Kkim's photos on DIY's are gone

Ichiro · August 20th, 2011, 08:27 AM

What's happening to all of Kkim's photos? You can't see them any more.
A random check this morning shows that many, if not all of them, are gone from his DIY threads.

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 08:38 AM

He torched them.

There will be a rebuilding effort over time.

/moved to Forum Info

Ichiro · August 20th, 2011, 08:43 AM

Wow. I must be out of touch because I had no idea there was a problem.

Edit: I just read the post at http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76565
Sorry it came to this ending.

ally99 · August 20th, 2011, 09:26 AM

Didn't take long for people to miss such a tremendous asset and wealth of information. Together we can all work to restore it. Remember to take pictures as you are doing work on your bike and post them to help others.

Live2ride · August 20th, 2011, 10:49 AM

This is very unfortunate; I miss kkim

. He had such an array of knowledge that he shared with us.

Boom King · August 20th, 2011, 11:01 AM

Big loss for this forum.

As for the loss of the photos, it's unfortunate but completely within his rights. For most of us, kkim will be more remembered for his time as helpful member here rather than how it all ended. A loss brings an opportunity for other members to step up and fill this void.

Ichiro · August 20th, 2011, 11:06 AM

+1

Cuongism · August 20th, 2011, 12:25 PM

That's unfortunate since visuals do help tremendously. Can someone list all the DIY pics we need here to help rebuild?

Alex, would you prefer we add pics to his current DIY's or to start a new thread?

I'm changing my oil and replacing spark plugs this weekend so I can take pics of those. My bike is also currently naked so if there's a list here, I can easily snap photos of any internals.

the big mike · August 20th, 2011, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiro

Wow. I must be out of touch because I had no idea there was a problem.

Edit: I just read the post at http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76565
Sorry it came to this ending.

is the reason of his departure displayed in that thread? I read all of it but can't find it. Why did he leave?

Ichiro · August 20th, 2011, 12:41 PM

See Alex's post #42 on p.2 of that thread where he explains as much as he can.

nickadolph · August 20th, 2011, 12:43 PM

What I got from that thread is that the increase of bickering and arguing in most of the threads lately, has taken away from any pleasure he got from visiting the site. Just a guess on my part. Before it was posts about what new mods are being done and fun rides, etc. Now it just seems like every thread ends in "if you're not ATGATT I hope you die in an accident" or "I see you lowsided, you're such a f**king squid".

setasai · August 20th, 2011, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuongism

That's unfortunate since visuals do help tremendously. Can someone list all the DIY pics we need here to help rebuild?

Alex, would you prefer we add pics to his current DIY's or to start a new thread?

I'm changing my oil and replacing spark plugs this weekend so I can take pics of those. My bike is also currently naked so if there's a list here, I can easily snap photos of any internals.

I'd be totally down with helping rebuild the photos but even if we could provide the pictures, it would not be as streamlined as if we were to add the photos into the threads themselves.

Hate to say it but it might be necessary to either copy kkim's DIY threads and add photos (giving him credit of course) or rewrite some of the DIY's with our own photos. Also, instead of embedding it from our own personal sites, attaching the photos could ensure it stays put even if the user's personal photo archives are changed.

Kevin2109 · August 20th, 2011, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ren13

If he was such a "tremendous asset" why did he destroy all the photos?

Sounds like a jerk to me.

kinda feeling the same now.... really sad

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 12:59 PM

Here are the key threads that are missing photos, there are somewhere around 8 of them left. They deal with carb work, exhaust installs, and a few others. I agree with Brian that the pics make the most sense within the threads themselves. What I'd suggest is that if anyone is going through the same processes going forward, if they have relevant pics to share in the process, just let me know and I can insert them appropriately within the existing thread. Kkim can and will get blanket credit for creating the threads of course (his name is still attached to them), but the new pic credits will be attributed as well.

In the scheme of a board with 16,000+ threads, this should be a drop in the bucket, but a few of these threads are the highest viewed, with 40k views for the woodcraft install thread, and 20k views for the oil change DIY. Here's the list I have. I'm sure this isn't fully complete, but it should be the bulk of the ones linked from the DIY sticky and/or important other tech threads:

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9851 Zartan's Exh hanger
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10239 Rim tape
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11012 Area P Exh Hanger
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15136 footpeg extenders
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17448 Area P quiet Module Instal
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33367 Vinyl Graphics
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65198 Carb Rebuild/ bike won't start
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69471 More Carb work, inside the carbs

(edited as of 10/15/11)

ChaosFromAbove · August 20th, 2011, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickadolph

What I got from that thread is that the increase of bickering and arguing in most of the threads lately, has taken away from any pleasure he got from visiting the site. Just a guess on my part. Before it was posts about what new mods are being done and fun rides, etc. Now it just seems like every thread ends in "if you're not ATGATT I hope you die in an accident" or "I see you lowsided, you're such a f**king squid".

I've been watching from the shadows and have noticed the same thing...but the thing is, this isn't the only forum suffering from the sudden burst of anger, outrageously large egos, and copious amounts of testosterone.

It seems to come with almost every motorcycle forum I've been an active member of. It seems that these newer people who just got their first bike think they're tough **** cause they are a badass motorcyclist and now they have the power to lash out against others if they don't follow their beliefs...it's nothing more than cyber bullying and it's getting old fast. I'm at the point where I don't even want to use forums anymore and keep my knowledge to myself because it is very rare to find anyone that pays it forward these days.

My other choice would be to make my own forum and set up a kind of point system in which community members could vote a person up or down (kind of like reputation) and if the person receives too many negative votes then a notification is sent to an admin who can choose to ban/warn/block the person with negative feedback...problem is the time and cost to run such a forum on a dedicated server is a bit high...and i just don't have those kind of resources.

Kevin2109 · August 20th, 2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosFromAbove

My other choice would be to make my own forum and set up a kind of point system in which community members could vote a person up or down (kind of like reputation) and if the person receives too many negative votes then a notification is sent to an admin who can choose to ban/warn/block the person with negative feedback...problem is the time and cost to run such a forum on a dedicated server is a bit high...and i just don't have those kind of resources.

Great idea, love it!

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 01:33 PM

The reputation systems don't work long-term. It's a very public way of discounting anyone who is new. And it's an excuse for those who have been around for awhile, and by sheer time alone, are bound to have very high reputation points. Each post here stands alone, whether you're here for the first week or have been here for years. It's the reason that once post counts hit a certain level at this site, the notations in the avatar block are normalized.

I think the tone issue is one thing that comes up from time to time, and while it is frustrating, that's not the key issue. If people are noticeably belligerent, it's very easy to tune them out (either individually via "ignore", or at a board-wide level by just bouncing or muting them). The bigger problem, that kkim felt, (I'm paraphrasing, so forgive me), is that there are more and more people online who not only truly don't know what they are talking about re: motorcycling, but they repeat it enough times here to brand-new riders in ways that can truly mislead, and are combative when they are challenged. News flash: If a rider has been doing this for less than 5 years, they're still new. If they have less than 100,000 miles, they're still new. The rider is still learning quite a bit along the way. If they're not, they're doing it wrong.

It gets tiresome to try and stay positive, remain the voice of reason, and continually find new ways to get the main points across. There are many, many posters here who do a great job of just that. Kkim will unfortunately no longer be one of them.

setasai · August 20th, 2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Here are the key threads that are missing photos, there are somewhere around 20 of them. They deal with carb work, exhaust installs, clip-on installs, and a few others. I agree with Brian that the pics make the most sense within the threads themselves. What I'd suggest is that if anyone is going through the same processes going forward, if they have relevant pics to share in the process, just let me know and I can insert them appropriately within the existing thread. Kkim can and will get blanket credit for creating the threads of course (his name is still attached to them), but the new pic credits will be attributed as well.

In the scheme of a board with 16,000+ threads, this should be a drop in the bucket, but a few of these threads are the highest viewed, with 40k views for the woodcraft install thread, and 20k views for the oil change DIY. Here's the list I have. I'm sure this isn't fully complete, but it should be the bulk of the ones linked from the DIY sticky and/or important other tech threads:

I appreciate you volunteering to input the photos into the threads but are you sure you want to take on that feat yourself? It could get ridiculous quickly. You're already busy as it is with your family. I'd prefer you take your free time and join us on another ride instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosFromAbove

My other choice would be to make my own forum and set up a kind of point system in which community members could vote a person up or down (kind of like reputation) and if the person receives too many negative votes then a notification is sent to an admin who can choose to ban/warn/block the person with negative feedback...problem is the time and cost to run such a forum on a dedicated server is a bit high...and i just don't have those kind of resources.

There is no perfect system but I can see how the voting system could be abused by those that just dont like that member.

gt_turbo · August 20th, 2011, 01:34 PM

yea i noticed kelly wasn't posting anymore for a while now. he sure did help me a lot being a newb to this motorcycle world and all. his DIY guides and being responsive with questions thru PM's really did help me learn a lot. he will definitely be missed.

we need to keep working where kelly left off and continue to pay it forward!

the big mike · August 20th, 2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiro

See Alex's post #42 on p.2 of that thread where he explains as much as he can.

OMG there are multiple pages, I feel so stupid right now, i'm sorry

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setasai

I appreciate you volunteering to input the photos into the threads but are you sure you want to take on that feat yourself? It could get ridiculous quickly. You're already busy as it is with your family. I'd prefer you take your free time and join us on another ride instead.

It's not an either or, I hope to do both.

If the pictures exist somewhere online, and someone tells me where they should go, it only takes moments to add the links & attachments to the threads. I'm happy to do it. It's not something we need to complete tomorrow, or this week, or this month. Over time, I hope that we can get enough back up to make it unnecessary to create brand-new DIY's for all of these. The bulk of the work is already done, and some of those threads have been shown to be particularly useful.

Ichiro · August 20th, 2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the big mike

OMG there are multiple page, I feel so stupid right now, i'm sorry

No need to feel bad or apologize.

setasai · August 20th, 2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

It's not an either or, I hope to do both.

If the pictures exist somewhere online, and someone tells me where they should go, it only takes moments to add the links & attachments to the threads. I'm happy to do it. It's not something we need to complete tomorrow, or this week, or this month. Over time, I hope that we can get enough back up to make it unnecessary to create brand-new DIY's for all of these. The bulk of the work is already done, and some of those threads have been shown to be particularly useful.

Haha a do it all kind of guy i see. Ok fair enough.

Honko · August 20th, 2011, 02:52 PM

I wish I had taken pictures when I installed my Area P system

Cuongism · August 20th, 2011, 02:53 PM

Thank you for the list Alex. I'll take as many pics as I can this weekend as I'm trying to get the bike started again. Definitely can do oil change, removing gas tank, Corbin seat and I believe I have pictures of my Area P Race install. I normally use photobucket, but I can upload to an album here to make it easier for you to link.

I already cleaned out my carbs, but if my bike still doesn't start and removing them again is necessary, I'll take more pics

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 03:14 PM

Hi Cuong - you can use an album if you want, but photobucket would be just fine as well. What I will likely do with all of 'em is add them as attachments within the post. That way they are locked in and are guaranteed stable, for as long as this site is up.

Honko · August 20th, 2011, 03:18 PM

Have you considered hosting the pictures on the server itself Alex? I'm part of an art forum where if you want to include a picture you can upload the picture to the website instead of linking it from a photo-sharing website so if the picture ever gets taken down from the website, it could still continue to exist on here. I'm not particularly aware of the logistics of such a thing or the financial implications so you may have already considered this but not included it. Just a thought

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 03:21 PM

The picture albums are hosted here, and any image attachments in posts are hosted here. It's the linked images that can be hosted anywhere on the internet. I can block the <img> tags so no external images work, but that's a little drastic, and people really do get good use out of being able to quickly post <img> tags and have them work as expected. The 3 ways people can get pictures onto this site are listed in a sticky thread at the top of the pictures section.

backinthesaddleagain · August 20th, 2011, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live2ride

This is very unfortunate; I miss kkim

. He had such an array of knowledge that he shared with us.

Yup, always willing to share his knowlege (pay it forward as he had in his signature).

noche_caliente · August 20th, 2011, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

[*]http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13507 Zero G double Bubble[/LIST]

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13511

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 06:46 PM

Good call, Noche! I'll highlight yours in the sticky, and just remove the other one.

noche_caliente · August 20th, 2011, 07:00 PM

Alex-
I have many of these saved in pdf format from Kawi forums - I'm attaching them below, but feel free to remove this post... I'm torn over whether I should even share them here...

EDIT: Noche - I got all of 'em, and the pics are back where they should be for all of those you had stored.

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 07:19 PM

Thanks, Kim. I don't think we can replace the original DIY's with these PDF's outright, as while they have similar content, these would belong to kawiforums. I'll leave them up here for awhile until we figure out what to do with them here. One way might be to extract just the pics to recreate what was already published.

headshrink · August 20th, 2011, 07:43 PM

Think google would still have them cached?

headshrink · August 20th, 2011, 07:47 PM

Darn, google is getting way too fast for us these days.... they're gone.

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 07:48 PM

Google doesn't cache many photos. But Noche's solution was spot-on, for at least the older ones. The Corbin one has been recreated already. I'll delete the PDF's as I finish them.

Liber · August 20th, 2011, 08:06 PM

What a disaster. I took those pics for granted. This really doesn't seem like the Kelly I knew. Of all the people on this board he would seem to be the one least likely to take his ball and go home. Very unsettling.

When I work on my bike I'll be sure to take pics from now on.

Havok · August 20th, 2011, 08:07 PM

I am very conflicted over all this to he honest. Kelly was great in here, helped both me and Sharon numerous times, a wealth of knowledge and a willingness to help out.

To smash all that by killing the pics in the DIY's it's like a diffrent person did it, not the same Kelly that helped a lot if us out. I understand leaving for what ever reason but he had a legacy here. It's like finding out Cal Ripkin was on roids and beat his wife everyday or Joe Montana stole the other teams playbooks to win. I liked and admired Kelly, sadly he let me down.

The good news the threads wil be rebuilt i am sure next tech day I will help with pics and I am sure the guys will have a few DIY's to post up. I say we redo them entirely, new DIY's from the members.

Cuongism · August 20th, 2011, 08:11 PM

Honestly, we don't don't know that he purposely removed them since they have IMG tags linked from Kawiforums especially since they've been up for a couple months since he left. I know with Photobucket, they remove my pics if I have no activity for 3 months.

Alex · August 20th, 2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuongism

Honestly, we don't don't know that he purposely removed them.

We know.

August 20th, 2011, 08:27 AM	#1
Ichiro ninjette.org member Name: Ichiro Location: So.Cal. Long Beach. Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r(sold). 2013 Kymco Super8 150 Posts: 223	Kkim's photos on DIY's are gone What's happening to all of Kkim's photos? You can't see them any more. A random check this morning shows that many, if not all of them, are gone from his DIY threads.

August 20th, 2011, 08:38 AM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	He torched them. There will be a rebuilding effort over time. /moved to Forum Info __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 08:43 AM	#3
Ichiro ninjette.org member Name: Ichiro Location: So.Cal. Long Beach. Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r(sold). 2013 Kymco Super8 150 Posts: 223	Wow. I must be out of touch because I had no idea there was a problem. Edit: I just read the post at http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76565 Sorry it came to this ending. Last futzed with by Ichiro; August 20th, 2011 at 10:12 AM.

August 20th, 2011, 10:49 AM	#5
Live2ride ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cody Location: NoVa Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 yzf r6r previously: 09 ninja 250r, black 07 zx6r Posts: A lot.	This is very unfortunate; I miss kkim . He had such an array of knowledge that he shared with us. __________________________________________________

August 20th, 2011, 12:59 PM	#14
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Here are the key threads that are missing photos, there are somewhere around 8 of them left. They deal with carb work, exhaust installs, and a few others. I agree with Brian that the pics make the most sense within the threads themselves. What I'd suggest is that if anyone is going through the same processes going forward, if they have relevant pics to share in the process, just let me know and I can insert them appropriately within the existing thread. Kkim can and will get blanket credit for creating the threads of course (his name is still attached to them), but the new pic credits will be attributed as well. In the scheme of a board with 16,000+ threads, this should be a drop in the bucket, but a few of these threads are the highest viewed, with 40k views for the woodcraft install thread, and 20k views for the oil change DIY. Here's the list I have. I'm sure this isn't fully complete, but it should be the bulk of the ones linked from the DIY sticky and/or important other tech threads: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9851 Zartan's Exh hanger http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10239 Rim tape http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11012 Area P Exh Hanger http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15136 footpeg extenders http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17448 Area P quiet Module Instal http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33367 Vinyl Graphics http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65198 Carb Rebuild/ bike won't start http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69471 More Carb work, inside the carbs (edited as of 10/15/11) __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered) Last futzed with by Alex; August 20th, 2011 at 02:24 PM. Reason: additional descriptions by ninja250

August 20th, 2011, 09:26 AM	#4
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	Didn't take long for people to miss such a tremendous asset and wealth of information. Together we can all work to restore it. Remember to take pictures as you are doing work on your bike and post them to help others. __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

August 20th, 2011, 11:01 AM	#6
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Big loss for this forum. As for the loss of the photos, it's unfortunate but completely within his rights. For most of us, kkim will be more remembered for his time as helpful member here rather than how it all ended. A loss brings an opportunity for other members to step up and fill this void.

August 20th, 2011, 11:06 AM	#7
Ichiro ninjette.org member Name: Ichiro Location: So.Cal. Long Beach. Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r(sold). 2013 Kymco Super8 150 Posts: 223	+1

August 20th, 2011, 12:25 PM	#8
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	That's unfortunate since visuals do help tremendously. Can someone list all the DIY pics we need here to help rebuild? Alex, would you prefer we add pics to his current DIY's or to start a new thread? I'm changing my oil and replacing spark plugs this weekend so I can take pics of those. My bike is also currently naked so if there's a list here, I can easily snap photos of any internals.

August 20th, 2011, 12:41 PM	#10
Ichiro ninjette.org member Name: Ichiro Location: So.Cal. Long Beach. Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r(sold). 2013 Kymco Super8 150 Posts: 223	See Alex's post #42 on p.2 of that thread where he explains as much as he can.

August 20th, 2011, 12:43 PM	#11
nickadolph ninjette.org member Name: nick Location: Twin Cities, MN Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 168	What I got from that thread is that the increase of bickering and arguing in most of the threads lately, has taken away from any pleasure he got from visiting the site. Just a guess on my part. Before it was posts about what new mods are being done and fun rides, etc. Now it just seems like every thread ends in "if you're not ATGATT I hope you die in an accident" or "I see you lowsided, you're such a f**king squid".

August 20th, 2011, 01:33 PM	#17
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The reputation systems don't work long-term. It's a very public way of discounting anyone who is new. And it's an excuse for those who have been around for awhile, and by sheer time alone, are bound to have very high reputation points. Each post here stands alone, whether you're here for the first week or have been here for years. It's the reason that once post counts hit a certain level at this site, the notations in the avatar block are normalized. I think the tone issue is one thing that comes up from time to time, and while it is frustrating, that's not the key issue. If people are noticeably belligerent, it's very easy to tune them out (either individually via "ignore", or at a board-wide level by just bouncing or muting them). The bigger problem, that kkim felt, (I'm paraphrasing, so forgive me), is that there are more and more people online who not only truly don't know what they are talking about re: motorcycling, but they repeat it enough times here to brand-new riders in ways that can truly mislead, and are combative when they are challenged. News flash: If a rider has been doing this for less than 5 years, they're still new. If they have less than 100,000 miles, they're still new. The rider is still learning quite a bit along the way. If they're not, they're doing it wrong. It gets tiresome to try and stay positive, remain the voice of reason, and continually find new ways to get the main points across. There are many, many posters here who do a great job of just that. Kkim will unfortunately no longer be one of them. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 01:34 PM	#19
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	yea i noticed kelly wasn't posting anymore for a while now. he sure did help me a lot being a newb to this motorcycle world and all. his DIY guides and being responsive with questions thru PM's really did help me learn a lot. he will definitely be missed. we need to keep working where kelly left off and continue to pay it forward!

August 20th, 2011, 02:52 PM	#24
Honko ninjette.org sage Name: Hyon Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Green SE Posts: 574	I wish I had taken pictures when I installed my Area P system

August 20th, 2011, 02:53 PM	#25
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Thank you for the list Alex. I'll take as many pics as I can this weekend as I'm trying to get the bike started again. Definitely can do oil change, removing gas tank, Corbin seat and I believe I have pictures of my Area P Race install. I normally use photobucket, but I can upload to an album here to make it easier for you to link. I already cleaned out my carbs, but if my bike still doesn't start and removing them again is necessary, I'll take more pics

August 20th, 2011, 03:14 PM	#26
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Hi Cuong - you can use an album if you want, but photobucket would be just fine as well. What I will likely do with all of 'em is add them as attachments within the post. That way they are locked in and are guaranteed stable, for as long as this site is up. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 03:18 PM	#27
Honko ninjette.org sage Name: Hyon Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Green SE Posts: 574	Have you considered hosting the pictures on the server itself Alex? I'm part of an art forum where if you want to include a picture you can upload the picture to the website instead of linking it from a photo-sharing website so if the picture ever gets taken down from the website, it could still continue to exist on here. I'm not particularly aware of the logistics of such a thing or the financial implications so you may have already considered this but not included it. Just a thought

August 20th, 2011, 03:21 PM	#28
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The picture albums are hosted here, and any image attachments in posts are hosted here. It's the linked images that can be hosted anywhere on the internet. I can block the <img> tags so no external images work, but that's a little drastic, and people really do get good use out of being able to quickly post <img> tags and have them work as expected. The 3 ways people can get pictures onto this site are listed in a sticky thread at the top of the pictures section. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 06:46 PM	#31
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Good call, Noche! I'll highlight yours in the sticky, and just remove the other one. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 07:00 PM	#32
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	Alex- I have many of these saved in pdf format from Kawi forums - I'm attaching them below, but feel free to remove this post... I'm torn over whether I should even share them here... EDIT: Noche - I got all of 'em, and the pics are back where they should be for all of those you had stored. __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

August 20th, 2011, 07:19 PM	#33
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Thanks, Kim. I don't think we can replace the original DIY's with these PDF's outright, as while they have similar content, these would belong to kawiforums. I'll leave them up here for awhile until we figure out what to do with them here. One way might be to extract just the pics to recreate what was already published. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 07:43 PM	#34
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Think google would still have them cached? __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

August 20th, 2011, 07:47 PM	#35
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Darn, google is getting way too fast for us these days.... they're gone. __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned

August 20th, 2011, 07:48 PM	#36
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Google doesn't cache many photos. But Noche's solution was spot-on, for at least the older ones. The Corbin one has been recreated already. I'll delete the PDF's as I finish them. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 20th, 2011, 08:06 PM	#37
Liber ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Arkansas Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX250J Posts: 511	What a disaster. I took those pics for granted. This really doesn't seem like the Kelly I knew. Of all the people on this board he would seem to be the one least likely to take his ball and go home. Very unsettling. When I work on my bike I'll be sure to take pics from now on.

August 20th, 2011, 08:07 PM	#38
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I am very conflicted over all this to he honest. Kelly was great in here, helped both me and Sharon numerous times, a wealth of knowledge and a willingness to help out. To smash all that by killing the pics in the DIY's it's like a diffrent person did it, not the same Kelly that helped a lot if us out. I understand leaving for what ever reason but he had a legacy here. It's like finding out Cal Ripkin was on roids and beat his wife everyday or Joe Montana stole the other teams playbooks to win. I liked and admired Kelly, sadly he let me down. The good news the threads wil be rebuilt i am sure next tech day I will help with pics and I am sure the guys will have a few DIY's to post up. I say we redo them entirely, new DIY's from the members.

August 20th, 2011, 08:11 PM	#39
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Honestly, we don't don't know that he purposely removed them since they have IMG tags linked from Kawiforums especially since they've been up for a couple months since he left. I know with Photobucket, they remove my pics if I have no activity for 3 months.

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