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| Basic 15hr course |
   
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9 | 21.43% |
| Advanced 5hr course |
  
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33 | 78.57% |
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April 29th, 2010, 11:15 AM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much.
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Question for experienced riders
The weekend of May 22nd There will be two rider safety courses given. One is a basic 15hr course and the other is an advanced 5hr course. This will be the only dates I can attend this year. So my question for you riders that have rode for many years is, which course should I take?
Some background info to base your answer on. I am 43 yrs old and have been riding bikes off and on since I was 12 years old starting out on dirt bikes and then moving on to street bikes when I was 16. I never took the MSF course and was not required to when I got my endorsement as long as I passed the written and "driving" test. I passed both tests and the State of California gave me an endorsement. I have rode all types of bikes dirt bikes, cruisers, touring, choppers and sport/crotch rockets. I consider myself a capable rider but by no means advanced or expert. I feel that you are never too old to learn new things. I appreciate any feedback and advice you can give me. With the above in mind. Which should I take? |
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April 29th, 2010, 11:25 AM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Sean
Location: Mary Esther, FL
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.
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Take the advanced class. If it's the same one I took you will love it.
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April 29th, 2010, 11:54 AM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much.
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Thanks for the advice Sean.
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April 29th, 2010, 12:01 PM
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2010 250 Cup Champion
Name: Kristy
Location: Port Perry, Ontario, Canada
Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R and 2007 Honda CR150F Posts: 168
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I would say that based on the amount of experience you have, the advanced course is the way to go.
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April 29th, 2010, 12:03 PM
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Name: Whodat
Location: Ware Is.,MA
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I would say take a track school
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April 29th, 2010, 01:11 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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Which of the two options would you suggest based on my curent experience? |
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April 29th, 2010, 02:46 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Sean
Location: Mary Esther, FL
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.
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Rick - Just curious what is the cost and names of the classes?
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April 29th, 2010, 02:49 PM
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Newb..... on a steeek! :D
Name: Mike
Location: Windermere, FL
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.
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I would also check that you can even take the advanced course without the basic MSF endorsement. I think in some places you had to have the basic course card in order to take the advanced. Also the basic helped the seasoned riders in my class break several bad habits they didn't even know they had.
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April 29th, 2010, 02:49 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Craig
Location: Silicon Valley, CA USA
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '98 EX250, '02 EX250, '08 250r, '03 SV650, '98 GSXR750 '03 Hayabusa, '87 YSR50, '84 ZX900, +MORE Posts: A lot.
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April 29th, 2010, 04:14 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Whodat
Location: Ware Is.,MA
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I've never done either of those MSF courses. I watched my two sons take the basic course and to tell you the truth I thought it was a joke. I took my oldest son to the track and he got much more from riding there. I'm taking the younger son to the track as soon as he turns 18 this July.
So I'm not qualifies to answer the question but I am qualified to give my advice; to the track!
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April 29th, 2010, 04:23 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Steve
Location: Kekaha, Kauai HI
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 GSX-R 600 2003 EX250: Woodcraft Bars, Levers, Mirrors, Shim'd Mixture, Synthetic, '08 Rear Shock Posts: A lot.
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given the choice between the two, with your riding history i'd suggest the advanced, and voted accordingly. true, never to old to learn something new, but being you have to choose tween the two, well there ya go...besides, bet you'll take something new out of this course as well.
good luck
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April 29th, 2010, 07:51 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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Basic Rider Course is a 15.5-hour course designed for the beginning motorcycle operator with emphasis on the special skills and mental attitude necessary for navigating safely in traffic. Classroom instruction is followed by practical exercises, which are usually divided, into two sessions on Saturday and Sunday in a controlled, off-street environment. Motorcycles used in Basic course may not exceed 550cc.* Cost: $25 + training m/c reservation fee $75 (Includes student workbook.) Advanced Rider Course is a 5-hour course for the motorcyclist who wants to hone his/her mental and physical skills. The course involves cornering, braking, and evasive maneuvering techniques using student-owned motorcycles and discussion of street riding techniques. Street legal motorcycle & M/C endorsement required. *Cost: $25 |
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April 29th, 2010, 07:58 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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April 30th, 2010, 05:03 AM
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Name: Kerry
Location: Pensacola
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.
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Yeah, think your beyond the basic's. So Advanced course for sure  They doing track days at NPR again? |
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April 30th, 2010, 07:51 AM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: David
Location: Burlington, MA
Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Ninja 250 (sold); 2008 Plasma Blue Ninja 250 Posts: 364
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Damn courses are cheap where you are, I believe the MSF basic rider course cost me 200 but granted I also had my license at the end of it.
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April 30th, 2010, 08:51 AM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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April 30th, 2010, 12:38 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Alex
Location: Belfast, ME
Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.
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Rick, Go with the advanced course. I`ll be taking it in a few weeks---instructor is really good and rides a Duc.
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May 3rd, 2010, 03:44 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: addy126
Location: Tx
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.
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Rick with your experience the Basic Course will bore you to tears. You are far beyond what they do in Basics I can assure you..... enjoy because you are right "you are never to old to learn more".... its a good thing
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May 5th, 2010, 05:27 PM
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Livin' the Minimoto Life
Name: Mark
Location: Riding around in TX
Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda Navi, 2018 Z-125 Pro Posts: A lot.
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Basic Course:
This is where the key goes... This is the clutch... This is the starter button... This is the clutch friction zone... Now release the clutch where the bike just starts to inch forward, pull in a repeat... Now, using the friction zone, walk your bike across the parking lot... Now do it with your feet up... Take this turn... Stop in this box... Shift to this gear and back again... Turn here, shift to 2nd, downshift to 1st, turn here, shift to second, then stop here... Now take a riding test... That is the cliff note version. 
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May 6th, 2010, 09:37 AM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
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Thank you to everyone that responded. I am going to take the advanced course and then go to a track school.
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May 10th, 2010, 08:53 AM
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ninjette.org member
Name: John
Location: Boston
Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Zx10R 2009 250R Posts: 134
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Unless you forgot how to change gears and don't know what a kill switch is, go advanced. They offer beginner, advanced and experienced courses in MA and took the experienced course and it definitely taught me a few new things.
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May 22nd, 2010, 05:58 AM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: Debbi
Location: South Florida
Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250 (Sold); 2008 Ninja EX500 Posts: 273
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June 1st, 2010, 10:29 AM
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ninjette.org Monkey Spank
Name: Kevin
Location: Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.
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TRACK DAYS......LOTS OF EM.
you will learn more taking a trackday WITH classroom instruction than you will at the advanced class. PLUS......... it LOTS and LOTS of fun.
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June 27th, 2010, 12:37 PM
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ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: eddie
Location: Lawnguylind
Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.
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Like anything else, MSF get's mixed reviews though mostly favorable...which is understandable because the good reviews are by people who already spent the money.
Been on bikes since you were 12 ! Unless you just ride on Sunday mornings, I can't imagine that you'll learn much you haven't already been thru. I haven't taken the course. |
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June 27th, 2010, 06:52 PM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: Aaron
Location: Gone riding.
Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 389
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MSF CARD = Proof your capable of parking lot practice. what a waste of time....
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