Xena Alarms

elude · May 11th, 2009, 06:40 AM

If you have a xena alarm for 08 or 09 250R, which one did you get? I just want to make sure I get the right one that fits properly. There are so many models. I went on the website but it does not list our bike so I printed off the pdf document for measuring but it is hard to see.

It seems like there are a few that will fit. I'm leaning toward xx14 (fits around disc) or xzz6 (fits in hole of disc).

Any good deals for this in Toronto?

I saw the other posts on the alarm but no one is responding.

Thanks for your help.

Alex · May 11th, 2009, 09:50 AM

There's nothing too unique about our front disks, just about any disk lock will work fine, including just about all of the Xena line. If you think it looks like it will work, it will.

I have a Xena (not sure which model, it's yellow if it helps), and the battery life on the alarm is pretty pisspoor. The batteries will drain completely in only 2-3 weeks of use. You can get bulk hearing aid batteries to replace them, but it's such a pain in the neck that I rarely use it.

richierich781 · May 11th, 2009, 02:39 PM

I got the xr1 model. Battery is pain in the neck. I use mine in the rear disc. Fits perfectly. Don't forget a bright color reminder cord.
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elude · May 11th, 2009, 04:22 PM

Thanks for the posts guys. Anyone have xx14? Sounds like the battery dies quickly. So if the battery runs out while you're out then you can't unarm the alarm?!

Alex · May 11th, 2009, 04:32 PM

No, the keys will unlock/lock the disk lock at any time; that has nothing to do with the alarm in the device. When the batteries run out, the alarm just doesn't go off anymore, and the end result is the buyer spent 3 times the price of a standard disk lock with no real benefit anymore.

I'm not much of a fan of disk locks anymore anyway. They basically keep the honest folks honest. Any pro (or even semi-pro) who wants your bike will have a friend or two along to throw your bike in the back of a van in < 10 seconds and the bike is gone with or without the disk lock. If you want to lock up the bike, make sure it is physically locked to something solid with a chain that is somewhat resistant to cutting (though decent bolt-cutters will get through almost any consumer chain anyway). IMHO it's a better use of $ to take whatever one would spend on locks and aim it toward appropriate comprehensive insurance coverage.

elude · May 11th, 2009, 04:36 PM

I see what you mean. So would you still recommend buying this product?

Alex · May 11th, 2009, 04:41 PM

I wouldn't. I don't use it on my streetbikes and don't see it as a real benefit, as I put into my post right above. I do take it with me for trackdays, where I park the trailer right outside my hotel room (hopefully 30 feet or less). My wife laughs at me, because I sleep with the window wide open, even if it's chilly, so I would hear that Xena alarm if someone does start to monkey with the bike on the trailer. I put in new batteries before the trackday season, and only enable it for that one purpose.

Before doing this, I did find evidence that someone had tried to cut off the locks on our trailer, and there are a number of folks with sob stories about their bikes being stolen from hotel parking lots near track events.

richierich781 · May 11th, 2009, 05:08 PM

Like alex said anyone can steal your bike no matter what precaution u take. Having ur bike locked up, just separates the joy riders from the real thieves. the only time I used the xena lock is when I go to work and it is in tandem with a chain hooked up to something immovable. All u these things really do is make theives think twice and move on to an easier target.
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Flashmonkey · May 11th, 2009, 07:54 PM

Threadjack

Hey do any of you guys run into the problem of the alarm going off for no reason when you put it on the rear disc?

I find that whenever i put my freakin Xena on the rear disc, the alarm seems to just go off for whatever reason. What am I doing wrong here? I think its because the sensor doesn't detect the metal disc, but I'm not sure. I just want to see if theres a consensus on the matter.

/Threadjack

richierich781 · May 11th, 2009, 08:02 PM

I haven't had a problem with mine going off and I use it on the rear disc brake. What model do you have? I've heard of some models going off for no reason but not totally sure. Well it can be real sensitive, some people have said a slight breeze can set it off and vibrations from other vehicle could also set it off.
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Alex · May 11th, 2009, 08:05 PM

I think that it is a little too sensitive. When I arm it, I lock the thing and push it all the way down so it can't move any more. If it can move the slightest bit, the alarm will go off, and yes, even wind seems to be able to do it. Not sure what would be different between the front disk and rear disk; there still should be a disk sensed by the Xena when it clamps on, right?

capt_bugaloo · May 11th, 2009, 08:06 PM

Well, you can never have too much security. Yes, I agree that full insurance coverage is best... but using a disc lock in addition to other measures is a good idea. A chain might be better, but when you're touring on the open road, lugging around a heavy chain with lock and hoping that you have something to chain the bike to is not a good option.

Flashmonkey · May 11th, 2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I think that it is a little too sensitive. When I arm it, I lock the thing and push it all the way down so it can't move any more. If it can move the slightest bit, the alarm will go off, and yes, even wind seems to be able to do it. Not sure what would be different between the front disk and rear disk; there still should be a disk sensed by the Xena when it clamps on, right?

Yea I think you and Rich are right....i practically have to tip toe away from mine

It's actually kinda annoying hahaha....I wish this thing came with a remote or something.

hzrnbgy · May 12th, 2009, 02:50 AM

mine goes off randomly too whenever i engage it with the rear brake. it has something to do with the distance between the hole where the lock engages and the sensor. The slightest breeze can set it off. Try to position it where the lock wouldnt move unless the bike is moved (i.e. not hanging from the brake)

DarkNinja52 · July 30th, 2009, 09:51 PM

im looking to get teh xx14 but idk after reading this thread. i need some type of security but i have nothing to lock my bike to

May 11th, 2009, 06:40 AM	#1
elude ninjette.org newbie Name: J Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Posts: 8	Xena Alarms If you have a xena alarm for 08 or 09 250R, which one did you get? I just want to make sure I get the right one that fits properly. There are so many models. I went on the website but it does not list our bike so I printed off the pdf document for measuring but it is hard to see. It seems like there are a few that will fit. I'm leaning toward xx14 (fits around disc) or xzz6 (fits in hole of disc). Any good deals for this in Toronto? I saw the other posts on the alarm but no one is responding. Thanks for your help.

May 11th, 2009, 09:50 AM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	There's nothing too unique about our front disks, just about any disk lock will work fine, including just about all of the Xena line. If you think it looks like it will work, it will. I have a Xena (not sure which model, it's yellow if it helps), and the battery life on the alarm is pretty pisspoor. The batteries will drain completely in only 2-3 weeks of use. You can get bulk hearing aid batteries to replace them, but it's such a pain in the neck that I rarely use it. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 11th, 2009, 04:32 PM	#5
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	No, the keys will unlock/lock the disk lock at any time; that has nothing to do with the alarm in the device. When the batteries run out, the alarm just doesn't go off anymore, and the end result is the buyer spent 3 times the price of a standard disk lock with no real benefit anymore. I'm not much of a fan of disk locks anymore anyway. They basically keep the honest folks honest. Any pro (or even semi-pro) who wants your bike will have a friend or two along to throw your bike in the back of a van in < 10 seconds and the bike is gone with or without the disk lock. If you want to lock up the bike, make sure it is physically locked to something solid with a chain that is somewhat resistant to cutting (though decent bolt-cutters will get through almost any consumer chain anyway). IMHO it's a better use of $ to take whatever one would spend on locks and aim it toward appropriate comprehensive insurance coverage. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 11th, 2009, 04:41 PM	#7
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I wouldn't. I don't use it on my streetbikes and don't see it as a real benefit, as I put into my post right above. I do take it with me for trackdays, where I park the trailer right outside my hotel room (hopefully 30 feet or less). My wife laughs at me, because I sleep with the window wide open, even if it's chilly, so I would hear that Xena alarm if someone does start to monkey with the bike on the trailer. I put in new batteries before the trackday season, and only enable it for that one purpose. Before doing this, I did find evidence that someone had tried to cut off the locks on our trailer, and there are a number of folks with sob stories about their bikes being stolen from hotel parking lots near track events. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 11th, 2009, 08:05 PM	#11
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I think that it is a little too sensitive. When I arm it, I lock the thing and push it all the way down so it can't move any more. If it can move the slightest bit, the alarm will go off, and yes, even wind seems to be able to do it. Not sure what would be different between the front disk and rear disk; there still should be a disk sensed by the Xena when it clamps on, right? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 11th, 2009, 02:39 PM	#3
richierich781 Future Hall of Famer Name: rich Location: Tacoma, WA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2010 yamaha fz6r raven Posts: 112	I got the xr1 model. Battery is pain in the neck. I use mine in the rear disc. Fits perfectly. Don't forget a bright color reminder cord. Posted via Mobile Device

May 11th, 2009, 04:22 PM	#4
elude ninjette.org newbie Name: J Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Posts: 8	Thanks for the posts guys. Anyone have xx14? Sounds like the battery dies quickly. So if the battery runs out while you're out then you can't unarm the alarm?!

May 11th, 2009, 04:36 PM	#6
elude ninjette.org newbie Name: J Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Posts: 8	I see what you mean. So would you still recommend buying this product?

May 11th, 2009, 05:08 PM	#8
richierich781 Future Hall of Famer Name: rich Location: Tacoma, WA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2010 yamaha fz6r raven Posts: 112	Like alex said anyone can steal your bike no matter what precaution u take. Having ur bike locked up, just separates the joy riders from the real thieves. the only time I used the xena lock is when I go to work and it is in tandem with a chain hooked up to something immovable. All u these things really do is make theives think twice and move on to an easier target. Posted via Mobile Device

May 11th, 2009, 07:54 PM	#9
Flashmonkey Professional belly dancer Name: James Location: Toronto Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 1992 GSX-R 750 Posts: A lot.	Threadjack Hey do any of you guys run into the problem of the alarm going off for no reason when you put it on the rear disc? I find that whenever i put my freakin Xena on the rear disc, the alarm seems to just go off for whatever reason. What am I doing wrong here? I think its because the sensor doesn't detect the metal disc, but I'm not sure. I just want to see if theres a consensus on the matter. /Threadjack

May 11th, 2009, 08:02 PM	#10
richierich781 Future Hall of Famer Name: rich Location: Tacoma, WA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2010 yamaha fz6r raven Posts: 112	I haven't had a problem with mine going off and I use it on the rear disc brake. What model do you have? I've heard of some models going off for no reason but not totally sure. Well it can be real sensitive, some people have said a slight breeze can set it off and vibrations from other vehicle could also set it off. Posted via Mobile Device

May 11th, 2009, 08:06 PM	#12
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	Well, you can never have too much security. Yes, I agree that full insurance coverage is best... but using a disc lock in addition to other measures is a good idea. A chain might be better, but when you're touring on the open road, lugging around a heavy chain with lock and hoping that you have something to chain the bike to is not a good option. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

May 12th, 2009, 02:50 AM	#14
hzrnbgy ninjette.org member Name: HzrnBgy Location: Hawaii Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Black Ninja 250R, 2004 Yellow Ninja 250R Posts: 111	mine goes off randomly too whenever i engage it with the rear brake. it has something to do with the distance between the hole where the lock engages and the sensor. The slightest breeze can set it off. Try to position it where the lock wouldnt move unless the bike is moved (i.e. not hanging from the brake)

July 30th, 2009, 09:51 PM	#15
DarkNinja52 ninjette.org sage Name: aj Location: New York / PA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 09 Ninja 250r aka Sheila (RIP), Red '10 Ninja 250r aka Sasha (Sold), White '13 Ninja 300 (To be Purchased) Posts: 855	im looking to get teh xx14 but idk after reading this thread. i need some type of security but i have nothing to lock my bike to __________________________________________________

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