Buying a new bike that is 2013 model year

[Panda]

I'm considering buying a '13 ZX-6R that is new but is leftover stock.

Anything I should be concerned about/look out for if I pull the trigger?

Thanks in advance.

[Motofool]

I would check the condition of the tires, battery, hoses and air filter.
I would replace brake fluid and coolant.

I would lubricate everything that needs oil or grease, just in case.

Just as a general guide:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Service_Schedule

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_lon...o_replace_them

[adouglas]

Dan, my GSX-R was one of those... a two-year-old leftover that had been sitting in stock.

My $0.02 is that if the thing's been sitting in a warehouse for two years and not used as a demo, lubricants, coolant and brake fluid won't have degraded and the normal lubrication points will still be lubed. It's a brand-new bike. Assuming the battery's okay, it can be treated as such.

Not owning a trailer at the time, I rode it home... and did the calsci break-in along the way. I had picked up oil and a filter ahead of time so I could do that first oil change as soon as I arrived.

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/NewBike.html

The break-in procedure is at the bottom of the page. The top is a handy new-bike checklist.

The heads-up I'd give you is to make sure that everything that's supposed to be there, actually is there. Sales/parts guys are not above "borrowing" stuff off of in-stock bikes to make a customer happy. That GSX-R was missing its owner's manual and a bar-end.

[Panda]

Thanks Andy and Hernan. I appreciate the advice!

[jkv45]

Check the current book value for a 2013 model. That's about what you should pay.

As an example we purchased a used 2009 Ninja 500R with 2400 mi on it for $2000 that was purchased in 2011 as a new leftover for $3500 OTD. The MSRP in 2009 was $5499. Book value when we bought it was about $3000 - but nobody gets that for them.

We also purchased a brand new 2016 Ford Fusion, when the 2017s were out, for what the book value was for the same car used with 1000 mi on it.

[snot]

Get the warranty that is offered from kawi. It is worth the $$ and you can extended it over and over again. My 13 was bought in 12 and my warranty is good until 18... Then I will extend it another 3 years.

[snot]

Also in is injected... No carbs.

[jkv45]

Originally Posted by snot

Get the warranty that is offered from kawi. It is worth the $$ and you can extended it over and over again. My 13 was bought in 12 and my warranty is good until 18... Then I will extend it another 3 years.

You are saying to buy an Extended Warranty? Why? Given even moderate maintenance Ninjas will run forever, and haven't proved to be problematic.

I see an Extended Warranty as a BIG win for the dealership. Maybe you need it - probably you won't. It's usually $1000 or more, and I can't tell you how many people buy the 3 year extended warranty then sell the bike in less than a year - for whatever unforeseen reason.

I've never bought one on anything. If I think the specific item would need it - I wouldn't buy it.

Most of the time if something is going to crap out it's going to do it quickly, so your original factory warranty would cover it.

Save your money.

[adouglas]

Originally Posted by jkv45

Check the current book value for a 2013 model. That's about what you should pay.

Book value assumes a used bike, not a leftover.

However, you should get a very deep discount.

MSRP for my bike in 2011 was $11,999, plus prep, destination, tax and tags.

I paid $9500 out the door including prep and destination, but not including tax and tags.

I don't know what "book value" was when I bought it. I do know that I got a hell of a deal. And 60 months of free Suzuki financing on top. Didn't pay a dime in interest.

Pro tip: Feb/March is the very best time to score a deal on a leftover. Dealers are highly motivated.

[jkv45]

Originally Posted by adouglas

Book value assumes a used bike, not a leftover.

I know, but that is a very good place to start. Otherwise the dealer will throw "MSRP" at you all day - and knock-off a few bucks so you think you got a deal.

I bought a new car (2016 model, late 2016 but 2017s were on the lot) a few months ago for the book value of a used one. It should be similar for a new/leftover cycle, especially one that's going on 4 years old. Even if it hasn't been started or ridden, things (tires namely, but also other rubber parts and fluids) still degrade in over 3 years of sitting.

[snot]

Originally Posted by jkv45

You are saying to buy an Extended Warranty? Why? Given even moderate maintenance Ninjas will run forever, and haven't proved to be problematic.

I see an Extended Warranty as a BIG win for the dealership. Maybe you need it - probably you won't. It's usually $1000 or more, and I can't tell you how many people buy the 3 year extended warranty then sell the bike in less than a year - for whatever unforeseen reason.

I've never bought one on anything. If I think the specific item would need it - I wouldn't buy it.

Most of the time if something is going to crap out it's going to do it quickly, so your original factory warranty would cover it.

Save your money.

The 2013 is the first year of the new model. The 300's had a few issues (hit and miss), steering head bearing, engines blown...etc.

My warranty is about $100 a year and I don't need to worry about the engine or anything else that could be a defect.

For me it makes since. When I sell it, it will come with a warranty.

[Triple Jim]

Originally Posted by snot

When I sell it, it will come with a warranty.

Please explain this thing you call "sell".

[snot]

If the day ever comes.... That's why I keep extending the warranty.

[jkv45]

Originally Posted by snot

The 2013 is the first year of the new model. The 300's had a few issues (hit and miss), steering head bearing, engines blown...etc.

My warranty is about $100 a year and I don't need to worry about the engine or anything else that could be a defect.

For me it makes since. When I sell it, it will come with a warranty.

Panda is looking at a 2013 ZX6R.

Those are pretty darn bulletproof, and can survive extended track use without any mods, so decent maintenance and you should be good for a long time on the street.

Another thing you see is when the owner goes to sell a bike with an Extended Warranty that they paid $1000 for, they think they can get most of it back by raising their asking price $1000 - which never works.

Even at $100 a year I don't think it would pay off. If you are concerned about engine longevity run a high-end Ester-based synthetic oil like Motul or Redline for about $50 per change.

[snot]

Originally Posted by jkv45

Panda is looking at a 2013 ZX6R.

Those are pretty darn bulletproof, and can survive extended track use without any mods, so decent maintenance and you should be good for a long time on the street.

Another thing you see is when the owner goes to sell a bike with an Extended Warranty that they paid $1000 for, they think they can get most of it back by raising their asking price $1000 - which never works.

Even at $100 a year I don't think it would pay off. If you are concerned about engine longevity run a high-end Ester-based synthetic oil like Motul or Redline for about $50 per change.

2013 636 had changes too. $1000 for extended is really hight, mine is just over $300 for 4 years.
One of the engines that blew was because the pistion broke. But you do what's best for you and I do what is best for me.