February 25th, 2012, 07:52 AM | #41 | ||
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The reason is that you don't want to be at top speed too long, for a while. Riding slow, will take the operation of the engine to a range of rpm's lower than the ideal for obtaining the benefits of 15 teeth. I would recommend learning the feel of 14 teeth first; nothing wrong with that transmission ratio for general use (it is not a design mistake or something like that). Survival and learning should be your priorities rather than top speed and fuel economy. Quote:
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February 25th, 2012, 08:46 AM | #42 | |
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By putting the power band in a different speed range, the maximum efficiency curve (output/input energy ratio) is relocated. You may get better fuel consumption for cruise speed (~70 mph) at the expense of not reaching absolute maximum speed (which requires maximum power (torque x rpm) at the rear wheel) or maximum torque at minimum speed.
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February 25th, 2012, 10:53 AM | #43 | |
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Regarding the highspeed discomfort I originally posted about, I went out for a couple more rides gradually working up my speed and focusing on keeping my weight lower and reducing steering input and it has really helped. It is extremely windy out today so I got to experience handling in the wind and while keeping relaxed and maintaining smooth throttle control I felt much more in control of the bike @ 50 - 60mph indicated. Cornering is also getting much better thanks to the relaxed posture. Leaning into a turn is easier when my hands aren't fighting each other the whole way through. Thanks everyone for the great advice. |
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February 25th, 2012, 11:15 AM | #44 | |
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Go into full tuck position so you won't act like a parachute. There was a thread I started in the riding skills subsection about people feeling like they'd get blown off their bike during higher speeds. If you cannot go into full tuck due to inflexibility or discomfort, look into getting an aftermarket windscreen (double bubble or touring) for higher wind deflection. This way you'd still be able to sit upright without wind whipping against your body.
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February 25th, 2012, 02:18 PM | #45 | |
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Sorry, I don't understand the reference. Do you mean that you want to avoid shifting from 1 to 2 immediately after taking off from a light or stop sign while you are crossing the intersection? If so, I believe that you understand that less force will be available during the start up. My personal preference is to have all the punch I can, which has saved my rear end more than one time. Some emergencies require quick acceleration from stop.
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February 25th, 2012, 02:49 PM | #46 | |
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I agree that you should get used to the bike totally stock first, and then go mod by mod. Once you feel confident with the 14T, you will have more of a feel for if you will even want to change it. It is a cheap mod, so you can always try it, and change it back too. It is my belief that the engineers choose the 14T because they were trying to design a bike that would appeal to the widest crowd, and since it is a small sport bike, believed more people would want the feel of a little more torque off the line... but it does come at a cost. And also, since they designed/tunned the bike with "economy" in mind, it's overall performance falls way short of its potential.
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February 26th, 2012, 09:28 PM | #48 |
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Yep! Stomp grip will help you relieve some of your grip pressure along with experience. Fear and anxiety is OK with cruddy conditions, just don't transmit it to your hands, transmit it to your eyes and ears. Don't worry, it will all come around one day and you will have an iron butt, hands of steel, and a sore back[/QUOTE]
You nailed it. I'm 100 miles further into the learning curve and the discomfort I felt at speed was my anxiety running from my head to my hands. Thanks to the advice from you and others on this board, I'm using my eyes more to control direction and that has helped greatly. |
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