Official 2013 Ninja 300 (and 250) Thread - Page 8

tony7kp · August 1st, 2012, 10:12 AM

omg... the bike looks so nice... and it has all the things that almost sold me over to the CBR (abs/FI/digital display) and I like the body (especially the head lights) much better... I will really consider selling my 2010 for the new model if price is good.

dubojr1 · August 1st, 2012, 10:24 AM

The used market is already flooded with new-gens as well as many pre-gens. This bike coming to the U.S.A is going to cause all the previous years values to drop significantly.

Malicious Logic · August 1st, 2012, 10:30 AM

Wow.....just wow....this thing looks amazing. Definitely think it looks more like the zx6 and zx10 over the 650. Love the styling, the new gauges and possible FI too. Bravo to Kawi if this makes it to the US.

ARc · August 1st, 2012, 10:30 AM

That's good news for me, I've been missing the 250 from my stable.

Remember, if you have a Costco membership, you don't have to deal with the sales bullcrap, and just use the member pricing, lol.

choneofakind · August 1st, 2012, 10:38 AM

Yeah, I think my pregen will be lucky to sell for over 1000 after all the people who want the new bike flood Craigslist

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itsEnZo · August 1st, 2012, 10:38 AM

Interesting to hear that they're dropping the "R". From the sound of all the improvements, it seems like this model would be even better suited to carry that letter than the current model

But I'm not complaining, potentially lower insurance is definitely a plus

areifel · August 1st, 2012, 10:42 AM

WOW! *runs around all excitedly*

ARc · August 1st, 2012, 10:42 AM

We should stop rejoicing until Kawi officially states they are going to release this in the US market.

choneofakind · August 1st, 2012, 10:49 AM

Look at the throttlebodies in the gallery of pictures. Are they massively oversized? Look hpw much the intake boots have to taper down to meet up with the intake on the head. Think this thing has a massive top end if those TB's are as big as they look?

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areifel · August 1st, 2012, 10:54 AM

http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...m_essence.html

Google translating one of the above links. The torque was increased in the low to medium range to give the ninja a more "powerful engine"

menikmati · August 1st, 2012, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

You left the "@" out. He gets a notification when you use it. Like this: @menikmati

Learn something new everyday.

00NissanNinja · August 1st, 2012, 11:16 AM

Holy crap this bike is awesome. I was getting 600 but...damn...that thing looks sweet. Gonna have to sell my 09 before it comes here, no ones gonna want it with those sweet 2013s out.

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by areifel

http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...m_essence.html

Google translating one of the above links. The torque was increased in the low to medium range to give the ninja a more "powerful engine"

Not sure why it needs more low-end when it already does so well there. Sounds like a copy/paste of what they said last time.

choneofakind · August 1st, 2012, 11:21 AM

Honest question: does Kawasaki watch forums like ninjette to get feedback on what everyone is complaining about/modifying? They seem to have nmbeen pretty realistic in what they changed from what I can see
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itsEnZo · August 1st, 2012, 11:22 AM

Can't wait to see motousa's review of the bike once it hits the US

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

Anyone think the head light assembly / front fairings will be interchangable with the current new gens?

As I pointed out earlier, there is no vertical seam where the upper meets the lower and there seems to be only one bolt going into the tank. If the tank and birdcage can be swapped, then maybe, but the design also doesn't allow for retaining the side covers.

LoneRonin · August 1st, 2012, 11:32 AM

didn't expect a remodel this early, but I guess they had to with the CBR250r...looks nice but I think I like the side of the current gen better.

flynjay · August 1st, 2012, 11:36 AM

A couple of things I spy.

Larger Oil pan
Spin on oil filter
O2 sensor

This more than a cosmetic change to the engine. Previously the FI version was the same motor with a throttle boddy added on. The change to the oil filter says this is more than that. I don't think kawi will produce more than one engine for the 250.

So, I'd say good bet this is coming to the US.

rjones91 · August 1st, 2012, 11:38 AM

Kawasaki would be doing many folks a great service by bringing this FI bike to the US. I bet they won't even be able to keep them in dealerships first shipment out. The demand for these bikes are already high I can imagine the wait trying to score one as soon as they are released to US dealerships.

Or maybe I could score a used new gen at a significant lower price

...even better.

KELPHYN · August 1st, 2012, 11:41 AM

Thinking I might have a new bike next season. Might wait to see what performance gains were made, be nice to have a little more topend. Wonder how much weight it gains? Now if they would just make their 400 look like that.

choneofakind · August 1st, 2012, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynjay

A couple of things I spy.

Larger Oil pan
Spin on oil filter
O2 sensor

sOooo better oil delivery? do you think they did any major changes to the valve train to lengthen service intervals? There's new headers too.

Whoever gets this bike first in the us, get it to area p!!!!!
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Jiggles · August 1st, 2012, 11:52 AM

Dude, is that a 1000?

Whiskey · August 1st, 2012, 11:54 AM

Looks like the USA will be getting carbs again...

http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...3_ex250lm.html

Quote:

Translated from Japanese
Liquid-cooled
4-stroke Parallel Twin
DOHC 8-valve
Digital Fuel Injection (some markets)
Two hundred and forty-nine cm three
6-speed
172 kg / 174 kg (ABS model)

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

Looks like the USA will be getting carbs again...

http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...3_ex250lm.html

If Indonesia is getting FI, we are too.

NinjetteNewfie · August 1st, 2012, 11:56 AM

LOVE IT!!!!!! Hope they make it in metallic black!!!! Think I'll put future mods for my 09 on hold for a while.

5evenz · August 1st, 2012, 11:58 AM

Some more eye candy?

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Jiggles · August 1st, 2012, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

I want to see what the indo guys do with it with aftermarket stuff

Is the engine 250 cc's or 300? The official picture looks very sexy in green. Mini ZX10
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Oh man you are easily fooled

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 11:59 AM

Do the lower fairings really extend up to the headlights or are those seams for something else?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjetteNewfie

LOVE IT!!!!!! Hope they make it in metallic black!!!! Think I'll put future mods for my 09 on hold for a while.

Two blacks:
Ebony and Ebony/Metallic Moondust Gray (Special Edition)

Every color has a Special Edition. Passion Red and Pearl Stardust White share a combined SE. I prefer the green non-SE to the SE. They didn't even give the green SE a green seat!

Old Lemon · August 1st, 2012, 12:03 PM

As long as they aren't using the booger green they have on the 2012s, I'm happy

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 12:04 PM

Full English, no need for Google Translate:
http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...ex250lm_e.html

DougBR · August 1st, 2012, 12:04 PM

In Brazil Kawi said they don´t know when the new model will arrive here, but they already lowered the price of a new 2012 one by US$ 750,00.
They are already cleaning their stock for the new awesome 2013!

Since they only brought the "newgen" to Brazil in 2009, and they are already preparing for the new one, you can be sure it will be in the US in no time.

Whiskey · August 1st, 2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

If Indonesia is getting FI, we are too.

There's a reason you didn't get it last time around, carbs are cheaper to make, if they don't see the need they won't spend extra. US emissions laws are lax enough to let carbs stay.

Maybe to take honda down, but that's not a dead cert.

The line "some markets" says they're doing carbs. It's cheaper & if they think the styling gives it a better market position they may go with the cheaper option again

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

There's a reason you didn't get it last time around, carbs are cheaper to make, if they don't see the need they won't spend extra. US emissions laws are lax enough to let carbs stay.

Maybe to take honda down, but that's not a dead cert.

The line "some markets" says they're doing carbs. It's cheaper & if they think the styling gives it a better market position they may go with the cheaper option again

That's exactly what I'm saying. The only "need" there applies here as well (competition). The Indonesian version of the EPA isn't more strict than ours, so that's not what is doing it. Also, there's the fact that the FI model was presented as "L" instead of "M," which makes it the primary model this gen.

LoD575 · August 1st, 2012, 12:07 PM

Damn is this sexy

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 12:08 PM

Full English, no need for Google Translate:
http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...ex250lm_e.html

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 12:16 PM

From Kawasaki's site:

Quote:

Circuit-developed frame
New diamond-style frame with optimised rigidity offers the high level of chassis stability necessary for high-performance sport riding. Rubber front engine mounts significantly reduce engine vibration, contributing to the high-quality ride feel.
Combined with the stiffer new frame, revised damping settings and softer spring rates front and rear contribute to the Ninja 250's nimble handling, and enable both increased comfort for city riding as well as a firmer feeling when sport riding.

I guess the old frame was "diamond-style" too because it's still the same basic design. All that new stuff around the tail seems to be for the strange lid thing in the trunk and the integrated grab-handles (no mention of these in the product description). The new mounting and all that other talk elsewhere about the engine now being a stressed member of the frame makes it sound completely different, but I just don't see it.

menikmati · August 1st, 2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynjay

A couple of things I spy.

Larger Oil pan
Spin on oil filter
O2 sensor

This more than a cosmetic change to the engine. Previously the FI version was the same motor with a throttle boddy added on. The change to the oil filter says this is more than that. I don't think kawi will produce more than one engine for the 250.

So, I'd say good bet this is coming to the US.

Would the spin on oil filter make oil changes more of a hassle? I've seen that on other bikes (I think I've seen it on a recent ZX6R or R6) that it's more of a pain in the ass and sometimes requires removal of some fairings to get access to it.

robmilchling · August 1st, 2012, 12:20 PM

Well, looks like its a good thing the lien release is already in the mail for my newgen... I'd be seriously afraid of what this release would do to the previous gen's resale value. I was planning on selling my bike anyway, but this might encourage a little more haste.

It's very evident how threatened Kawasaki feels in regards top the Honda 250. That being said, this looks to be very promising, although the styling is kind of meh in my opinion.

EthioKnight · August 1st, 2012, 12:20 PM

Well...it's pretty cool, but it doesn't make me want to trade my headlight splitted, koso gauged and fully huggered baby.
Only thing it has going for it in my opinion, is the FI...but no matter, there's ecotrons

(oh..and maybe the bigger tires also...but 150's been done)
so don't despair, new gen folks...I'm not.

CZroe · August 1st, 2012, 12:21 PM

Not exactly a shift light, but:

Quote:

Economical Riding Indicator
A mark appearing on the instrument panel to indicate favourable fuel consumption, encouraging fuel efficient riding.

August 1st, 2012, 10:24 AM	#282
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	The used market is already flooded with new-gens as well as many pre-gens. This bike coming to the U.S.A is going to cause all the previous years values to drop significantly. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 1st, 2012, 10:30 AM	#283
Malicious Logic hates stupid people Name: Mark Location: Oklahoma City Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R Posts: 860	Wow.....just wow....this thing looks amazing. Definitely think it looks more like the zx6 and zx10 over the 650. Love the styling, the new gauges and possible FI too. Bravo to Kawi if this makes it to the US. __________________________________________________ My vlogging channel: Ma1iciousLogic

August 1st, 2012, 10:30 AM	#284
ARc Revolver Wario Name: Jeffrey Location: La Palma, CA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250 Posts: 198 Logo Dude	That's good news for me, I've been missing the 250 from my stable. Remember, if you have a Costco membership, you don't have to deal with the sales bullcrap, and just use the member pricing, lol. __________________________________________________

August 1st, 2012, 10:42 AM	#288
ARc Revolver Wario Name: Jeffrey Location: La Palma, CA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250 Posts: 198 Logo Dude	We should stop rejoicing until Kawi officially states they are going to release this in the US market. __________________________________________________

August 1st, 2012, 11:16 AM	#292
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Holy crap this bike is awesome. I was getting 600 but...damn...that thing looks sweet. Gonna have to sell my 09 before it comes here, no ones gonna want it with those sweet 2013s out. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

August 1st, 2012, 10:12 AM	#281
tony7kp ninjette.org member Name: Han Location: Columbia, MD Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R SE Posts: 77	omg... the bike looks so nice... and it has all the things that almost sold me over to the CBR (abs/FI/digital display) and I like the body (especially the head lights) much better... I will really consider selling my 2010 for the new model if price is good.

August 1st, 2012, 10:38 AM	#285
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Yeah, I think my pregen will be lucky to sell for over 1000 after all the people who want the new bike flood Craigslist Posted via Mobile Device

August 1st, 2012, 10:38 AM	#286
itsEnZo ninjette.org member Name: Jared Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): None.. YET Posts: 41	Interesting to hear that they're dropping the "R". From the sound of all the improvements, it seems like this model would be even better suited to carry that letter than the current model But I'm not complaining, potentially lower insurance is definitely a plus

August 1st, 2012, 10:42 AM	#287
areifel ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Florida Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 194	WOW! runs around all excitedly

August 1st, 2012, 10:49 AM	#289
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Look at the throttlebodies in the gallery of pictures. Are they massively oversized? Look hpw much the intake boots have to taper down to meet up with the intake on the head. Think this thing has a massive top end if those TB's are as big as they look? Posted via Mobile Device

August 1st, 2012, 10:54 AM	#290
areifel ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Florida Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 194	http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...m_essence.html Google translating one of the above links. The torque was increased in the low to medium range to give the ninja a more "powerful engine"

August 1st, 2012, 11:21 AM	#294
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Honest question: does Kawasaki watch forums like ninjette to get feedback on what everyone is complaining about/modifying? They seem to have nmbeen pretty realistic in what they changed from what I can see Posted via Mobile Device

August 1st, 2012, 11:22 AM	#295
itsEnZo ninjette.org member Name: Jared Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): None.. YET Posts: 41	Can't wait to see motousa's review of the bike once it hits the US

August 1st, 2012, 11:32 AM	#297
LoneRonin ninjette.org sage Name: Jason Location: Mississauga Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250r Posts: 634	didn't expect a remodel this early, but I guess they had to with the CBR250r...looks nice but I think I like the side of the current gen better. __________________________________________________ ”Any man dies with a clean sword, I’ll rape his f*ing corpse!”- The Hound

August 1st, 2012, 11:36 AM	#298
flynjay ninjette.org guru Name: Jason Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 (sold), '06 Ninja 650R Posts: 455	A couple of things I spy. Larger Oil pan Spin on oil filter O2 sensor This more than a cosmetic change to the engine. Previously the FI version was the same motor with a throttle boddy added on. The change to the oil filter says this is more than that. I don't think kawi will produce more than one engine for the 250. So, I'd say good bet this is coming to the US.

August 1st, 2012, 11:38 AM	#299
rjones91 Pro Newbie Name: Shanii Location: N. Florida Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Honda CBR 250r......2007 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: 138	Kawasaki would be doing many folks a great service by bringing this FI bike to the US. I bet they won't even be able to keep them in dealerships first shipment out. The demand for these bikes are already high I can imagine the wait trying to score one as soon as they are released to US dealerships. Or maybe I could score a used new gen at a significant lower price ...even better.

August 1st, 2012, 11:41 AM	#300
KELPHYN ninjette.org guru Name: Calvin Location: Quesnel, B.C Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R (sold), 2013 300SE Posts: 276	Thinking I might have a new bike next season. Might wait to see what performance gains were made, be nice to have a little more topend. Wonder how much weight it gains? Now if they would just make their 400 look like that.

August 1st, 2012, 11:52 AM	#302
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Dude, is that a 1000? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 1st, 2012, 11:56 AM	#305
NinjetteNewfie ninjette.org member Name: Melissa Location: Newfoundland, Canada Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 179	LOVE IT!!!!!! Hope they make it in metallic black!!!! Think I'll put future mods for my 09 on hold for a while.

August 1st, 2012, 11:58 AM	#306
5evenz ninjette.org member Name: Sev Location: Vancouver Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09' 250r Thunder Blue Posts: 165	Some more eye candy? [/IMG]

August 1st, 2012, 12:03 PM	#309
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	As long as they aren't using the booger green they have on the 2012s, I'm happy

August 1st, 2012, 12:04 PM	#310
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Full English, no need for Google Translate: http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...ex250lm_e.html

August 1st, 2012, 12:04 PM	#311
DougBR ninjette.org member Name: Douglas Location: Vila Velha - ES - Brazil Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 19	In Brazil Kawi said they don´t know when the new model will arrive here, but they already lowered the price of a new 2012 one by US$ 750,00. They are already cleaning their stock for the new awesome 2013! Since they only brought the "newgen" to Brazil in 2009, and they are already preparing for the new one, you can be sure it will be in the US in no time.

August 1st, 2012, 12:07 PM	#314
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	Damn is this sexy

August 1st, 2012, 12:08 PM	#315
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Full English, no need for Google Translate: http://www.kawasaki-cp.khi.co.jp/mcy...ex250lm_e.html

August 1st, 2012, 12:20 PM	#318
robmilchling ninjette.org guru Name: Rob Location: Baltimore, Maryland Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Triumph Daytona 675 Posts: 256	Well, looks like its a good thing the lien release is already in the mail for my newgen... I'd be seriously afraid of what this release would do to the previous gen's resale value. I was planning on selling my bike anyway, but this might encourage a little more haste. It's very evident how threatened Kawasaki feels in regards top the Honda 250. That being said, this looks to be very promising, although the styling is kind of meh in my opinion.

August 1st, 2012, 12:20 PM	#319
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	Well...it's pretty cool, but it doesn't make me want to trade my headlight splitted, koso gauged and fully huggered baby. Only thing it has going for it in my opinion, is the FI...but no matter, there's ecotrons (oh..and maybe the bigger tires also...but 150's been done) so don't despair, new gen folks...I'm not. __________________________________________________ My Videos

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