October 3rd, 2012, 12:16 AM | #1 |
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High temp spray paint coming off of my headers/pipes, what next?
so my headers are starting to chip and peel in high friction areas on my headers and exhaust pipes. I really love the look of the 250 with the stock exhaust so I'm thinking of repainting them, but what should I do this time? Should I pay someone to do it for me? Should I do it myself?
It's really a damn shame this is happening, my pipes stock when I first finished them but the paint is just not up to snuff. What's the call you would make? |
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October 3rd, 2012, 12:38 AM | #2 |
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October 3rd, 2012, 03:55 AM | #3 |
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October 3rd, 2012, 09:23 AM | #4 |
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Paint is all about the prep work. Did you scuff & clean your pipes before you painted?
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October 3rd, 2012, 09:57 AM | #5 |
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:18 AM | #6 | |
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Put down a layer of primer, then sanded, and then painted with my normal high temp paint. The paint is holding well in most parts but I'm pretty sure a combination of other factors including weather and general use are contributing to this. I don't garage my bike so it's not hidden from the elements. Edit: considering powder coating it this time or taking it to someone who does. Any ball park idea of what a job like that would cost? I'm guessing around 200 at the cheapest. |
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:48 AM | #7 |
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Primer failed. I don't know of any high-temp primers. Hi-temp paints I've seen are meant to be applied directly to the metal surface. Check out http://www.eastwood.com for some nice high-temp paints. However, if you're the least bit lean the temps of the exhaust at the head will be higher than any paint you can apply. Consider ceramic coating? Though, not sure why bother, the Ninja exhaust system isn't known for rusting out.
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:51 AM | #8 |
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Paint for stoves
Painted my fairly rusty headers, brush on enamel for the cast iron stove. Worked fine so far on the EX250:
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October 3rd, 2012, 11:34 AM | #9 |
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You shouldn't have needed to primer the pipes. Sand/scuff/clean and paint. Even if you wanted to primer the pipes, you should have still sanded and cleaned prior to the primer.
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October 3rd, 2012, 01:59 PM | #10 | ||
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I'm considering ceramic. I mostly care about the aesthetics of my headers and exhaust pipes. It doesn't really matter in the end if our pipes are painted or not, I just don't to have to buy any headers other than stock since they're all so loud (even the area-p imo). Quote:
Sanded pipes down to metal, scuffed them up, primed, sanded, primed spots without much primer, sanded, painted, then clear coated. all high temp paint rated at 2000 and all the same brand. Maybe I just didn't do it well enough but main issue here is friction with the headers and pipes taking paint off (at least on my pipes), not paint just flaking off by itself. |
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October 3rd, 2012, 02:16 PM | #11 |
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Unbolt everything and get it to the point that you just need to pull to have the can off. Now scuff/sand it up. Fire up the bike and get the exhaust good an hot(do not ride it), then (Carefully-Dont burn yourself.) remove the exhaust, and paint it while its still hot. The heat will help it cure better, and you get a better matte coating with no runs.
It doesnt really matter what you do, if you scrape the exhaust can up against something, it will chip off the high-temp paint. |
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October 3rd, 2012, 02:16 PM | #12 |
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I would go with a high temp ceramic paint.
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October 3rd, 2012, 08:02 PM | #13 | |
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October 3rd, 2012, 08:24 PM | #14 | |
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I'm kind of at a loss at what I could do other than pay someone to paint them with ceramic paint, or just try and repaint them with HT paint again. It's a shame black ninja 250 pipes in stock condition are nonexistent |
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October 3rd, 2012, 09:00 PM | #15 |
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They sell ceramic paint for engines at autostores. I've used some and it holds up pretty well. I've also used some specialized ($40/qt) high temp black coating that can withstand heat from turbo manifolds. That worked really well, but prep is very strenuous. I media blasted the manifolds to get a uniform surface first. Then you spray it on and bake it at 400F. That's the initial cure. The final cure happens when you're boosting and the manifold gets to 800F. That coating held up very well, even to scratches and what not.
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:14 PM | #16 |
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:24 PM | #17 |
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Had eastwood products too but sent them back before i put it on. Too late now for you but the auto boards tipped me off that...most of the time...it flakes. I sanded the pipe down to stainless and am real pleased with how it looks.
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:31 PM | #18 | ||
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Also I love my dual exhausts <3 Quote:
http://i.imgur.com/qzNwa.jpg Hell, I might just do it because of the flaking paint and see what it looks like. It's not like the paint is going to get any better. How'd you sand yours? It took me forever to get them down with sand paper. |
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October 4th, 2012, 07:46 AM | #19 |
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if you want to paint headers and exhaust you need a ceramic based paint.
they make header paint. it holds up to a very high temp. general high temp paint isnt the same. it will all burn off or dry and flake off. you need header paint yo. auto stores have it. usualy black/grey/whiteish
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October 4th, 2012, 08:06 AM | #20 |
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Yeah, you won't piss of neighbors with a QC system. But if stock is too loud for you, I guess I understand that. I was never personally a fan of the dual exhausts
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October 4th, 2012, 09:33 AM | #21 |
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Dual exhausts are damn annoying
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October 9th, 2012, 02:10 PM | #23 |
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Try a brand called "Stove Bright". It works wonders. I, and multiple others, use it on our turbo exhaust manifolds and it holds up just fine.
Just don't forget to prep good. |
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December 17th, 2012, 01:59 PM | #24 |
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Painted the Ninja 250 exhaust system with 2000F Rustoleum primer/paint. It's starting to bubble/flake too.
Took the exhaust system off of an Aprilia Dorsoduro and had the headers & LeoVince decat ceramic coated at a local shop for $60. The ceramic coating worked out great. |
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December 20th, 2012, 06:27 PM | #25 |
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Ceramic coated for $60 you say? Huh. Maybe I'll do that with my headers this season. I want to get them coated so my exhaust bungs don't rust.
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