gauge lights on a 2009 Ninja

Marquise · July 13th, 2009, 09:47 AM

I was wondering, I rode my 2009 Ninja 250 at night for the first time, and I don't have any gauge lights, the signals etc all work fine but I have no illumination on the fuel, tach or speedo. Is that normal? I don't think it is. I couldn't see how fast I was going on the unlit highway at night. Your thoughts? Any help appreciated. -Marquise

Ninjaboi57 · July 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM

Dude, check your fuse's under your seat to see if you have a blown fuse. It should be lighted. This is not normal.

gizmogamez · July 13th, 2009, 09:57 AM

my guages are illuminated blue at night.

Marquise · July 13th, 2009, 10:10 AM

Yeah I'll check that now. It is brand new, I have never seen them lit up before. Thanks for that! -M

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Originally Posted by Ninjaboi57

Dude, check your fuse's under your seat to see if you have a blown fuse. It should be lighted. This is not normal.

tjkamper · July 13th, 2009, 10:20 AM

yeah they should light up! If you have a chance make take it to the steelership and make them pay for the fuse since they sold it to you with a bad fuse.

Marquise · July 13th, 2009, 10:27 AM

Yeah I figured as much. I gave them a call already they're really great at Bow Cycle in Calgary. I will check the fuse just in case it may be a bulb or something. Thanks everyone! -M

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Originally Posted by tjkamper

yeah they should light up! If you have a chance make take it to the steelership and make them pay for the fuse since they sold it to you with a bad fuse.

razorback · July 13th, 2009, 03:56 PM

I also have one of the black bikes and love the Monster graphics...where did you find them? I would really like to put that on my bike!

NinjetteMan · July 13th, 2009, 09:32 PM

I've seen the Monster graphics at Cycle Gear

Sound Wave · July 13th, 2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquise

Yeah I figured as much. I gave them a call already they're really great at Bow Cycle in Calgary. I will check the fuse just in case it may be a bulb or something. Thanks everyone! -M

well, there are 3 bulbs so i don't think all 3 are out. any update on the fuse?

Marquise · July 28th, 2009, 08:30 PM

Ok not good news, I just picked my bike up, they had it since Friday noon, the bill was $249 but I was pissed he reduced it to $191. They wanted to charge me 1 hour to r&r all cowling to change the one bulb. I told him that was ridiculous so he charged me 0.5H and the $3 bulb. NOW the speedo lights up but the tach/fuel don't, do they have backlights too? My husband FREAKED when he saw the bill (it's gonna get nasty) and he said the tach/fuel should have their own light too

I also had a screeching noise they said was the water pump "spooling" no fault found $116.00

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Originally Posted by Sound Wave

well, there are 3 bulbs so i don't think all 3 are out. any update on the fuse?

Marquise · July 28th, 2009, 08:32 PM

Thanks very much. I had them custom made a Spy Designs in Okotoks, Alberta. You can't quite buy them that way.

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Originally Posted by razorback

I also have one of the black bikes and love the Monster graphics...where did you find them? I would really like to put that on my bike!

Sound Wave · July 28th, 2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquise

NOW the speedo lights up but the tach/fuel don't, do they have backlights too? My husband FREAKED when he saw the bill (it's gonna get nasty) and he said the tach/fuel should have their own light

yeah, there are 3 bulbs. one for each gauge.

edit... well, i think that there is also the bulbs for the neutral light, warning lights, and turn signal too.

kkim · July 28th, 2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquise

Ok not good news, I just picked my bike up, they had it since Friday noon, the bill was $249 but I was pissed he reduced it to $191. They wanted to charge me 1 hour to r&r all cowling to change the one bulb. I told him that was ridiculous so he charged me 0.5H and the $3 bulb. NOW the speedo lights up but the tach/fuel don't, do they have backlights too? My husband FREAKED when he saw the bill (it's gonna get nasty) and he said the tach/fuel should have their own light too

I also had a screeching noise they said was the water pump "spooling" no fault found $116.00

Did you take it back to a Kawasaki dealer? If so, all those items should have been covered under warranty if your bike is less than 12 months old. I'm assuming the warranty is the same in Canada as in the US.

Marquise · July 29th, 2009, 04:04 AM

It is a Kawi dealer and the one I bought it from. It is 2 months old with 1978 km on it.

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Originally Posted by kkim

Did you take it back to a Kawasaki dealer? If so, all those items should have been covered under warranty if your bike is less than 12 months old. I'm assuming the warranty is the same in Canada as in the US.

Marquise · July 29th, 2009, 04:06 AM

Omigod this is ridiculous. No lights working on the tach or fuel, All the warning lights work though.

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Originally Posted by Sound Wave

yeah, there are 3 bulbs. one for each gauge.

edit... well, i think that there is also the bulbs for the neutral light, warning lights, and turn signal too.

Cedilla · August 1st, 2009, 11:07 PM

You should not have to pay a dime for this, and they should have completely fixed it as well, if your current dealer does not want to do this it may be worth it to go out of your way to find a new dealer.

Marquise · August 3rd, 2009, 12:13 PM

I think I need to call Kawasaki Canada about this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cedilla

You should not have to pay a dime for this, and they should have completely fixed it as well, if your current dealer does not want to do this it may be worth it to go out of your way to find a new dealer.

Anteraan · August 9th, 2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquise

I think I need to call Kawasaki Canada about this...

I think that's a good idea. This should be covered.

Marquise · September 4th, 2009, 01:02 PM

Man this gets better every time. I took the bike BACK to Bow Cycle with the gauge lights they didn't fix (tach and fuel), which they FINALLY replaced, and the screaming engine noise. (More on that later) I ride 285 km and the GODDAMN tach light burns out. I told them it has a wiring issue and now they said we're not fixing it again because we didn't get paid by Kawasaki last time. AWESOME. I ordered a friggin SHOP manual, took 3 bulbs and I will FIX IT MYSELF

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Originally Posted by Anteraan

I think that's a good idea. This should be covered.

randomwalk101 · September 5th, 2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marquise

Man this gets better every time. I took the bike BACK to Bow Cycle with the gauge lights they didn't fix (tach and fuel), which they FINALLY replaced, and the screaming engine noise. (More on that later) I ride 285 km and the GODDAMN tach light burns out. I told them it has a wiring issue and now they said we're not fixing it again because we didn't get paid by Kawasaki last time. AWESOME. I ordered a friggin SHOP manual, took 3 bulbs and I will FIX IT MYSELF

bulb are cheap...and i have the manual online that you can download if you like. But you don't really need it to pull apart the tach to replace the bulb. It's simple.

Marquise · September 5th, 2009, 09:26 PM

Thank you very much, I'll let you know if I need help

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Originally Posted by randomwalk101

bulb are cheap...and i have the manual online that you can download if you like. But you don't really need it to pull apart the tach to replace the bulb. It's simple.

Locksmiff · September 5th, 2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marquise

Man this gets better every time. I took the bike BACK to Bow Cycle with the gauge lights they didn't fix (tach and fuel), which they FINALLY replaced, and the screaming engine noise. (More on that later) I ride 285 km and the GODDAMN tach light burns out. I told them it has a wiring issue and now they said we're not fixing it again because we didn't get paid by Kawasaki last time. AWESOME. I ordered a friggin SHOP manual, took 3 bulbs and I will FIX IT MYSELF

I hope you pointed out that they were right YOU paid them last time.

Rayme · September 6th, 2009, 03:01 AM

its things like that with cars and bikes that makes me want to never spend the extra money for something new,
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Alex · September 6th, 2009, 07:58 AM

This is a strange thread. I'm incredulous about how poorly you've been treated by Kawasaki so far. It's clear that the current dealer you're working with is just not cutting it. The easy recommendation is just "find another one", but that may be a useless thought if there really isn't another one anywhere nearby.

noche_caliente · September 6th, 2009, 11:19 AM

I did a google search, and while most of the kawasaki places that it told me about seem to be near Edmonton, it listed a cycle works near you who seems to be pretty large, maybe give them a call?

Scipyo · September 10th, 2009, 03:10 PM

my tach light is out, but I made my peace with it a while ago as I don't use it anyway. That really sucks that the dealership is being so true to stereotypes. Hope you get it fixed.
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Talonne · September 10th, 2009, 03:31 PM

Marquise, perhaps Blackfoot Motosports might be a better dealership to go to in the future. It's closer to you, for one (SE Calgary), and I've gotten decent service from them so far.

Pro-Am Motorsports is supposedly the best Kawi dealership in Calgary, but they are a bit more north. There is also Chunk Motorsports in High River, but I've never actually been down there.

This post has successfully deterred me from ever going to Bow Cycle.

a10forwar · September 10th, 2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

bulb are cheap...and i have the manual online that you can download if you like. But you don't really need it to pull apart the tach to replace the bulb. It's simple.

Sorry to interupt, just wanted to know if I could get that manual online too, I am a self proclaimed wrencher.

gamma500 · September 10th, 2009, 06:19 PM

I would check to see if there isn't a short circuit somehere if it keeps blowing those lights..a pinched wire with exposed insulation behind the dash for example. Are any of the fuses blowing ? I believe the 10amp Ignition fuse covers these lights.

Fairings
Lower Fairing Removal •Remove the side covers (see Side Cover Removal). •Remove the rivets [A]. •Remove the lower fairingmounting screws [B] and mounting
Allen bolts [C].
•Disconnect the front turn signal light connectors [A] and
remove the lower fairings [B].
•Remove the radiator fairing screws [A] and the rivets [B],
and remove the radiator fairing [C].
Lower Fairing Installation •Fit the front portions [A] of radiator fairing into the lower
portions [B] of upper fairing.
15-8 FRAME
Fairings
•Route the front turn signal light lead [A] on the fooks [B].
•Install the lower fairing.
○Fit the front portion of the lower fairing in the rear portion
of the upper fairing.
○Install the tabs [B] on the lower fairing into the rescesses
[C] on the upper cover.
Upper Fairing Removal •Remove:
Lower Fairings (see Lower Fairing Removal)
Radiator Fairing (see Lower Fairing Removal) •Remove the windshield mounting screws [A] and take out
the windshield [B].
•Remove the upper fairing bolts [A] and pull the upper fairing
[B] forwards.
•Disconnect the headlight connectors [A] and remove the
upper fairing [B].
FRAME 15-9
Fairings
•Remove:
Bolts [A]
Headlight Unit [B]
Upper Fairing Installation •When installing the windshield, align the windshield bottom
end [A] with the projection [B] on the upper fairing.
Upper Cover Removal •Remove the upper fairing (see Upper Fairing Removal). •Disconnect:
Speedometer Cable Lower End [A]
Meter Lead Connectors [B]
•Remove the upper cover [A]. •Remove the meter from the upper cover (see Meter Removal
in the Electrical System chapter).
Upper Cover Installation •Route the cable and leads correctly (see Cable, Wire and
Harness Routing in the Appendix chapter

killerkay3 · September 10th, 2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

bulb are cheap...and i have the manual online that you can download if you like. But you don't really need it to pull apart the tach to replace the bulb. It's simple.

you have a service manual that can be downloaded? link plz?

Marquise · September 16th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Oh it gets better. The tach light blew out AGAIN after 285 km, another 200 km and the fuel gauge light blew out again. How much you want to bet the damn thing is overcharging? I will pull off the seat and check MYSELF. Pretty sad. -Marquise

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamma500

I would check to see if there isn't a short circuit somehere if it keeps blowing those lights..a pinched wire with exposed insulation behind the dash for example. Are any of the fuses blowing ? I believe the 10amp Ignition fuse covers these lights.

Fairings
Lower Fairing Removal •Remove the side covers (see Side Cover Removal). •Remove the rivets [A]. •Remove the lower fairingmounting screws [B] and mounting
Allen bolts [C].
•Disconnect the front turn signal light connectors [A] and
remove the lower fairings [B].
•Remove the radiator fairing screws [A] and the rivets [B],
and remove the radiator fairing [C].
Lower Fairing Installation •Fit the front portions [A] of radiator fairing into the lower
portions [B] of upper fairing.
15-8 FRAME
Fairings
•Route the front turn signal light lead [A] on the fooks [B].
•Install the lower fairing.
○Fit the front portion of the lower fairing in the rear portion
of the upper fairing.
○Install the tabs [B] on the lower fairing into the rescesses
[C] on the upper cover.
Upper Fairing Removal •Remove:
Lower Fairings (see Lower Fairing Removal)
Radiator Fairing (see Lower Fairing Removal) •Remove the windshield mounting screws [A] and take out
the windshield [B].
•Remove the upper fairing bolts [A] and pull the upper fairing
[B] forwards.
•Disconnect the headlight connectors [A] and remove the
upper fairing [B].
FRAME 15-9
Fairings
•Remove:
Bolts [A]
Headlight Unit [B]
Upper Fairing Installation •When installing the windshield, align the windshield bottom
end [A] with the projection [B] on the upper fairing.
Upper Cover Removal •Remove the upper fairing (see Upper Fairing Removal). •Disconnect:
Speedometer Cable Lower End [A]
Meter Lead Connectors [B]
•Remove the upper cover [A]. •Remove the meter from the upper cover (see Meter Removal
in the Electrical System chapter).
Upper Cover Installation •Route the cable and leads correctly (see Cable, Wire and
Harness Routing in the Appendix chapter

Marquise · September 16th, 2009, 04:36 PM

No fuses blown, simply the light bulb fried. The bike was delivered to me minus working dash lights. Bloody alternator is probably taking out those little 194 bulbs

gamma500 · September 17th, 2009, 06:29 AM

How about getting a cheap used rectifier off eBay and seeing if this helps assuming your checking the voltage return to the battery shows numbers above the usual 13.4-6V at all rpm levels ?

Marquise · September 17th, 2009, 08:13 AM

I may give Blackfoot a try, that's where I bought my 2007 KLX250 from. I have been to Chunk Motorsports in High River they seem pretty good. Thanks! -M

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talonne

Marquise, perhaps Blackfoot Motosports might be a better dealership to go to in the future. It's closer to you, for one (SE Calgary), and I've gotten decent service from them so far.

Pro-Am Motorsports is supposedly the best Kawi dealership in Calgary, but they are a bit more north. There is also Chunk Motorsports in High River, but I've never actually been down there.

This post has successfully deterred me from ever going to Bow Cycle.

Marquise · September 17th, 2009, 09:38 AM

I agree, I cannot believe after spending the extra money on a NEW bike with full warranty (plus extended) so I wouldn't HAVE to worry or work on it this is what I get. I could have gotten a 3 yr old 636 for $1000 less

I haven't even TOUCHED on the screeching noise the bike is making either....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

This is a strange thread. I'm incredulous about how poorly you've been treated by Kawasaki so far. It's clear that the current dealer you're working with is just not cutting it. The easy recommendation is just "find another one", but that may be a useless thought if there really isn't another one anywhere nearby.

Marquise · September 17th, 2009, 09:41 AM

I did, I paid $191.00 the FIRST time and then it went back to them AGAIN when tach/fuel gauge light STILL were inop... They didn't charge me the second time but grumbled how THEY wouldn't get paid by Kawi for it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locksmiff

I hope you pointed out that they were right YOU paid them last time.

July 13th, 2009, 09:47 AM	#1
Marquise class 6 license rookie Name: Marquise Location: Dewinton, Alberta Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250, 2007 KLX250 dual sport, 2003 Yamaha R1 Posts: 37	gauge lights on a 2009 Ninja I was wondering, I rode my 2009 Ninja 250 at night for the first time, and I don't have any gauge lights, the signals etc all work fine but I have no illumination on the fuel, tach or speedo. Is that normal? I don't think it is. I couldn't see how fast I was going on the unlit highway at night. Your thoughts? Any help appreciated. -Marquise

July 13th, 2009, 10:20 AM	#5
tjkamper ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Travis Location: Warwick, RI Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	yeah they should light up! If you have a chance make take it to the steelership and make them pay for the fuse since they sold it to you with a bad fuse. __________________________________________________ Addicted to anything that has an engine and rolls.

July 13th, 2009, 03:56 PM	#7
razorback ninjette.org member Name: Linda Location: Cabot, AR Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 15	Just noticing your profile pic... I also have one of the black bikes and love the Monster graphics...where did you find them? I would really like to put that on my bike!

September 6th, 2009, 07:58 AM	#24
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September 6th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#25
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	I did a google search, and while most of the kawasaki places that it told me about seem to be near Edmonton, it listed a cycle works near you who seems to be pretty large, maybe give them a call? __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

July 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM	#2
Ninjaboi57 ninjette.org member Name: Chanh Location: Kent,WA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29	Dude, check your fuse's under your seat to see if you have a blown fuse. It should be lighted. This is not normal.

July 13th, 2009, 09:57 AM	#3
gizmogamez ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE Green Posts: 217	my guages are illuminated blue at night.

July 13th, 2009, 09:32 PM	#8
NinjetteMan ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: City of Angels Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Kawi 250R Posts: 48	I've seen the Monster graphics at Cycle Gear

August 1st, 2009, 11:07 PM	#16
Cedilla ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Huntsville, AL Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: 755	You should not have to pay a dime for this, and they should have completely fixed it as well, if your current dealer does not want to do this it may be worth it to go out of your way to find a new dealer.

September 6th, 2009, 03:01 AM	#23
Rayme ninjette.org guru Name: Remy Location: Moncton Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '04 sv650s Posts: 438	its things like that with cars and bikes that makes me want to never spend the extra money for something new, Posted via Mobile Device

September 10th, 2009, 03:10 PM	#26
Scipyo ///////////////////////// Name: Connor Location: Lafayette, CA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2008 Posts: 12	my tach light is out, but I made my peace with it a while ago as I don't use it anyway. That really sucks that the dealership is being so true to stereotypes. Hope you get it fixed. Posted via Mobile Device

September 10th, 2009, 03:31 PM	#27
Talonne ninjette.org guru Name: Jessica Location: Calgary, Canada Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Metallic Diablo Black Posts: 298	Marquise, perhaps Blackfoot Motosports might be a better dealership to go to in the future. It's closer to you, for one (SE Calgary), and I've gotten decent service from them so far. Pro-Am Motorsports is supposedly the best Kawi dealership in Calgary, but they are a bit more north. There is also Chunk Motorsports in High River, but I've never actually been down there. This post has successfully deterred me from ever going to Bow Cycle.

September 10th, 2009, 06:19 PM	#29
gamma500 ninjette.org member Name: Craig Location: Asheville, NC Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 98	I would check to see if there isn't a short circuit somehere if it keeps blowing those lights..a pinched wire with exposed insulation behind the dash for example. Are any of the fuses blowing ? I believe the 10amp Ignition fuse covers these lights. Fairings Lower Fairing Removal •Remove the side covers (see Side Cover Removal). •Remove the rivets [A]. •Remove the lower fairingmounting screws [B] and mounting Allen bolts [C]. •Disconnect the front turn signal light connectors [A] and remove the lower fairings [B]. •Remove the radiator fairing screws [A] and the rivets [B], and remove the radiator fairing [C]. Lower Fairing Installation •Fit the front portions [A] of radiator fairing into the lower portions [B] of upper fairing. 15-8 FRAME Fairings •Route the front turn signal light lead [A] on the fooks [B]. •Install the lower fairing. ○Fit the front portion of the lower fairing in the rear portion of the upper fairing. ○Install the tabs [B] on the lower fairing into the rescesses [C] on the upper cover. Upper Fairing Removal •Remove: Lower Fairings (see Lower Fairing Removal) Radiator Fairing (see Lower Fairing Removal) •Remove the windshield mounting screws [A] and take out the windshield [B]. •Remove the upper fairing bolts [A] and pull the upper fairing [B] forwards. •Disconnect the headlight connectors [A] and remove the upper fairing [B]. FRAME 15-9 Fairings •Remove: Bolts [A] Headlight Unit [B] Upper Fairing Installation •When installing the windshield, align the windshield bottom end [A] with the projection [B] on the upper fairing. Upper Cover Removal •Remove the upper fairing (see Upper Fairing Removal). •Disconnect: Speedometer Cable Lower End [A] Meter Lead Connectors [B] •Remove the upper cover [A]. •Remove the meter from the upper cover (see Meter Removal in the Electrical System chapter). Upper Cover Installation •Route the cable and leads correctly (see Cable, Wire and Harness Routing in the Appendix chapter

September 16th, 2009, 04:36 PM	#32
Marquise class 6 license rookie Name: Marquise Location: Dewinton, Alberta Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250, 2007 KLX250 dual sport, 2003 Yamaha R1 Posts: 37	No fuses blown, simply the light bulb fried. The bike was delivered to me minus working dash lights. Bloody alternator is probably taking out those little 194 bulbs

September 17th, 2009, 06:29 AM	#33
gamma500 ninjette.org member Name: Craig Location: Asheville, NC Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 98	How about getting a cheap used rectifier off eBay and seeing if this helps assuming your checking the voltage return to the battery shows numbers above the usual 13.4-6V at all rpm levels ?