in Asia there is also the newer 250 from 2013 on.
How much is the price of the RC2?
But anyway a good find and information

EsrTek · June 1st, 2015, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somchai

@EsrTek, may I ask you who 'spacep0d' is - is he a tuner?:

Nah just a youtuber who brought his bike into a tuner shop...I just didn't have time to look up the vid w/ the shop's name in it.

Somchai · June 1st, 2015, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

Nah just a youtuber who brought his bike into a tuner shop...I just didn't have time to look up the vid w/ the shop's name in it.

Thank you, so I'll search for him and take a look

Somchai · June 1st, 2015, 10:08 PM

After now for nothing waiting already 6 business hours without an answer from aRacer-Speedtek asking them for a pricelist and if the RC2 is working with my 2011 model, let me say forget about that company (just like Scuderia Platini and Koso).
This is the only way to go and nothing else http://www.msextra.com/ - Megasquirt EFI

By the way on my old pc which broke I'd have a link to a guy in Indonesia who'd use the Megasquirt and on FB he showed a dyno with 39.2 hp at the crank for the 2013 250 FI-Model (but I can't find it no more since all about FB I've blocked from my computer now).

Swann · June 2nd, 2015, 05:30 AM

Somchai,

I have a 2011 too, which model unit did you use?

Somchai · June 2nd, 2015, 06:28 AM

Swann do you mean 'Special Edition' with the question for model unit?
By the way I still use it, since the Ninja is so heavy modified that
- she's got everything I want and
- a return of money would not exist.

Swann · June 2nd, 2015, 06:05 PM

I apologise, I should have been detailed.

I meant which Megasquirt model did you use on your 2011 carbureted 250 did you use?

Somchai · June 2nd, 2015, 06:38 PM

Sorry Swann, I misunderstood.
But I have to tell that my Ninja is the FI-Model and I still use the stock ECU, but with the Leovince FAST-Fuelsystem.
I also have the knowledge of the stock fuel-mapping, so my adjustments are based on this.
For you I'm no big help, sorry.

Somchai · June 5th, 2015, 04:39 AM

Its now 4 days after I'd send an email to aRacer Speedtek in Taiwan without any answer.
This means if there are problems they will leave you alone without support.
Stay away from such a crap company!

garth285 · June 5th, 2015, 08:43 AM

What abut trying to swap over a ninja 300 ECU and flashing it with a woolich cable?

Somchai · June 5th, 2015, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garth285

What abut trying to swap over a ninja 300 ECU and flashing it with a woolich cable?

Sorry, but no good idea since there are too many differences.

Cabecinhas · June 5th, 2015, 05:38 PM

What diferences are?

The processor, pinout, sensor to read...?

Somchai · June 5th, 2015, 06:21 PM

The main difference is the mapping of the ignition and the injectors. I'm not sure if the 250 with the retarded ignition of the 300 would run well.
Based on that we can be sure that the fuel-mapping is different also.
The FI-Errorcodes of the Ninja 250 can be resetted - those of the Ninja 300 can not.
And does someone think that the tuners have the complete knowledge of all code inside of the ecu? I doubt that.

Somchai · June 12th, 2015, 10:33 PM

OK, it took some time but now I got an answer about the ECU from aRacer Speedtek.

The ecu will be installed and setup by one of their dealers, but since I'd tell them I'll prefer to do things like this by myself the answer wasn't negative.
About the prices the answer was:
NTD is Taiwan currency, we follow the Exchange rate by real-time
1. RC2 ECU: NTD17000
2. iLink Calibration cable: NTD2000
3. 1 to 4 extend cable: NTD700
4. AF1 professional wideband oxygen sensor module:NTD6000

This at least means 840 USD or 740 EUR plus shipping and with this it could be an alternative to the Megasquirt (but since I didn't use neither one I can't say now).

May 31st, 2015, 08:15 PM	#2
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Sounds like a generic one that you will have to program everything on.. Might have maps for certain models did you confirm maps for your bike +mods? or have knowledge to program the ECU? If not might want to look at spacep0d's youtube where he got his ECU flashed might help...think that place does a ecu swap program or mail in to flash..but it's in Cali US...not sure if hard to get things to/from where u are. __________________________________________________ My replies are intended for street riding only, plz do not provide track only replies. Visit my new MotoVlog Channel !!

June 1st, 2015, 10:08 PM	#6
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	After now for nothing waiting already 6 business hours without an answer from aRacer-Speedtek asking them for a pricelist and if the RC2 is working with my 2011 model, let me say forget about that company (just like Scuderia Platini and Koso). This is the only way to go and nothing else http://www.msextra.com/ - Megasquirt EFI By the way on my old pc which broke I'd have a link to a guy in Indonesia who'd use the Megasquirt and on FB he showed a dyno with 39.2 hp at the crank for the 2013 250 FI-Model (but I can't find it no more since all about FB I've blocked from my computer now). Last futzed with by Somchai; June 1st, 2015 at 11:47 PM.

June 5th, 2015, 05:38 PM	#14
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May 31st, 2015, 10:45 PM	#3
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	@EsrTek, may I ask you who 'spacep0d' is - is he a tuner? @Cabecinhas, welcome to the forum. You should ask the company on which ECU of the Ninja 250 their setup is based? For the model 2008-2012 there are 4 different ECU's and now in Asia there is also the newer 250 from 2013 on. How much is the price of the RC2? But anyway a good find and information

June 2nd, 2015, 05:30 AM	#7
Swann ninjette.org member Name: Jake Location: Manila Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 135	Somchai, I have a 2011 too, which model unit did you use?

June 2nd, 2015, 06:28 AM	#8
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Swann do you mean 'Special Edition' with the question for model unit? By the way I still use it, since the Ninja is so heavy modified that - she's got everything I want and - a return of money would not exist.

June 2nd, 2015, 06:05 PM	#9
Swann ninjette.org member Name: Jake Location: Manila Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 135	I apologise, I should have been detailed. I meant which Megasquirt model did you use on your 2011 carbureted 250 did you use?

June 2nd, 2015, 06:38 PM	#10
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Sorry Swann, I misunderstood. But I have to tell that my Ninja is the FI-Model and I still use the stock ECU, but with the Leovince FAST-Fuelsystem. I also have the knowledge of the stock fuel-mapping, so my adjustments are based on this. For you I'm no big help, sorry.

June 5th, 2015, 04:39 AM	#11
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Its now 4 days after I'd send an email to aRacer Speedtek in Taiwan without any answer. This means if there are problems they will leave you alone without support. Stay away from such a crap company!

June 5th, 2015, 08:43 AM	#12
garth285 KAWASAKI GURU Name: Shawn Location: Florida Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): Turbo Ninja 250 Posts: 863	What abut trying to swap over a ninja 300 ECU and flashing it with a woolich cable?

June 5th, 2015, 06:21 PM	#15
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	The main difference is the mapping of the ignition and the injectors. I'm not sure if the 250 with the retarded ignition of the 300 would run well. Based on that we can be sure that the fuel-mapping is different also. The FI-Errorcodes of the Ninja 250 can be resetted - those of the Ninja 300 can not. And does someone think that the tuners have the complete knowledge of all code inside of the ecu? I doubt that.

June 12th, 2015, 10:33 PM	#16
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	OK, it took some time but now I got an answer about the ECU from aRacer Speedtek. The ecu will be installed and setup by one of their dealers, but since I'd tell them I'll prefer to do things like this by myself the answer wasn't negative. About the prices the answer was: NTD is Taiwan currency, we follow the Exchange rate by real-time 1. RC2 ECU: NTD17000 2. iLink Calibration cable: NTD2000 3. 1 to 4 extend cable: NTD700 4. AF1 professional wideband oxygen sensor module:NTD6000 This at least means 840 USD or 740 EUR plus shipping and with this it could be an alternative to the Megasquirt (but since I didn't use neither one I can't say now).