Race Wire Harnesses - how much would you pay?

cookiebug79 · August 5th, 2014, 03:24 PM

I'm going through a 2008 250 and converting it into a race bike. One of the things I'm doing is cleaning up the wiring harness and taking out all the extra crap for lights, kickstand, key, etc. I'm working with a friend with all the fancy crimpers/connectors to make it a super nice harness instead of just cutting out the wires. Is there a market for these harnesses? My friend does them for gixers for about $150/harness. What would a 250 price point be? There's generally less complexity on a 250, and we're known for being CAR's. At the same time, if there is a market, it needs to be worth the time to do it.

Please provide opinions candidly. Thanks!

alex.s · August 5th, 2014, 03:34 PM

half the cylinders means half the spark plugs right? that's basically like half the wiring... kinda. 75$ sounds about right.

cookiebug79 · August 5th, 2014, 04:08 PM

Let me add more detail. This would involve taking your stock harness and removing what you don't need. So the plugs/coils wouldn't be affected and the number of cylinders would matter.

- keyless ignition, using your kill switch as the on/off
- headlight, tail light, blinker, and relays removed
- any dash lights/indicators you're not using
- kick stand switch removal
- clutch switch removal
- tip over sensor removal
- fan removal if desired
- horn removal
- Diode A and Diode B removal

tooblekain · August 6th, 2014, 02:18 PM

Andy of AP Moto Arts can do it and he actually moves the ignitor to mount on the front if you dont run the OEM gauges. I don't know the exact cost since he worked on my bike doing a lot of stuff. Cleaning up my existing wire harness was included.

$100 is the most I would pay for a reworked wire harness

simook · August 7th, 2014, 04:34 PM

What's the advantage of moving the ignitor to the front?

tooblekain · August 8th, 2014, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simook

What's the advantage of moving the ignitor to the front?

Less wiring needed for the bike...so basically there is no wiring beyond seat. I bet he would figure out a way to mount the battery (especially if you're running one of those small lightweight ones) up further also. It cleans up the bike so maintenance is easier as well as diagnosing. Weight savings is very small.

DCMoney · August 8th, 2014, 09:31 AM

Ignition switch weighs 1.5 lbs.

Most I would pay is about $50 bucks, but I'm cheap and capable of doing it myself...

nickjpass · August 8th, 2014, 09:51 AM

I guess if you couldn't or wouldn't want to do it yourself, you could have a market.

cookiebug79 · August 8th, 2014, 09:59 AM

Matt, where did Andy move the fuses to?

tooblekain · August 8th, 2014, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiebug79

Matt, where did Andy move the fuses to?

When I first bought my bike the wiring harness was already modified/simplified for race only and keyless ignition. Out of the many times that I worked on it I think there were only one or two fuses throughout. I never checked the new wiring harness that Andy did. When I get my bike back in September for SoCal we can take a look at it.

mgentz · August 9th, 2014, 09:29 AM

I would get one as I would not want to trash my stock one. Of course this assumes that there is no core or exchange policy.

smokinsingle · August 9th, 2014, 02:15 PM

Only one fuse needed. The point of the diode is to keep the starter motor from possibly back-feeding and taking out the ignitor unit. I'd study the diagram and not remove that one. Been down this road before.

autocrossn · August 9th, 2014, 05:57 PM

Depends... To me it any price wouldn't be worth it I know I could do all the wiring my self.. I agree with the above $50 max tops with returned core

psych0hans · October 14th, 2014, 08:47 AM

100$ is where I would cap the price...

August 5th, 2014, 03:24 PM	#1
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Race Wire Harnesses - how much would you pay? I'm going through a 2008 250 and converting it into a race bike. One of the things I'm doing is cleaning up the wiring harness and taking out all the extra crap for lights, kickstand, key, etc. I'm working with a friend with all the fancy crimpers/connectors to make it a super nice harness instead of just cutting out the wires. Is there a market for these harnesses? My friend does them for gixers for about $150/harness. What would a 250 price point be? There's generally less complexity on a 250, and we're known for being CAR's. At the same time, if there is a market, it needs to be worth the time to do it. Please provide opinions candidly. Thanks!

August 5th, 2014, 03:34 PM	#2
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	half the cylinders means half the spark plugs right? that's basically like half the wiring... kinda. 75$ sounds about right. __________________________________________________

August 6th, 2014, 02:18 PM	#4
tooblekain ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Triumph Bonneville; 2008 Ninja 250r (trackbike) Posts: 748	Andy of AP Moto Arts can do it and he actually moves the ignitor to mount on the front if you dont run the OEM gauges. I don't know the exact cost since he worked on my bike doing a lot of stuff. Cleaning up my existing wire harness was included. $100 is the most I would pay for a reworked wire harness __________________________________________________ CVMA #312SoCal TrackdaysBigHeadz RacingMotion ProFactory EffexLeatt Brace* Racetech Bell Woodcraft CFMVortexHotbodiesSurface Sun SystemsBrakingLiveWire EnergyFreegun Underwear

August 7th, 2014, 04:34 PM	#5
simook ninjette.org member Name: Kyle Location: Portland, Oregon Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 106	What's the advantage of moving the ignitor to the front? __________________________________________________ - OMRRA Racer #83 - -- OMRRA Media Group Editor/Producer --

August 8th, 2014, 09:31 AM	#7
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	Ignition switch weighs 1.5 lbs. Most I would pay is about $50 bucks, but I'm cheap and capable of doing it myself... __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

August 5th, 2014, 04:08 PM	#3
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Let me add more detail. This would involve taking your stock harness and removing what you don't need. So the plugs/coils wouldn't be affected and the number of cylinders would matter. - keyless ignition, using your kill switch as the on/off - headlight, tail light, blinker, and relays removed - any dash lights/indicators you're not using - kick stand switch removal - clutch switch removal - tip over sensor removal - fan removal if desired - horn removal - Diode A and Diode B removal

August 8th, 2014, 09:51 AM	#8
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I guess if you couldn't or wouldn't want to do it yourself, you could have a market. __________________________________________________

August 8th, 2014, 09:59 AM	#9
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Matt, where did Andy move the fuses to?

August 9th, 2014, 09:29 AM	#11
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	I would get one as I would not want to trash my stock one. Of course this assumes that there is no core or exchange policy.

August 9th, 2014, 05:57 PM	#13
autocrossn ninjette.org newbie Name: Jones Location: lacrosse wi Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 9	Depends... To me it any price wouldn't be worth it I know I could do all the wiring my self.. I agree with the above $50 max tops with returned core

October 14th, 2014, 08:47 AM	#14
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	100$ is where I would cap the price... __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

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