Difference between these two PC5's ?

Jason5885 · December 29th, 2014, 07:46 AM

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorc...er-commander-5

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorc...l-and-ignition

The Later states it ' Includes Ignition Adjustment '

What does this mean? what benefit does it have over the former ?

Thanks in advance ninja wizards.

EsrTek · December 29th, 2014, 07:49 AM

I believe that adjusts when your spark 'ignites' the fuel in chamber...not exactly sure.

Either way it's advanced stuff and if your asking what it is, you will not need it (yet).

Jason5885 · December 30th, 2014, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

I believe that adjusts when your spark 'ignites' the fuel in chamber...not exactly sure.

Either way it's advanced stuff and if your asking what it is, you will not need it (yet).

Thanks. Yeah I'm going to have to agree with you there. I have the Fuel Only version, i was just curious what the extra ~$25 was going towards with the other one.

HKr1 · December 31st, 2014, 07:42 AM

Thats pretty cool to have the ignition in with the pcV for a couple dollars more. Igntion module for other bikes, cost as much as the pcV.

Jason5885 · January 1st, 2015, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

Thats pretty cool to have the ignition in with the pcV for a couple dollars more. Igntion module for other bikes, cost as much as the pcV.

Man I should have bought it! It was only £10 more

Somchai · January 15th, 2015, 05:53 AM

Jason, do not annoy yourself for a false purchase because you bought the correct PCV.
To tune the ignition of an engine it requires a very high level of knowledge about engine technology and very expensive test equipment.
An ignition timing WITHOUT knowing the original ignition curve is IMPOSSIBLE.
If you are keen then you can change your ignition fix with a Woodruff key to adjust for a different value, but also that I would not advise you. Although I must confess that I did just that and it's one of my best mods, but my ignition is now advanced up to 46 degrees.
So if you are really stuck and plan to go this route, then also because of his knowledge only Chris would be in question to make all the settings in the ECU directly for you.

Chicagobob · January 15th, 2015, 08:10 AM

PCV with ignition is useful on many bikes. If you can't tune it yourself or use auto-tune, the downloadable maps make use of it. Works well on my 650r with aftermarket air filter and exhaust.

Jason5885 · January 16th, 2015, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somchai

Jason, do not annoy yourself for a false purchase because you bought the correct PCV.
To tune the ignition of an engine it requires a very high level of knowledge about engine technology and very expensive test equipment.
An ignition timing WITHOUT knowing the original ignition curve is IMPOSSIBLE.
If you are keen then you can change your ignition fix with a Woodruff key to adjust for a different value, but also that I would not advise you. Although I must confess that I did just that and it's one of my best mods, but my ignition is now advanced up to 46 degrees.
So if you are really stuck and plan to go this route, then also because of his knowledge only Chris would be in question to make all the settings in the ECU directly for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicagobob

PCV with ignition is useful on many bikes. If you can't tune it yourself or use auto-tune, the downloadable maps make use of it. Works well on my 650r with aftermarket air filter and exhaust.

I believe , on this occasion, this is far to advanced for me guys. But thanks for the info

maybe a few years down the line il look into it

December 29th, 2014, 07:46 AM	#1
Jason5885 ninjette.org member Name: Jason Location: Scotland Join Date: Nov 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250r FI Posts: 205 Blog Entries: 1	Difference between these two PC5's ? http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorc...er-commander-5 http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorc...l-and-ignition The Later states it ' Includes Ignition Adjustment ' What does this mean? what benefit does it have over the former ? Thanks in advance ninja wizards.

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EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	I believe that adjusts when your spark 'ignites' the fuel in chamber...not exactly sure. Either way it's advanced stuff and if your asking what it is, you will not need it (yet).

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HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Thats pretty cool to have the ignition in with the pcV for a couple dollars more. Igntion module for other bikes, cost as much as the pcV.

January 15th, 2015, 05:53 AM	#6
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	Jason, do not annoy yourself for a false purchase because you bought the correct PCV. To tune the ignition of an engine it requires a very high level of knowledge about engine technology and very expensive test equipment. An ignition timing WITHOUT knowing the original ignition curve is IMPOSSIBLE. If you are keen then you can change your ignition fix with a Woodruff key to adjust for a different value, but also that I would not advise you. Although I must confess that I did just that and it's one of my best mods, but my ignition is now advanced up to 46 degrees. So if you are really stuck and plan to go this route, then also because of his knowledge only Chris would be in question to make all the settings in the ECU directly for you.

January 15th, 2015, 08:10 AM	#7
Chicagobob ninjette.org guru Name: Bob Location: Chicago Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): '06 Ninja 250, 2018 Honda GL1800B Posts: 315	PCV with ignition is useful on many bikes. If you can't tune it yourself or use auto-tune, the downloadable maps make use of it. Works well on my 650r with aftermarket air filter and exhaust.