June 28th, 2011, 09:49 AM | #1 |
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Name: Walt
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Jackets and Back protection.
So the more and more I think about it, I have issues with my jackets back .. "pad". It feels equivalent to say the foam that is on a Tempur-pedic bed. But its at most 3/8" thick. I'm not too knowledgeable on gear, so I was wondering if I should be at ease that this shouldn't be a problem.
Now if it isn't acceptable, I am also needing advice on if something like this will fit into my jacket |
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June 28th, 2011, 10:02 AM | #2 |
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Name: Binh
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Its an additional cost but I would suggest adding a CE approved back padding if you don't feel comfortable. Thats what I did I did not feel comfortable with the pad I had, there's different levels of back protectors. From the picture I believe there a Dainese version that may fit.
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June 28th, 2011, 10:06 AM | #3 |
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Name: John
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Go to your jacket brands website. Find the back protector they suggest or offer. Take that to motorcycle-superstore.com or equivalent and purchase.
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June 28th, 2011, 10:11 AM | #4 |
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Name: Floyd
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The back protection that comes standard in most gear is not up to standard. Back protection should be CEII rated, and most is CEI or not CE rated at all. I've wondered why jackets from even very good manufacturers are so obviously lacking, and the best I can come up with is ventilation. Backs sweat, and CEII rated armor just aren't as well ventilated as the crap the manufacturers prefer to put in. Real back armor is also a bit heavier, and may make a jacket feel more uncomfortable.
One very good option is the SAS-TEC, which is CEII rated. It also molds to fit your form, and is extremely comfortable, though admittedly not as breathable in hot weather as the standard. It is also pretty affordable, at about $40. Cheap when you are talking about protecting your spine.
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June 28th, 2011, 10:13 AM | #5 |
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I have a scorpion jacket with that exact same backpad. Just checked to see if i was able to switch it out with a knox TP2 and it did not fit. The edges were slightly too wide. If you find a suitable replacement, let me know, i'll be buying one as well.
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June 28th, 2011, 10:27 AM | #6 |
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I have the SAS-TEC protector in most of my jackets. For jackets it doesn't fit I bought a second one and trimmed it to size with a hobby knife using the standard foam pad as a template.
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June 28th, 2011, 10:32 AM | #7 |
There's a limit to s2pdty
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I have a scorpion stinger jacket and I got this and some peace of mind, http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/i...r-stryker-vest but if i can redo it again i'll get this instead http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...rotection-vest
we're talking about our backs here, so I don't think you want to cut some $ with that. |
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June 28th, 2011, 11:36 AM | #8 |
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Just confirming that the SAS-TEC comes in 3 sizes that fit most jackets, and is easily trimmable with a hobby knife. Should fit most jackets out there.
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June 28th, 2011, 12:18 PM | #9 |
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I'll go with a SAS TEC then to start with to see how it works out. One question, especially Floyd: You say it gets kind of hot under the pad, would drilling out a few more vent holes weaken it a huge amount?
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June 28th, 2011, 01:45 PM | #10 |
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Beats me, I'm not aware of any tests or anything on it. I can't imagine it would harm it too much. I left mine as purchased despite heat where I live. It really isn't that bad, just not as cool as the stock pad.
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June 28th, 2011, 02:02 PM | #11 |
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Alrighty, I'll trim and leave it as is for awhile, then if it gets to be too much, I'll try out putting some holes in it. And I'll post up how it goes afterwards if I do.
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June 28th, 2011, 02:20 PM | #12 |
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Personally I just went with a stand alone back protector:
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/s...back-protector It's low profile and fits perfectly under the jacket. You also don't have to worry about buying more armor for other jackets you may buy or having the armor shift around so it's not actually protecting your back anymore if you take a tumble. Obviously it's personal preference but I'm pretty content with it. |
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June 28th, 2011, 02:22 PM | #13 |
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Bohn makes good stuff. I use one. Took the crappy foam covered thing out of my jacket.
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June 28th, 2011, 03:20 PM | #14 | |
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June 28th, 2011, 04:16 PM | #15 | |
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As for Knox, all of their stuff is definitely highly recommended from what I've seen. |
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June 28th, 2011, 09:41 PM | #16 |
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+1 on the Sac Tec... I wear it in Texas with 100f+ everyday...
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June 29th, 2011, 06:11 AM | #17 |
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To be honest it's not that bad. You can feel a hot spot when you aren't moving, but when you are it's hardly noticeable. Even though it's a molecular armor I wouldn't put holes in it. The farthest I'd go is trimming off some of the sides/top to make it fit leaving the main body of the armor in tact. When you're upgrading armor you're doing it for the protection.
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July 1st, 2011, 06:31 AM | #18 |
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I was thinking about going with the a* bioarmor back insert, but that's CE level 1. I don't race, heck I hardly take this thing into the next county. Is the level 2 certification THAT much more protective for non-track/non-aggressive use?
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July 1st, 2011, 07:56 AM | #19 | |
So, where's the reverse?
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July 3rd, 2011, 03:43 PM | #20 |
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I'm gonna get the sas-tec for my shift jacket...have been looking for a quality back protector that won't break the bank..and it's ce2 that's awesome
* EDIT Scratch that, I just purchased the Forcefield Pro Sub 4 Back Protector. Figured might as well not skimp out on gear and also I will be able to have one super quality protector that I can use with any jacket instead of having to keep getting back protectors with each jacket. Not sure if any one here has this but I will put a review up after I get it and get some riding time with it on.
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