Difficulty factor installing clip-ons?

00v_Lucky · December 7th, 2009, 01:54 AM

I am thinking about purchasing clip-ons but am iffy on the difficulty of installing them.

I have seen all of the DIYs on this forum and seem pretty easy but, I have been misled once. I thought installing an exhaust was easy until I discovered how stubborn/cheap the plastics are!

So my question is, how much/less difficult are clip-ons to install?

I wish there was a difficulty factor for all of the DIYs on a scale of 1-10. 1 being the easiest and 10 the hardest rated based on: time consumption, number of tools needed, number of parts needed to be taken off of the bike, and maybe risk of mistakes? lol something like that

Therefore if I were to rate installing an exhaust a 5, and removing the windshield and replacing turn signals a 2, what would you rate the difficulty on clip-ons? Because from kkims DIY on clip-ons I want to know how impossible it would be to take off the bar-ends without a torch and grips with out a super-duper long screwdriver.

ninja250 · December 7th, 2009, 03:29 AM

I might be wrong because I've never done it,
but if you rate the exhaust a 5 you're probably looking at about an 7-8 rating on installing clip-ons. That's gonna take a lot of patience probably.. lots of stuff to adjust and you gotta make sure it's right or your controls will be screwy.

Even though I'm a 6'6" tall person (could use the added room) and very technical, I've decided to pass on clip-ons for the forseeable future.
Maybe next year if I get bored and need new mods to do.

rockNroll · December 7th, 2009, 05:15 AM

I voted 10, only because you rated the exhaust a 5.

RRTRIDER · December 7th, 2009, 01:31 PM

they were easy to install. just takes a lot of time. took me 4 hours for the initial install and a few more hours to adjust them to the position i like after a few rides. just follow Kkim's DIY and it will be easy. i stripped a bolt so i can't adjust them anymore tho. =/

tiburonsita · December 7th, 2009, 02:30 PM

I would call 30 minutes easy. 4 hours of install doesn't seem very easy to me. Even with the helpful DIY, I personally have passed on a self-install. Will be an hour of paid labor and no frustration for me.

As for the bar ends: they apparently come with the red lock glue. (forgot the exact name). So it can be really had to remove but it's all muscle power. if you strip the screw then it just gets more cumbersome but still not difficult.

g21-30 · December 7th, 2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiburonsita

As for the bar ends: they apparently come with the red lock glue. (forgot the exact name). So it can be really had to remove but it's all muscle power. if you strip the screw then it just gets more cumbersome but still not difficult.

It's called Loctite and it's color is Red. It is an Anaerobic Adhesive. By definition, anaerobic adhesives remain liquid until isolated from oxygen in the presence of metal ions, such as iron or copper. In other words, once the bolt is tightened, oxygen is cut off and the liquid hardens, which seals the threads and makes the bonding very very permanent, in the case of Red Loctite. There is really only ONE WAY to remove a bolt, which has Red Loctite on it and that is to HEAT it. The heat breaks the bond and then the same force, i.e. torque that was applied to tighten the bolt, will loosen the bolt.

If you decide to use brute strength on a properly Red Loctite bonded bolt/screw, you will most likely break the bolt or ream the screw slot. It really is much easier to apply heat via a MAPP or Propane torch for roughly one minute and then remove the bolt/screw.

kkim · December 7th, 2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

It's called Loctite and it's color is Red. It is an Anaerobic Adhesive. By definition, anaerobic adhesives remain liquid until isolated from oxygen in the presence of metal ions, such as iron or copper. In other words, once the bolt is tightened, oxygen is cut off and the liquid hardens, which seals the threads and makes the bonding very very permanent, in the case of Red Loctite. There is really only ONE WAY to remove a bolt, which has Red Loctite on it and that is to HEAT it. The heat breaks the bond and then the same force, i.e. torque that was applied to tighten the bolt, will loosen the bolt.

If you decide to use brute strength on a properly Red Loctite bonded bolt/screw, you will most likely break the bolt or ream the screw slot. It really is much easier to apply heat via a MAPP or Propane torch for roughly one minute and then remove the bolt/screw.

... and if she had actually read the DIY, she would have known that.

ninja250 · December 8th, 2009, 04:13 AM

Has anyone tried these clip ons?
http://www.sportisimoto-usa.com/accessories.php

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December 7th, 2009, 01:54 AM	#1
00v_Lucky ninjette.org sage Name: Howard Location: Cypress, So. Cal. Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250R Posts: 618	Difficulty factor installing clip-ons? I am thinking about purchasing clip-ons but am iffy on the difficulty of installing them. I have seen all of the DIYs on this forum and seem pretty easy but, I have been misled once. I thought installing an exhaust was easy until I discovered how stubborn/cheap the plastics are! So my question is, how much/less difficult are clip-ons to install? I wish there was a difficulty factor for all of the DIYs on a scale of 1-10. 1 being the easiest and 10 the hardest rated based on: time consumption, number of tools needed, number of parts needed to be taken off of the bike, and maybe risk of mistakes? lol something like that Therefore if I were to rate installing an exhaust a 5, and removing the windshield and replacing turn signals a 2, what would you rate the difficulty on clip-ons? Because from kkims DIY on clip-ons I want to know how impossible it would be to take off the bar-ends without a torch and grips with out a super-duper long screwdriver.

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RRTRIDER ninjette.org member Name: Andy Location: Fairfax Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 41	they were easy to install. just takes a lot of time. took me 4 hours for the initial install and a few more hours to adjust them to the position i like after a few rides. just follow Kkim's DIY and it will be easy. i stripped a bolt so i can't adjust them anymore tho. =/

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tiburonsita ninjette.org member Name: m Location: metro area Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 black Ninja 250R Posts: 177	I would call 30 minutes easy. 4 hours of install doesn't seem very easy to me. Even with the helpful DIY, I personally have passed on a self-install. Will be an hour of paid labor and no frustration for me. As for the bar ends: they apparently come with the red lock glue. (forgot the exact name). So it can be really had to remove but it's all muscle power. if you strip the screw then it just gets more cumbersome but still not difficult.