Custom counter

snoopy07 · March 4th, 2009, 03:28 AM

Hi, I'm a French girl, so sorry I don't speak very well English.

I 've found a person who realised background custom counters on motos; so I asked her what I wanted and she realised my background (in France we have water temperature instead of gas gauge)
The result is very nice comparated to tho OEM background:

And in the dark (with white leds instead of bulbs):

If you are interested, this person has a website but it's in french:
http://www.yodesign.fr/index.php?opt...id=51&Itemid=1

Alex · March 4th, 2009, 03:30 AM

Neat! How hard is it to install? Do the front of the gauges remove easily?

Welcome to the site!

snoopy07 · March 4th, 2009, 03:38 AM

It isn't very hard to install but it's long because it's necassary to remove the fairings to have access to nuts.

I did a DIY on ninja french forum, pictures can help you to understand:
http://www.ninja250r.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=800

Alex · March 4th, 2009, 03:42 AM

Merci beaucoup! I love the slogan at the top of that French forum:

"Le forum de la petite Kawasaki"

miks · March 4th, 2009, 04:45 AM

Very nice!

Don't seem to really like the 'petite' part...

Also, WELCOME!

ninjabrewer · March 4th, 2009, 12:52 PM

Aloha and Welcome to the forum, this is really getting an international flavor now.

nb

TnNinjaGirl · March 4th, 2009, 12:55 PM

If it makes you feel any better none of us speak English well either. C'est la vie...

Welcome to the forums. You have a beautiful country with wonderful people. I hope to visit again someday.

camaroz1985 · March 4th, 2009, 01:12 PM

Those are nice.

I found this place a while ago.

http://www.speedhut.com/

They do similar things, but need someone to send them a gauge cluster to use for prototyping. You won't get it back so it doesn't make sense unless you have a broken cluster from a wreck or something. In exchange you get a free set of overlays once they reach the necessary 25 preorders to start production.

Seems like your friend was much easier to deal with.

On a side note, I wish we had the temp gauge instead of the gas gauge.

snoopy07 · March 4th, 2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

Welcome to the forums. You have a beautiful country with wonderful people. I hope to visit again someday.

Yes. Morehover I've the chance to live in the campaign with fun roads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Seems like your friend was much easier to deal with.

On a side note, I wish we had the temp gauge instead of the gas gauge.

Yes, with her I just scaned the OEM backgound and send by email, then she edit on computer and make the new background.

And in effect I think a temp gauge is more useful than gas gauge!

headshrink · March 4th, 2009, 04:11 PM

Interesting.... it looks like your "red line" is a lot lower than ours! Is that on all the FI models?

Nemy · March 4th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopy07

And in effect I think a temp gauge is more useful than gas gauge!

I don't think anyone will fight you on this. I would much rather use my trip meter and have a reserve tank.

And welcome to the forums!

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

Interesting.... it looks like your "red line" is a lot lower than ours! Is that on all the FI models?

Good eye, I didn't notice that. Maybe its just the custom color??

kkim · March 4th, 2009, 04:36 PM

redline on FI bikes are 11k.

headshrink · March 4th, 2009, 04:40 PM

I assume then their powerbands kick in a little lower (stock vs. stock)?

kkim · March 4th, 2009, 04:50 PM

CRXTrek · March 4th, 2009, 10:23 PM

Gregulars Pic shows the same 13,thou as ours...

kkim · March 4th, 2009, 10:26 PM

interesting... I got my specs off the euro kawasaki specs page.

Alex · March 4th, 2009, 10:29 PM

AFAIK the euro specs say that max power is at 11K rpm, but they don't list a redline.

here's a link to the specs on the UK site...

Since there are zero changes to the valvetrain, or the bore/stroke dimensions, I'd be surprised if the redline was much different, if at all different, than the carbed versions.

What's interesting to me is that the US Specs page doesn't even list rated horsepower for the carbed version, just the max torque.

Sound Wave · March 4th, 2009, 11:59 PM

welcome to the forum! i was staring at the graphic on the speedometer. i couldn't figure out what it is... that is a pic of the ninja! i thought it was roses or something at first. lol.

snoopy07 · March 5th, 2009, 12:16 AM

My red line begins at 13 000, the pictures don't reflect very well the colours.
I wanted a gradient of colour so before the red line it's more orange than red, like on this picture:

Guinss · March 5th, 2009, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

redline on FI bikes are 11k.

11k?

its not :P its at 13K

kkim · March 5th, 2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

What's interesting to me is that the US Specs page doesn't even list rated horsepower for the carbed version, just the max torque.

According the service manual for the US bikes, max HP happens at 11K also.

Alex · March 5th, 2009, 12:09 PM

But does the service manual say what the rated hp is? (not just what revs it peaks at, but the actual rating)

EDIT: It does, page 1-8. 23.4 kW (31.8 PS) at 11K rpm. Curiously, it doesn't list a redline in the engine specs. So at least from a rating perspective, the carbed is very slightly less powerful than the FI version. (33 PS compared to 31.8 PS). 1 PS = .9863201 HP, so it's really 32.5 hp on the FI, and 31.4 on the carbed, which works out to about 25 or 26 hp at the rear wheel for both of them.

headshrink · March 5th, 2009, 11:51 PM

OK, I see.... the bar is filled in at 13K, so the colors do make it a little deceptive if you aren't used to it.

zartan · March 5th, 2009, 11:58 PM

Hi Snoopy07,
welcome and gauges look great. Thanks for the link to your DIY!

snoopy07 · March 6th, 2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

But does the service manual say what the rated hp is? (not just what revs it peaks at, but the actual rating)

EDIT: It does, page 1-8. 23.4 kW (31.8 PS) at 11K rpm. Curiously, it doesn't list a redline in the engine specs. So at least from a rating perspective, the carbed is very slightly less powerful than the FI version. (33 PS compared to 31.8 PS). 1 PS = .9863201 HP, so it's really 32.5 hp on the FI, and 31.4 on the carbed, which works out to about 25 or 26 hp at the rear wheel for both of them.

Well, I thought on the contrary that the FI was less powerful than the carbed

Other thing: on FI we have an automatic starter

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

OK, I see.... the bar is filled in at 13K, so the colors do make it a little deceptive if you aren't used to it.

Ok, but it doesn't incommode me, it's a bit like a shiftlight which say to pass the rate

Quote:

Originally Posted by zartan

Hi Snoopy07,
welcome and gauges look great. Thanks for the link to your DIY!

Hi, you're welcome!

headshrink · March 6th, 2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopy07

Other thing: on FI we have an automatic starter

Yeah, it kinda sucks having to kick-start the US version.

zartan · March 6th, 2009, 12:34 AM

Snoopy, We have an automatic starter on our Carb models here also. Very handy!
also, I messaged you a question. check your mail.

kkim · March 6th, 2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

Yeah, it kinda sucks having to kick-start the US version.

lol... let's see you say that in French.

Give the kid a break... I assumed she meant the FI bikes have an auto choke system at start up as opposed to our manual choke for the carbs.

headshrink · March 6th, 2009, 12:41 AM

LOL - actually I had no idea what she was talking about, assumed it was probably something real, but it was just too easy to let go (and I assumed someone would clarify, so thank you)..... it's been storming for a week and aparently I get in a bad mood when I can't ride, I'm not used to not riding. And to think I have only been riding since last June (I must have been a real jerk before then).

kkim · March 6th, 2009, 12:47 AM

lol... motorcycle PMS?

I like that the forum is starting to attract people from other countries and I think we should be a bit more understanding of the barrier they face in trying to explain things in a second language. Check out her DIY that she did on their 250 board. She did an excellent job on it.

snoopy07 · March 6th, 2009, 01:05 AM

Well, sorry I thought that the word was the same that in french.
I talk about this on the picture, I don't know the word.

We don't have it, FI adjusts the motor regime when the motor is cold!

zartan · March 6th, 2009, 01:11 AM

We call that the choke lever but it's real name is Starter choke lever. So you were correct.

We can get easily confused here... I thought you meant kick starter also.
KKim knew what you meant.

Alex · March 6th, 2009, 01:11 AM

Snoopy - You're exactly right, the FI bikes don't have (or need) one of those; the ECU takes care of cold starts without need for a manual enrichener.

noche_caliente · March 8th, 2009, 11:32 AM

Bonjour Emmanuelle! Bienvenue a ninjett.org! Ok, I've mostly exhausted my supply of French, but it's great to have you here - and merci beaucoup for sharing your pictures!

March 4th, 2009, 03:28 AM	#1
snoopy07 ninjette.org member Name: Emmanuelle Location: France Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 18	Custom counter Hi, I'm a French girl, so sorry I don't speak very well English. I 've found a person who realised background custom counters on motos; so I asked her what I wanted and she realised my background (in France we have water temperature instead of gas gauge) The result is very nice comparated to tho OEM background: And in the dark (with white leds instead of bulbs): If you are interested, this person has a website but it's in french: http://www.yodesign.fr/index.php?opt...id=51&Itemid=1

March 4th, 2009, 03:30 AM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Neat! How hard is it to install? Do the front of the gauges remove easily? Welcome to the site! __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 4th, 2009, 03:42 AM	#4
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Merci beaucoup! I love the slogan at the top of that French forum: "Le forum de la petite Kawasaki" __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 4th, 2009, 04:45 AM	#5
miks I'm lovin' it. Name: Mike Location: Melb, Australia Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.	Very nice! Don't seem to really like the 'petite' part... Also, WELCOME! __________________________________________________ Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son.

March 4th, 2009, 12:52 PM	#6
ninjabrewer dirty old man Name: Chris Location: Hazel Green, AL Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Blue '08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Aloha and Welcome to the forum, this is really getting an international flavor now. nb __________________________________________________ Death tugs at my ear and says, "Live, I am coming." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., poet, novelist, essayist, and physician (1809-1894) www.friendsofsanonofre.org

March 4th, 2009, 03:38 AM	#3
snoopy07 ninjette.org member Name: Emmanuelle Location: France Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 18	It isn't very hard to install but it's long because it's necassary to remove the fairings to have access to nuts. I did a DIY on ninja french forum, pictures can help you to understand: http://www.ninja250r.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=800

March 4th, 2009, 12:55 PM	#7
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	If it makes you feel any better none of us speak English well either. C'est la vie... Welcome to the forums. You have a beautiful country with wonderful people. I hope to visit again someday.

March 4th, 2009, 01:12 PM	#8
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Those are nice. I found this place a while ago. http://www.speedhut.com/ They do similar things, but need someone to send them a gauge cluster to use for prototyping. You won't get it back so it doesn't make sense unless you have a broken cluster from a wreck or something. In exchange you get a free set of overlays once they reach the necessary 25 preorders to start production. Seems like your friend was much easier to deal with. On a side note, I wish we had the temp gauge instead of the gas gauge.

March 4th, 2009, 04:11 PM	#10
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Interesting.... it looks like your "red line" is a lot lower than ours! Is that on all the FI models?

March 4th, 2009, 04:36 PM	#12
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	redline on FI bikes are 11k.

March 4th, 2009, 04:40 PM	#13
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I assume then their powerbands kick in a little lower (stock vs. stock)?

March 4th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#14
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.

March 4th, 2009, 10:26 PM	#16
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	interesting... I got my specs off the euro kawasaki specs page.

March 4th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#17
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	AFAIK the euro specs say that max power is at 11K rpm, but they don't list a redline. here's a link to the specs on the UK site... Since there are zero changes to the valvetrain, or the bore/stroke dimensions, I'd be surprised if the redline was much different, if at all different, than the carbed versions. What's interesting to me is that the US Specs page doesn't even list rated horsepower for the carbed version, just the max torque. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 4th, 2009, 11:59 PM	#18
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	welcome to the forum! i was staring at the graphic on the speedometer. i couldn't figure out what it is... that is a pic of the ninja! i thought it was roses or something at first. lol.

March 5th, 2009, 12:16 AM	#19
snoopy07 ninjette.org member Name: Emmanuelle Location: France Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 18	My red line begins at 13 000, the pictures don't reflect very well the colours. I wanted a gradient of colour so before the red line it's more orange than red, like on this picture:

March 5th, 2009, 12:09 PM	#22
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	But does the service manual say what the rated hp is? (not just what revs it peaks at, but the actual rating) EDIT: It does, page 1-8. 23.4 kW (31.8 PS) at 11K rpm. Curiously, it doesn't list a redline in the engine specs. So at least from a rating perspective, the carbed is very slightly less powerful than the FI version. (33 PS compared to 31.8 PS). 1 PS = .9863201 HP, so it's really 32.5 hp on the FI, and 31.4 on the carbed, which works out to about 25 or 26 hp at the rear wheel for both of them. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 5th, 2009, 11:51 PM	#23
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	OK, I see.... the bar is filled in at 13K, so the colors do make it a little deceptive if you aren't used to it.

March 5th, 2009, 11:58 PM	#24
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	Hi Snoopy07, welcome and gauges look great. Thanks for the link to your DIY! __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

March 6th, 2009, 12:34 AM	#27
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	Snoopy, We have an automatic starter on our Carb models here also. Very handy! also, I messaged you a question. check your mail. __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

March 6th, 2009, 12:41 AM	#29
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	LOL - actually I had no idea what she was talking about, assumed it was probably something real, but it was just too easy to let go (and I assumed someone would clarify, so thank you)..... it's been storming for a week and aparently I get in a bad mood when I can't ride, I'm not used to not riding. And to think I have only been riding since last June (I must have been a real jerk before then).

March 6th, 2009, 12:47 AM	#30
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	lol... motorcycle PMS? I like that the forum is starting to attract people from other countries and I think we should be a bit more understanding of the barrier they face in trying to explain things in a second language. Check out her DIY that she did on their 250 board. She did an excellent job on it.

March 6th, 2009, 01:11 AM	#32
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	We call that the choke lever but it's real name is Starter choke lever. So you were correct. We can get easily confused here... I thought you meant kick starter also. KKim knew what you meant. __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

March 8th, 2009, 11:32 AM	#34
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	Bonjour Emmanuelle! Bienvenue a ninjett.org! Ok, I've mostly exhausted my supply of French, but it's great to have you here - and merci beaucoup for sharing your pictures!

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